A CHALLENGE to Cipher and Bethug (merged with Seanjohn's "apology" thread)

[bethug]

bpb, do you even play?

 

[bpb]

Had you given this response to jonvegas

Why I do what I do at anytime is of absolutely no concern to you or anyone else on this forum or any other forum.

instead of this one

First off, there was not a single question that wasn't thorougly answered.

I would not have pressed the issue. Given the latter response, I thought you were open to responding to the questions posed repeatedly throughout this thread, or that perhaps I had missed those responses. I was mistaken.

bpb, do you even play?

I'm not sure what prompted this question, but I'm happy to answer it. I gamble quite a bit online, and to a lesser extent offline. 99% of the time, I only gamble when I have the best of it (ie my wager has a positive expectation). I have absolutely no problem with people who gamble without having the best of it, its just not something I enjoy.

 

[sw2003]

sw2003, I think you are avoiding the fact that digital watches have existed for at least 30 years. I wasn't specifically talking about YOUR watch.

Whether you buy it or not is your business - but I am not in the habit of talking shit. And nothing Cipher has said so far in this thread says anything about "guaranteed win", "money-back guarantee" , or even "winning system".

A calculator is every bit a computer as your PC is. Just not nearly as powerful, nor does it need to be.

Er.............. I was talking specifically about Kenny Uston and his adventures with small computer, not cipher, bethug, Black21jack's betting system.
Please don't drag me into the betting system mess!

Yes but a calculator only does calculations, in general not capable of making other decisions like a computer could etc. I would have no problem if you said he had an advanced calculator in his shoes which is a very different thing from saying he had a palmpilot in his shoes.

 

[bethug]

bpb, are you up this year? and why do you seem to believe no body doing well? What games to you play, do you flat bet?

 

[sw2003]

There are any of a hundred plus search engines on the Internet and with your advanced technical capabilities I'm sure you're more than capable of running a search on the name KENNY USTON.

No I have not any advanced tech. capabilities! If you do, please do the search and copy a paste any stories or links here! Thanks!

 

[Macgyver]

No I have not any advanced tech. capabilities! If you do, please do the search and copy a paste any stories or links here! Thanks!

Go to www.google.com

Type in "Kenny Uston" (with the quotes) and hit enter.

I got 273 hits, but I'm not posting all those links.

On second thought, here's the top one:

Link Removed ( Old/Invalid)

 

[spearmaster]

Er.............. I was talking specifically about Kenny Uston and his adventures with small computer, not cipher, bethug, Black21jack's betting system.
Please don't drag me into the betting system mess!

Sorry... LOL...

Yes but a calculator only does calculations, in general not capable of making other decisions like a computer could etc. I would have no problem if you said he had an advanced calculator in his shoes which is a very different thing from saying he had a palmpilot in his shoes.

It was not a calculator because it didn't function like a calculator. A calculator is one form of computer, just as a palm pilot is, just as a digital watch is - and the computer in his shoe could not easily be classified as something else.

No point in nitpicking. For all we know he had an advanced form of the Intel Centrino in his shoe. It is clear, however, that the device in his shoe influenced his decision-making process - as far as I am concerned, that's a computer.

 

[bpb]

bpb, are you up this year? and why do you seem to believe no body doing well? What games to you play, do you flat bet?

I'm up quite a bit. And I don't think I've ever said that I don't believe that people are doing well. I only have issues with people who claim to have the best of it when they do not. Many people win when they don't have the best of it in the short term. Some are overall winners in the long term. A few can even be lifetime winners.

I play mostly BJ and its variants (switch, C21, Pontoon). I rarely flat bet, mostly I use positive progression systems. I'm willing to accept high volatility in exchange for shorter session time. The majority of my online gambling is done at the poker tables.

 

[bethug]

bpb, so u do well at playtec, what the most you won at a playtec casino?

 

[bpb]

bpb, so u do well at playtec, what the most you won at a playtec casino?

I posted back to back wins of $1,300 and $450 at Carnival. Overall, I am up about $3,000 at about a dozen Playtech's. I like BJ Switch, but I think C21 at RTG is more interesting/fun.

