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73% Stats At 3 Dice......Industria......Is It Normal?

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by GGW Laurie, Oct 14, 2009.

    Oct 14, 2009
  1. GGW Laurie

    GGW Laurie Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Self Employed
    Location:
    In the Beautiful South !!
    I played and played at "Slice and Dice" today, over X00.00 in deposits, had 2 rounds on Industria, asked about my stats and was told 73%, now im no math whiz, but that seems like pretty bad stats to me, as someone who plays there daily, i can assure you i have never seen such bad playtime on that one game.

    I would ask that Enzo, please look over those stats and game play and let me know if that is normal or not, i do know at a RTG casino, that would be the pits !!!!!! I was given 10.00 and 25.00 and it played just as bad as well as the 5.00 comps i raked up lol............guess i should be greatful, am i even wrong for bitching, was just going to keep it to myself but wanted to see if anyone else has had this happen.

    I love the staf and the games there but this needs checking into imo, just to ease this loyal players mind and please dont give me the 110% stuff from whenever, im talking about Today Only !!!!!!!!!




    Laurie.............
     
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  3. jelsmith

    jelsmith Zombicidal Maniac PABnononaccred

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    my 30 day stats have been 67% for months at a time. i dont get it either....I have pulled back on deposits there a lot.
     
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  5. denamoutz

    denamoutz Dormant account

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    what do you mean about asking for stats? Is that something anyone can do? I play at 3dice, going on over 3 years now, i am not a high roller, nor do i deposit every day or week, but i never win!!!!! I am about ready to take a break, i play all the free and VIP tournies, and i have a hard time winning!!! I still think casinos can alter the percentages on individual computers!!! I mean if they can allow a certain computer to not log in, its only logic that the casino is able to do this!!!! :confused:
     
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  7. GGW Laurie

    GGW Laurie Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Self Employed
    Location:
    In the Beautiful South !!
    I dont think 3 Dice would or could do that, imo. I never knew about stats till i played at a RTG casino and the manager was very helpful at explaining that my stats that day were the worst he had ever seen, it was 60% something, i guess it can happen on any software. I would ask for your play stats , you need to know if your winning or losing, i only ask when i think the playtime doesnt do the deposits justice..............laurie
     
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  9. sparkles

    sparkles Experienced Member

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    home ex
    Location:
    The bottom of the Garden
    Its yukky Laurie

    I try to not complain either, I had a great hit towards the end of Aug, and boy have I gone down hill since, I think my total game stats are 84% since, and thats a lot of deposits!!!!, would hate to think what tuts is, and I agree, I dont want to know the total % since whenever as I know fullwell it was that one hit that made that %, not to mention the 170,000 spins it took me to get it.
    I just cant see light at the end of the tunnel there now, every single deposit is playing the exact same way.
    I must ask what tuts has been for the day, didnt think of asking on just a day.

    hope your luck gets better Laurie
     
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  11. sparkles

    sparkles Experienced Member

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    not quite

    as bad as laurie 76% on tuts for me, for the past two days, and several deposits, I need to decide why I keep doing it to myself I think lol.

    Tut can be a real Creepola tho, and just when your not looking can throw out something amazing, Im hoping he might do it soon, or Im going to take up knitting and cross stitch
     
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  13. just play

    just play closed account

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    Director of Home Operations
    Location:
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    cross stitch is great! I do it to relax, it really helps, can't get the hang of knitting, though I can crochet. :rolleyes:


    I don't think your wrong for posting your feelings. I made 6 small deposits within the last few weeks and for $25 it lasts (and I'm not lying) 10 minutes. That would NEVER happen at a MG casino, RTG yes. I don't buy the whole "high variance" thing, but that's just me.

    I'm thinking of taking a break from online gambling, it's just not worth it anymore, and I am one who is happy with just a few hundred, I'm not looking for a few thousand.

    Wii is more fun anyway :D
     
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  15. LaHutti

    LaHutti Sr. ÜberUnter Ass. Man. webby PABnonaccred PABaccred

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    I have to say ....it does happen at mg, RTG, and most certainly Rival AND any other software. I've seen it in all of them.
    Had a decent run at 3Dice myself about a week ago (not great, considering my deposits up to it, but a decent fun day, where I got to actually play for a while, and cash out some), and since then...down down down. Seems like any and all bonus rounds are "disabled" for me now.
    Think I'll take a break for now, at least until they get Freddy's wins back....it takes a lot of $25 deposits to cover 2 X $12000 wins in a day ...lol.
     
