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3Dice Wagering Requirements On Tourny Wins...

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by X-Raided, Sep 1, 2010.

    Sep 1, 2010
  1. X-Raided

    X-Raided I'm Beetlejuice Baby! PABinit

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    IMO, wagering requirements on on tourney wins doesn't
    sit too well with me.

    Bottom line is, it's super hard to win much at 3Dice off of $10.00,
    let alone 10X WR = $100, if you did make it into $50 and wanted to
    withdraw.

    A win is a win. It should have no strings attached to it. It's like winning
    a gold medal at the Olympics with a 10 pound weight hanging from it
    that cannot be removed until you wear it around your neck
    and run 10 more laps around the track... (weak metaphor):oops:.

    Bonuses are okay to have WR, but not tourney wins.

    Other than that, keep up the great work 3Dice, probably the most
    interesting online casino to date.
     
  2. Sep 1, 2010
  3. blacklabrador

    blacklabrador Banned User - chargebacks - multiple banned forum

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    I learned my lesson at 3dice. Lesson is........no matter how quick the payouts and how wonderful customer service is, if the slots are some of the worst paying percentage wise on the net, play elsewhere.

    Cashed out $590 the FIRST deposit and I would say 15 deposits later, nothing. Nada, zip, zero, zilch. And I am one to cash out a couple hundred bucks too so its not like there was an oppurtunity to do so. If they loosened up over there a little, I would probably stick with a bit longer but my god:eek2:
     
  4. Sep 1, 2010
  5. darkpixie

    darkpixie Senior Member

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    I disagree, free tourney wins are just that FREE MONEY.
    I don't know of any casino that hands out hundreds a day in free money, there's always gonna be some WR attached and rightly so. Yes its hard to turn $10 into anything, but its not impossible. I myself turned it into $100 and cashed out, in hindsight I should have kept going as I was on a winning streak :)

    If there wasn't WR attached I doubt 3dice would be able to offer so many tournaments.
     
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  6. Sep 1, 2010
  7. X-Raided

    X-Raided I'm Beetlejuice Baby! PABinit

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    Thanks for the life lesson BlackLabrador, but what you said has nothing to
    do with tourneys and the wager requirements for winners. I have been frustrated there too but... "ya win some, ya lose some".
     
  8. Sep 1, 2010
  9. X-Raided

    X-Raided I'm Beetlejuice Baby! PABinit

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    Fair enough, darkpixie, but don't you think 10X is a little high on $10.
     
  10. Sep 1, 2010
  11. darkpixie

    darkpixie Senior Member

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    Find me a better WR at any other casino on the net on a $10 No Deposit bonus and you may have a point, however I've been around the block a few times and 10X is nothing
     
  12. Sep 1, 2010
  13. X-Raided

    X-Raided I'm Beetlejuice Baby! PABinit

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    Thanks darkpixie.

    We're not discussing "no deposit bonuses".
    I sincerely believe that ND bonuses shouldn't be on the
    same level as tourney wins.

    We'll agree to disagree then.
    As a depositing player, a tourney win should be
    $10 or whatever the prize is with no WR.

    As a free tourney "abuser" (for lack of better term, meaning someone
    who never deposits and plays tourneys only) should have a WR if he/she
    wins.
     
  14. Sep 1, 2010
  15. darkpixie

    darkpixie Senior Member

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    I understand that as a depositing player you feel you shouldn't have to wager, however the majority of tournaments are VIP anyways and not available to players who do not deposit. So that is an advantage right there. If you are worried about making playthrough, save up your tourney wins until you have a more reasonable bank roll. Might be a way to hedge yer bets and make that playthrough!
     
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  16. Sep 1, 2010
  17. Jasminebed

    Jasminebed Closer to 100 than Birth

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    Only the free tournaments have a WR, all of the buy-ins have no WR attached. Often players are generous and sponsor tournaments, none of those have WR either.

    While I don't often meet the WR, I have, and some players have cashed out very large amounts.

    Part of the thrill at 3Dice is the high variance, but hitting those big wins off of small bets. If you get a $50 hit, you probably can make the WR and still have some money left.

    Also, don't forget that all games are allowed, they just contribute differently to the WR. So if you want to go play VP you may, and then switch to slots to complete your wagering.

    10x is a very modest wagering requirement, and I love having all the free tournaments to play. There is also no max cashouts on any of them.
     