 

[bethug]

what is your intial depost at playtec?
I am so scared to drop more than 100 in a playtec, the reason i am asking

 

[bpb]

what is your intial depost at playtec?
I am so scared to drop more than 100 in a playtec, the reason i am asking

Between $100 and $300

 

[vgyhnji]

Hi all.

Seanjohn (remember him!) used the wrong tone he has been penalised he has apologised hopefully he will have learnt.

No offence to Cipher but I will pick on him by example only.

Is Cipher genuine

no because he is not willing to prove himself by giving out his system/strategy to the world for free.

yes but to protect his income he is not giving out his system/strategy to the world for free.

Genuine or not Cipher and others like him cannot settle these arguments here.

I have refrained from posting here since earlier in the year for two reasons.

1. Though internet anonymity is a defence for the genuine poster it is also a line of attack for the rogues in us all. I can pretty well post what I like (if I word it correctly) about a.n.other and you can all read it believing it or not.

2. I dont play online during the summer and do not have the time to concentrate on, or contribute to, the forum. I concentrate solely on making money on horse racing using my own system and betting strategy. It is very successful.

Now when I talk to friends and relatives (or just about anyone who is interested in listening to me!) about my success I get a variety of responses from the well done thats great can you do it for me! through to the no way, no-one can make money from gambling, you were just lucky etc. Sounds familiar does it not?

But the principles in the above are all the same in this thread, believe or dont believe (in my case thats my friends and relatives Im talking about nobody in there is at all anonymous but I still dont tell them how my system works!), neither side is going to win. Its a lose, lose situation.

To find out the correct answer..Im going to pull the petals off a daisy, she loves me, she loves me not, she loves me, they make money, they make money not, they ma!!!!!!!!!

 

[DarthVader]

black21jack

I will not post anymore on this. I am, as I write this setting a calendar reminder in my Blackberry for November 29, 2005 to come to this thread and post with how much I have won, how much I have lost, and whether I am still retired doing what I am doing. Until then I say to this thread bye bye.

Hmmm, I waited and waited, but my shuttle couldn't wait any longer. I'm presently STILL trying to get over this wicked New Year's Day bash that was held at the Jawa's Palace (invitation only). Personally, with Luck'N Roll still not paying me, and IG-88 still not having the resources or the connections (fool ), to help him locate their headquarters, I've had it with EARTH's "online" casinos. If black21jack was in fact in retirement mode, I was going to page Bossk to figure-out how to locate his IP address, and send an entire squadron of Biker-Scouts w/AT-ST's waiting for him at his door. Unfortunately, Bossk has yet to complete his training with the alphabet, but I'm patient with him. There are positive signs there... his phonics are fine, it's the consonants that are holding him back (if you can believe it).

To be frank, I also want to retire (and Costa Rica is looking REALLY nice). I can't take it anymore, having to make all the big decisions. I just want to have enough time to finally get around to watching the entire LOTR trilogy. And, I've had it up to here with this frickin' mask. I can hardly breathe in it.



Vader

 

[liquidsoap]

black21jack





Hmmm, I waited and waited, but my shuttle couldn't wait any longer. I'm presently STILL trying to get over this wicked New Year's Day bash that was held at the Jawa's Palace (invitation only). Personally, with Luck'N Roll still not paying me, and IG-88 still not having the resources or the connections (fool ), to help him locate their headquarters, I've had it with EARTH's "online" casinos. If black21jack was in fact in retirement mode, I was going to page Bossk to figure-out how to locate his IP address, and send an entire squadron of Biker-Scouts w/AT-ST's waiting for him at his door. Unfortunately, Bossk has yet to complete his training with the alphabet, but I'm patient with him. There are positive signs there... his phonics are fine, it's the consonants that are holding him back (if you can believe it).

To be frank, I also want to retire (and Costa Rica is looking REALLY nice). I can't take it anymore, having to make all the big decisions. I just want to have enough time to finally get around to watching the entire LOTR trilogy. And, I've had it up to here with this frickin' mask. I can hardly breathe in it.



Vader

my o my you really know how to make my day, thanks