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  17. jas2587

    jas2587 Ueber Meister

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    hey Bitch away but as you all flush your money into that money pit remember 1 thing

    They have great Customer Support an Chat an Free tourneys to keep you sucked in I mean for your playing pleasure:what:

    "Slice and Dice"
    Cindy:)
     
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  19. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

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    Havent played the Industria game for ages but if I remember correctly this is supposed to be a low-medium variance slot if you also wager on the 'colour theme' part. (Sorry cant recall what the name of that was). A 73% return on a low variance slot over a multitude of spins is quite pathetic IMO.
     
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  21. GGW Laurie

    GGW Laurie Dormant account

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    Well i had to do it, i put in 10.00 no more no less and low and behold hit a total of 90 spins on industria, ended up cashing out 75.00, guess its better to spend 10.00 vs.xxx.xx and bet lower, it still seems strange that i couldnt hit crap on that game earlier but put in a tenner and got some decent hits, even hit a few features on another game.................i would say my stats on that deposit was over 110%::confused:............go figure lol..............laurie
     
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  23. jas2587

    jas2587 Ueber Meister

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    gee could it be you posted about your run of bad luck an a miracle happened an you won a tiny sum hmmmmmm:confused: havent ya noticed a person complains in forum then they make a deposit later an bada bing they win its a miracle

    Glad you could recoup a tad smacks ya tooo :D

    Thanked 4,294,967,295 Times in 1,555 Posts you got that crappy thanks count too :D

    Cindy:rolleyes:
     
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  25. RobWin

    RobWin closed account

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    LOL Cindy...too funny! :lolup:
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  27. sparkles

    sparkles Experienced Member

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    hehe

    being the prize moron I am, thought hmmm, maybe id have a wee go too, afterall I complained a little as well, nah not a bean, all Ive managed to do put my % even lower, now where are those knitting needles...

    Glad you managed to have a better play Laurie!
     
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  29. 3Dice

    3Dice I-Gaming Industry Representative

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    Hi Laurie,

    First off, I'm well aware that winning is a lot more fun than losing, and I can relate to the emotions involved in a scenario like this. It's no fun when lady luck is not on your side, but alas it is part of the game, and the number 1 rule that always needs to be kept in mind is to stop before the emotional or financial situation gets the best of you - it is key to keeping things fun !

    When asking for day stats (or more mathematically formulated stats for a couple of hundred of spins), virtually any result is statistically normal. You should expect numbers ranging anywhere from 50% to 150% on small samples like that. For example, you had 140% on happy valley yesterday, or about 45% over expected rtp, which is more 'off' than your result on industria in the same time range, 20% below expected rtp.

    A single losing spin always has an RTP of 0% and all of the screenshots in the winner thread, as single spin have an RTP of over 10.000% .. Small samples simply cant be used to describe a game, tho they're not entirely meaningless, they tell you what happened in that particular session. For example from your stats yesterday we can tell you were lucky on happy valley, and unlucky on industria. It doesn't describe anything apart from your luck in that session. (just as the 0% for a single spin describes a bummer spin and the 10000% describes a screenshot worthy of the winnerthread.)

    In fact, the number of samples needed to get a good feeling over any particular game are so mind-blowing high that it takes a long long time for a single player to put in that many spins. And that's a good thing. It means that even after 100's of thousands of spins, you can still be ahead of the casino. (e.g. you have nearly 100.000 spins on squirrelpike lifetime, with an average RTP of almost 102%, or close to 7% over the expected RTP). Your lifetime return on industria is spot on expectations (~95%), with a number of spins in the same range as your squirrel. Both of these games need millions (!) of spins to arrive at the theoretical RTP with reliable certainty, so they can both still go either way. A year from now, your lifetime squirrel could be 95 and industria 105 and that would still be perfectly within statistical expectations.

    All that is needed to turn a session like your industria yesterday around is a couple of bonus rounds. If in one of your next sessions lady luck is on your side and you get a few good bonuses then you'll have a session 20% over RTP that would balance this one out. It's just the way the cookie crumbles.

    I'm rooting for you Laurie!

    Kindest regards,

    Enzo
     
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  31. GGW Laurie

    GGW Laurie Dormant account

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    Poor Lady Luck

    Did you hear what happened to her?

    Well it seems poor Lady Luck just got disgusted with her role in online gaming, seems others were trying to micromanage her too much, so last word is she just gave up and the poor old bitch went south and is now running around the streets of San Jose, Costa Rica, just begging for any job , even at Virtual:eek::D. If anyone spots her, please tell her she is needed back on Casinomeister and that we miss her;)....................laurie
     
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  33. anniemac

    anniemac Ueber Meister MM PABnoaccred

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