98% rtp on selected Playngo slots.

[JohnSnow]

So does anybody actually know how many different versions of RTP playngo games have for different clients? I mean on caddell casino's for example it's just 96+%, for a lot of others it's 94+% and then you have some clients like 21 casino which don't even show any RTP in the game rules section. Are they not required to show the RTP?

 

[Kroffe]

So does anybody actually know how many different versions of RTP playngo games have for different clients? I mean on caddell casino's for example it's just 96+%, for a lot of others it's 94+% and then you have some clients like 21 casino which don't even show any RTP in the game rules section. Are they not required to show the RTP?

The only versions i have seen are the 96ish% and the 94ish%

Usually the 94% is used when there are jackpots attached to the png slots. So the different jackpots account for the missing 2%, making the total rtp the same. Usually this means you will have to bet over a certain amount, like minimum €2 to get the full rtp, since you wont be able to win the bigger jackpots with bets under €2

Its really a shame casinos are allowed to use the lower version just to increase profits.

 

[JohnSnow]

Take a look at 21.com

They don't even show any RTP in their games.m from playngo. I would assume maybe because it is possibly even lower than the 94% variant?

Doesn't red tiger, blueprint, pragmatic and some other providers have lower RTP versions?

 

[me_and_ed]

Take a look at 21.com

They don't even show any RTP in their games.m from playngo. I would assume maybe because it is possibly even lower than the 94% variant?

Doesn't red tiger, blueprint, pragmatic and some other providers have lower RTP versions?

I have seen Red Tiger as high as 98% and the same game 92%, quite a spread.

 

[JohnSnow]

Lol 92% RTP... I would rather play freaking betsoft games in that case.

 

[Kroffe]

Take a look at 21.com

They don't even show any RTP in their games.m from playngo. I would assume maybe because it is possibly even lower than the 94% variant?

Doesn't red tiger, blueprint, pragmatic and some other providers have lower RTP versions?

I have no idea how many different versions or how much the rtp can differ on those providers.
I tried finding info about it on their websites just now, without being able to find anything related to rtp.

Sent a mail to Red tiger and pragmatic asking them about it.
Maybe they will answer.

Edit: Blueprint dont offer different rtp versions as far as i know. I have the same rtp on their slots at videoslots atleast.

 

[JohnSnow]

From 21 casino. At least he will look into it, can't ask for much more however I did lolled a little bit about he part where he told me to ask this to the provider.

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[bamberfishcake]

Is it Colins Underland Or Col in Sunderland?

No, its Colin Sun Der Land. Shortened from Colins Son from Der Other Mother Land. Hes German and the son of Herr Colin. Nobody knows his real name on here but i think it may be Henrik or Klaus.

 

[Kroffe]

No, its Colin Sun Der Land. Shortened from Colins Son from Der Other Mother Land. Hes German and the son of Herr Colin. Nobody knows his real name on here but i think it may be Henrik or Klaus.

Finally someone is making some sense.
Using this new info, i was able to find a photograph of what i believe is Colin.



This does nothing but raise more questions im afraid.
This picture was taken 1855, and based on his posture and wrinkly forehead, i would guess his age at the time the photo was taken was atleast 23.
This would make the Colin we have here at the forum 187 years old.

So my thoughts are now mixed between time-traveler and vampire.
Or perhaps something even more sinister...

 

[bamberfishcake]

Finally someone is making some sense.
Using this new info, i was able to find a photograph of what i believe is Colin.

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This does nothing but raise more questions im afraid.
This picture was taken 1855, and based on his posture and wrinkly forehead, i would guess his age at the time the photo was taken was atleast 23.
This would make the Colin we have here at the forum 187 years old.

So my thoughts are now mixed between time-traveler and vampire.
Or perhaps something even more sinister...
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I heard its not quite that sinister.

I heard that he is this old as a result of German genetic engineering and experimentation.

The picture you have found is believed to be the result of such.

You see, the man with no name, Son of Colin, Klaus or such, is believed to have been a result of experimentation with Bowhead Whale genetics.

This explains the long life and the forehead anomaly evident in the picture you have found.

 

[Kroffe]

I heard its not quite that sinister.

I heard that he is this old as a result of German genetic engineering and experimentation.

The picture you have found is believed to be the result of such.

You see, the man with no name, Son of Colin, Klaus or such, is believed to have been a result of experimentation with Bowhead Whale genetics.

This explains the long life and the forehead anomaly evident in the picture you have found.

Perhaps we will never know the full truth about who Colin with no name is.
Time-traveling vampire, or the result of german genetic experiments with whale dna.
One thing that i do know is that the forces trying to keep these things secret are vast.
Better men than us have tried and failed to uncover the truth about this world.


(heh, even says his first name top-right corner )

 

[Harry_BKK]

Take a look at 21.com

They don't even show any RTP in their games.m from playngo. I would assume maybe because it is possibly even lower than the 94% variant?

Doesn't red tiger, blueprint, pragmatic and some other providers have lower RTP versions?

AFAIK, the UKGC is requiring to show the RTP in the help file, the MGA doesn't.

The MGA only requires that all games offered at a MGA-licensed casino to be from providers with an MGA licence. Makes sense?

Below is a Play'n GO example for their RTP choices. Only the top 2 are allowed at MGA casinos and I assume it to be the same for the UK.



Other game providers:

- Red Tiger: multiple RTP down to 92.xx %. There is also a separate list if jackpots are included.
- Pragmatic Play: Three choices for the RTP from 94.xx% to 96.xx%

- Blueprint: AFAIK, only one RTP for all regulated online markets. Don't know about B&M.

 

[Kroffe]

AFAIK, the UKGC is requiring to show the RTP in the help file, the MGA doesn't.

The MGA only requires that all games offered at a MGA-licensed casino to be from providers with an MGA licence. Makes sense?

Below is a Play'n GO example for their RTP choices. Only the top 2 are allowed at MGA casinos and I assume it to be the same for the UK.

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Other game providers:

- Red Tiger: multiple RTP down to 92.xx %. There is also a separate list if jackpots are included.
- Pragmatic Play: Three choices for the RTP from 94.xx% to 96.xx%
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- Blueprint: AFAIK, only one RTP for all regulated online markets. Don't know about B&M.

Wow, to think that Png offer as low as 84.5. Thank god only the two highest are allowed.
I noticed there was no 98% there.
Does that mean Png has created new 98% versions for the Unibet-group?

 

[Harry_BKK]

Wow, to think that Png offer as low as 84.5. Thank god only the two highest are allowed.
I noticed there was no 98% there.
Does that mean Png has created new 98% versions for the Unibet-group?

Unfortunately, PnG does not give out details when they do "exclusive versions".

But I would think, it is not that difficult to go the other way with the RTP. Going up or down is not much of a difference in a math formula.

 

[Kroffe]

Unfortunately, PnG does not give out details when they do "exclusive versions".

But I would think, it is not that difficult to go the other way with the RTP. Going up or down is not much of a difference in a math formula.

Would be interesting to see in what way they have increased the rtp.
Like, is the basegame better, are there more 500-1000x wins added etc.

Some of the games on the list are pretty low-volatile on 96%, like super flip, mermaids diamond, golden ticket..
Well really the only high volatile slot there is Raging rex.