5 UK Casinos Could Lose License

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I have a theory for at least 1 of them, that I won't name here, but I'm worried the one I'm thinking of will have passed under the radar of anyone willing to look.
 

nikantw

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I think I saw this or an identical article in another thread .....

Anyway, I have concerns about this AML and RG efforts. I consider UKGC one of the best GC globally (quite frankly I am afraid the online market will never truly open in EU without UK defending it).

My concerns are that the way it is done it is actually making things worst! Because fast payments and high RTP are very important and nobody cares about them.

How is AML done? By delaying payment. How is RG done? By delaying payment. Ok, maybe they will also stop some deposits, but is that going to cure addiction? More likely it will make players go to unsafe and illegal gambling.

Fast and unlimited payments help manage your balance (and your addiction) in the best possible way. AML, the way it is now or even stricter is definitely delaying payments, costing players a lot of money and causing addiction.

For example, lets say I win big. AML and KYC will immediately kick in and delay the payment. If I can't manage my gambling I may not wait, reverse and lose it all. Emotional reaction to the big loss leads to uncontrolled gambling, financial, personal and maybe legal problems and addiction. You won't see any study about that, mostly because everybody loves money. Governments love money, politicians love money, gambling industry loves money. :cool:

I don't blame all of them. Some just don't know any better. Someone has to say something so I say it and hopefully someone important will listen.
 
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SpinUk

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I have worked alongside corporate KYC and anti money laundering departments for many years, but i’m struggling to see how an online casino offers an attractive money laundering proposition.

The placement/layering/integration cycle of money laundering gets stumped by the layering side as casinos generally only allow you to withdraw to your depositing method- or am I missing something?
 

Naok777

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The placement/layering/integration cycle of money laundering gets stumped by the layering side as casinos generally only allow you to withdraw to your depositing method- or am I missing something?

You need to have a certain ratio of legit vs non legit transactions to reduce the risk of being caught, gambling allows you to inflate the quantity of legit transactions to an effectively infinite degree (deposit lets say 1k, play through deposit once or twice, then withdraw, rinse repeat).
Also with casinos that pay you from abroad it allows you to establish a track record of legitimate incoming foreign transactions with your bank.
 

colinsunderland

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There is never a genuine reason for AML measures being put into place only on withdrawal. I've brought this up on numerous other threads, and not a single rep has replied to say why it would be done on withdrawal as opposed to deposit, even when asked directly. Dan even said the law prevented him commenting on it, which it doesn't. That was proven by the fact he refused to say which law he was referring to.
 

RichyJ75

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Well, looks like the chances of me ever getting my withdrawal from this group have taken a turn for the worse! UK now blacklisted. I am waiting for a reply from UKGC for their input about them confiscating my withdrawal, then start looking at the legal route and contacting the MGA. They still haven't responded on the AskGamblers complaint.

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colinsunderland

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Well, looks like the chances of me ever getting my withdrawal from this group have taken a turn for the worse! UK now blacklisted. I am waiting for a reply from UKGC for their input about them confiscating my withdrawal, then start looking at the legal route and contacting the MGA. They still haven't responded on the AskGamblers complaint.

They are part of tabcorp, UK license is still active and are part of the group that run sunbet, which are defo not pulling out the UK. I don't get that message when I go on the site either so thats slightly weird. Have you posted about your problem as I don't know whats gone on?
 

RichyJ75

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They are part of tabcorp, UK license is still active and are part of the group that run sunbet, which are defo not pulling out the UK. I don't get that message when I go on the site either so thats slightly weird. Have you posted about your problem as I don't know whats gone on?


No, they are part of Viral Interactive. I guess you clicked on the licence link on bottom of page? If so, it takes you through to the wrong licence and company!! You need to do a manual search on the GC website to find them.
 

RichyJ75

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Have you posted about your problem as I don't know whats gone on?

I did mention it briefly in a couple of threads, but it stems from a 2,400x win which I initially posted in the 1000x winners screenshots page. I will probably do a thread all by itself at some point as it does make interesting reading, but more concerned with progressing it through the UKGC at the moment to hopefully give a clearer picture when I do post it up.
 

colinsunderland

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No, they are part of Viral Interactive. I guess you clicked on the licence link on bottom of page? If so, it takes you through to the wrong licence and company!! You need to do a manual search on the GC website to find them.
Ah yes, sorry, in my defence I'm doing 4 things at once and only quickly looked at it :)
I can't even get the site to load now!
 

JohnKris

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I hope they could announce those 5 companies if they really have a criminal activity like money-laundering.
 

maxd

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I did mention it briefly in a couple of threads...

Hello, Max Drayman here. I handle the Complaints side of things at Casinomeister.com including the PABs.

I have received your PAB regarding Mobo. Please ensure that you have read the PAB FAQ with particular attention to section 3.12.

Please also note that there are errors in your PAB Ticket that require your attention before I can proceed with your PAB. You will have received an Alert on this (see below).

Thank you for your cooperation.

Regards,
Max

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Valerius

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No, they are part of Viral Interactive. I guess you clicked on the licence link on bottom of page? If so, it takes you through to the wrong licence and company!! You need to do a manual search on the GC website to find them.


They can also say this blacklisting is a ‘mistake’, sometimes your country is included and sometimes it’s excluded over there:lolup:
 
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