888 - don't like the BJ

Pinababy69

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Casinomeister said:
But what I really don't understand is that you are promoting this casino on your site - this doesn't make any sense whatsoever. I don't care if you have a percent of the revenue, a CPA deal, CPM whatever. You promote it - you condone it. Simple as that.

Making malicious comments about them yet condoning them is a bit whacked out in my opinion.

If only all webmasters/affiliates would get this message loud and clear, online gaming would be a whole lot saner and safer.

You promote it, you condone it. Quote of the day. :thumbsup:
 

winbig

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eranluv said:
anyway, the standard deviation of the outcome of that plater (assuming that the 7 wins were straight wins and not black jack) is 2.4
in plain english it is 0.82%.

Which would be even lower assuming no 7 win streak and no 24 loss streak, correct?
 

nikest

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ok here i am back.i did played for hrs on this site. but wat i were getting is totally unbelieveable.as a whole i lost $900.but this streak killed me for $600 .it could be my bad luck.but unfortunately i have never a winning streak like this in my whole history.near some people it might be normal.but winning is always very difficult but loosing is so easy.below is the link with that streak

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winbig

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Just bad luck. I don't see anything out of the ordinary....Most losses in a row before a push/win was 5..
 

AussieDave

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nikest,

As side issue it maybe an idea before venturing into blackjack and dropping these sums of cash, you go learn some basic bj strategies.

This is not a personal dig at you either.
 

nikest

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Trezz said:
nikest,

As side issue it maybe an idea before venturing into blackjack and dropping these sums of cash, you go learn some basic bj strategies.

This is not a personal dig at you either.
can you tell me any hand, which i didnt follow strategy?
 

winbig

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nikest said:
can you tell me any hand, which i didnt follow strategy?

I looked over them and the only one I saw that might have been questionable was #345 - A29(12) vs 2 - hit, not stand. The 2 is just about a wild card for the dealer and will make their point more times than not; and you can improve that 12 more times than not also, unless you're faced with a 4-6.

I think bet management killed you faster than anything.

Other than that, it looked fine. I'm assuming the card to the far left was the one showing for the dealer, correct?

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If anyone disagrees with the 12vs2, just look @
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, it'll confirm you are supposed to hit.
 
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eranluv

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drop it

nikest,

first you said you lost 24 times but looking at the link you provided I see only 22 losses.

second, you did not tell us one of your winnings was on a double bet meaning -more money to you.

taking into account these two new facts I get a standard diviation of 1.94 which means 2.62% assuming you played perfect strategy.

now, you clearly do not have a case here.

eran.
 

AussieDave

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Pinababy69 said:
If only all webmasters/affiliates would get this message loud and clear, online gaming would be a whole lot saner and safer.

You promote it, you condone it. Quote of the day. :thumbsup:

Exactly then players would only have to deal with one evil instead of two.
 

AussieDave

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nikest said:
can you tell me any hand, which i didnt follow strategy?

You interpreted my post wrongly.
I'm no bj expert, but, your up in arms regarding what I'd call a very small sample; one that even should not be considered as a sample at all.

Hence the reasoning that fuelled my suggestion.

From this, I then wonder how much "online bj" you've actually played. With that I start to question if your promoting casinos, especially 888 (played more so for it's table games), I then ask myself how can someone promote a product that they seem to know very little about.

I don't play blackjack that often, but even I know that a mere double low figure sample doesn't prove jack, unless the dealer was pulling 21 on every hand or something really bizarre was taking place.

Although online casinos use RNG’s these are never going to be like playing in r/l at a land based casino.

I don’t know by what means casino developers use to develop their RNG’s. Though I suspect they use quasi logic to generate their base signature. However, the closest your going to get to achieving real life random outcomes is by using a RNG based sig developed through the sampling of a random sound wave.

Anyone have any input on what method is used to develop casino RNG’s?
 

dabruin2

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Having read through this thread, my conclusion is this thread didn't have to be made. First, it's ridiculous that nikest pees on the trough he feeds from. Second, it is gambling because there is no guarantee of winning. Sometimes you hit a ridiculous cold streak, sometimes you hit a tremendous hot streak, especially in the game of blackjack. That being said, you just had bad luck. Had I been you, when I lost my third hand in a row, I would've just walked away and taken a break, instead of sit there and endure punishment.
 

aka23

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nikest said:
hi guys!
this might be my luck, but its very hard to believe. now i know that how can this group be so genoerous in bonuses and signup bonuses. i just lost $600 in about 5 mins playing bj.i played 36 hands.
won hands = 7
push= 5
loose =24

is it a bad luck or a proprietry casino adjusting odds for its favour?
this group definitely deserves its place in the rogue. definitely not to play, not to promote and a bunch of dishonest group.
I just played ~1000 hands of BJ at casino on net while fulfilling a wagering requirment for their "happy hour" promotion. This is large enough to get a decent feel for non-random distribution. While there were some suspicious results, there was nothing too rare to be random. More details results are below:

Expected Return (includes bonuses): +$100.4
Actual Return (includes bonuses): +$88
One SD: 68% chance of being +$10 to +$190
SD range is a crude estimate since my betting size varied from $1 to $4, rather than using a consistent size.

-- Unusual Events --
--Roughly 3/4 of the first 15 dealer aces were a BJ. It was enough for me to buy insurance. This pattern ended in the later 2/3 of the hands. It may just be a coincidence or it may relate to me buying insurance.

--There were several series of 2 or 3 dealer BJs in a row. There is a thread in the bonus complaint section where a player mentions 5 dealer BJs in a row.

--My gain dropped from +$190 to +$88 during the final 20% of the wagering requirement. Until that point, there had not been such a rapid gain or loss.
 
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nikest

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i used to have random results from CON, and used to be my favourite casino. but these days i doubt about there bj game.i emailed there customer support and informed about my loss of $2000 in just 2 days. they added a bonus of $40 in my account. i plyed $5 per hand, and i hardly wagered $100 and my whole bonus of $40 was blown away. just wondering, if any1 has played rexcently blackjack there and wat was the output there?
 
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