777 Dragon Casino - Any of you play here?

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Just for the crack, fancied a little MG action, they have a free play, deposit £25 and get £100 bonus job and 77 free spins too, all most no chance to cash out no doubt, but it will let me have a play for a small investment.

I have deposited and was all ready to go when they tell me on the live chat...

Ramsay: Please note that as it is your first deposit here at the casino your account has to go through a screening process that will take 30-60 minutes.

Never have I ever had this before? what are they doing? stealing my identity?? lol

They are accredited so Im hoping all will be ok :)

Rob
 

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They are a VPL site (vegas patner lounge).
They are 100% reliable, I have had an account there. 24 pending, no weekend cashouts. I take it you've done the 'free play for an hour, keep your winnings up to £100 as a bonus, deposit minimum £25 to get the 100 bonus'......

They have the clearplay bonus system - if you don't touch your 25 cash deposit, the bonus turns to cash in 10% increments. You can w/d the cash balance any time and forfeit the remaining bonus.

They DO specify in their terms that 'sign up bonus can take up to 5hrs. to be credited'......

IF you play before the bonus is credited you will lose it, so don't.

There is nothing untoward here, you are 100% safe. Do not worry.

I have had accounts at ALL VPL sites and other than 32red, I would happily state they are the best MG-only outfit I have played.

Enjoy.:)
 

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Great :) I mentioned Casinomeister and within 30 seconds the bonus was credited and 77 free spins applied :) Thanks for your reassurance of the site.
 

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Great :) I mentioned Casinomeister and within 30 seconds the bonus was credited and 77 free spins applied :) Thanks for your reassurance of the site.

Great, just a word of advice for you as you are new - I'd recommend that unless you joined that site via a Casinomeister-specific bonus offer, that you shouldn't use the CM name to browbeat a casino's CS with.

Hope you make that WR by the way! That will be 3,000 pounds plus 30x whatever your 77 free spins yield btw....:eek:
 

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managed to hit lucky and sat on £500 with £93.40 in the bonus bank. Im playing safe on The High Life now, anything else even lower variance? :) lol
 

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managed to hit lucky and sat on £500 with £93.40 in the bonus bank. Im playing safe on The High Life now, anything else even lower variance? :) lol

Right, this is where you should play the numbers. Your CASH balance is 500 (or 406.60 if the bonus balance is included in that 500).

I would personally FORFEIT the remaining bonus funds and withdraw now!

Then REVERSE 100 OR 93.40 and play with that as a CASH no WR amount from now on.

Don't feel obliged or tempted to turn that remaining bonus amount into cash. In your position that would very likely be a bad move. Up to you though.....
 

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CS have advised my I need to wager the full bonus before a withdrawal request can be made. I was down to my last £4.
 

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CS have advised my I need to wager the full bonus before a withdrawal request can be made. I was down to my last £4.

Yes and no. Under clearplay, you CAN withdraw your cash balance but will lose your remaining bonus funds. Yes, you must wager the full BONUS WR if you want to withdraw that BONUS, but the cash balance should be always withdrawable.

Before you play on, make sure you ask that question - can you w/d your CASH balance and forfeit the bonus?
 

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Lesley: Hi there, how are you doing today?

Me: Lesley :)

Lesley: How may I assist you?

Me: can I forfeit the bonus on my account please

Lesley: Please could you confirm your membership number?

Me: so in order to withdraw the cash balance please

Me: sure

Me: (removed)

Me: I have read under the clearplay bonus system i can withdraw my cash balance and forgo the bonus funds

Lesley: Thank you for the that information Robert.

Me: no problems, thanks

Lesley: I am sorry Robert but only Maple casino you can forfeit the bonus to withdraw the cash balance.

Me: thats the benefit of the clearplay bonus system

Me: surely?

Me: :)

Lesley: What i can do for you since you are on your first initial match you would need to wager then bonus then I could put you on the no bonus list.

Lesley: AS I said only the Maple casino allows you to forfeit the bonus you cannot on the 777 Dragon.
 

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This is an unhelpful confusion as normally the same underlying bonus rules apply to all skins in a brand. I have not come across a difference at this level before in casinos run by the same operator.

Clearplay is already confusing as the system at Maple is how MGS expected it to be implemented, but very few operators have. This means that guidance on how Clearplay works that has been sourced from material published by MGS is only accurate for the minority of casinos that use the original implementation. In most cases, only the tracking element is used so that players can track their progress by how much is left in the bonus balance.

It seems Microgaming failed to properly consult the licensees when designing the original system, and the flaws that resulted were pretty obvious. The other design fail was to make the default weighting for French Roulette 50%, making the game +EV when played with a bonus.

Some operators only insist the sign up bonus is wagered fully, and allow the original Clearplay implementation for the ongoing loyalty boni. This is something worth clarifying with support.

It's also useful to know that Maple DO allow the original Clearplay system to be used for sign up bonuses.

Other than this, it's still 24 hour pending on withdrawals, rather than the 48 hours or more we are seeing elsewhere.


The initial screening process should hopefully minimise players having their winnings confiscated upon withdrawal due to problems with the documents.
 

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What A Waste Time.....

Just popping along to tell you about my experience here.

Decided have a play here but before I did I wanted to check the wager requirements and amount bonus entitled to on the 200%.

I didn't have an account but spoke to live chat. I confirmed if I put £50 in I get £100 bonus and got nod. Deposited £50, no bonus. Asked where it was they said take time to verify details, asked why they never told me that on live chat? Of course if your going offer a trouble free service then sure you would as must have a lot people asking same question.

Now I only get max £50 bonus on £50 deposit. If I knew that I would only put £25 in wouldn't I? Now I'm stuck with £50 in and says cant withdraw with bonus money in..... Want a performance.
 

007sam

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Wish Hadn't Joined Here.....

Well if you want to play quickly and have a problem, dont join here, I wish I hadnt Joined. Now they are asking for all sorts verification and me to sign forms about bank and deposits by credit cards. I will post the forms below, no way am i signing anything, dont mind sending my verification......

This document serves to confirm that I, ____________________________________, the undersigned cardholder, did authorize Proc Cyber Services Inc. / Crazy Commerce / Borth Holdings, to charge my credit card account for the transactions listed above. Further, I confirm that I have received all services due to me in terms of the charges listed.

This document serves to confirm that I, _____________, the undersigned cardholder, did authorize Vegas Partner Lounge and its banking subsidiaries, to charge my credit card account for the transactions listed above. Furthermore, I confirm that I have received all services due to me in terms of the charges listed.

Signature: ___________________

Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.

Sincerely,
Tom Brewing
Verifications Manager
777 Dragon Flash
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Junk

Load garbage casino, my experience was mis- information, no reply on communication, over bearing security checks, rubbish variance on machines, played through money in hour where other casinos last days. Won't be back, definitely will be closing my account..... Avoid
 

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u can forfeit the bonus only if it is not a free bonus with out a deposit or its your first deposit... after when u have a deposit bonus and u win u can forfeit it.. and u can flush it..before players were only able to flush at maples.. recent changes have be done now u can flush on all 9 casinos they have..
 
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