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  18. Sep 1, 2010
  19. X-Raided

    X-Raided I'm Beetlejuice Baby! PABinit

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    I would definitely agree with you. I did fail to realize that you are not
    bonded to only playing slots like RTG. Also, the fact that there is no
    max withdraw is a plus.

    On a side note, I play the VIP tourneys and not really the $20 peak no gamble
    tourneys. Isn't the VIP $10 one winner tourneys for depositing players only?

    That is where the line should be drawn. $10.00 prize to VIP tourney players, no WR.
     
  20. Sep 1, 2010
  21. rockycatt

    rockycatt meistercatt CAG MM

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    ok i gotta say this 85% of the time i play at dice at some time in the session
    im up over my seed money by 1,2,or3 x im mostly a 25.00 depositor so at 75.00 im up net 200% weather i cash it or not means nothing

    were you gonna play that pays out better

    i got all the screen shots in my profile to prove it ill leave it open for all to look if its possible i dont want to overload CM with my SS

    so whats it gonna be a honest casino or a promise in the wind

    respectfully rockycatt
     
  22. Sep 1, 2010
  23. darkpixie

    darkpixie Senior Member

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    Ok, look at it this way. 3Dice offers probably 20-30 VIP tourneys a day.
    So let use $250 in tourney wins a day.
    So if they pay out $250 a day with no wagering requirements, they find themselves potentially losing $91,250 per 365 day year.
    Where will that money come from?
     
  24. Sep 1, 2010
  25. X-Raided

    X-Raided I'm Beetlejuice Baby! PABinit

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    You have a good point.

    I guess that's all contingent on the number of depositors and players that
    3Dice currently has.

    If the only real depositors is those that are active on the chat rooms, than
    100K a year in free money would not be tangible.

    So, how many current players and depositors does 3Dice have? I don't think
    we will ever know in the near future.

    On a side note, $250 a day? Okay. I would take 10 free tourneys a day, every hour or so
    for VIP depositors only, with tourney wins at no WR.
    That's a $37,000 a year hit for 3Dice. Also, keep in mind the amount of winners who would probably lose the winnings back...

    And the no WR wins are geared towards DEPOSITING players only.
     
  26. Sep 1, 2010
  27. BMWSTACK

    BMWSTACK Ueber Meister

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    I am a depositing player , Very large depositor so large that, i pay for the upkeep of the tourney server, and I pay the employees that monitor the chat, put on the tourneys, and put the wins in your account all through my deposits, you get the picture you are all very welcome.
    I rarely play the tourney because $10 just doesnt cut it for me. But if i was I certainly wouldnt be complaining about WR, especially at the low WR they put on it. ITS FREE MONEY.
    Sorry to say this but honestly I wish they would eliminate or slow dow on the # of tourney, because I believe it takes away from people playing for real. I play at Medium to Large stakes and have a tough time winning. And when you lose as much as I do I always wonder how i could ever win big when there are so may small bets going on. Now I have hit big once but it still does not get me close to what I have lost.
    So in conclusion 3dice is a force in the business. They are friendly and pay quick. Their platform is unique. I would hope they would continue to grow rapidly so there is more money to go around. So please support 3dice, get off the free tourneys, stop going there to make friends in chat, and please please please deposit so I can get a nice hit.
     
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  28. Sep 1, 2010
  29. darkpixie

    darkpixie Senior Member

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    I would trade in higher wagering requirements on tourney wins for looser slots any day of the week :)
     
  30. Sep 1, 2010
  31. X-Raided

    X-Raided I'm Beetlejuice Baby! PABinit

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    I'd have to agree with you on that and add any day of this decade.
     
  32. Sep 1, 2010
  33. BMWSTACK

    BMWSTACK Ueber Meister

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    Thats great you win all the time. I wish I could say the same. I am the opposite 85% of the time I cant get it above my starting balance. I wish i could get my balance above 2x or 3x starting point 85% of the time. I would be rich. I would definetely keep playing there too. Actually I still play there, just wish it would turn for me.
     
  34. Sep 1, 2010
  35. just play

    just play closed account

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    USA
    If you want to hit and aren't hitting at 3Dice, then change casinos. Like I said earlier, the reason so many people like 3Dice is because of the chat. Personally, I never really chatted when I was there, and didn't care for people getting to play tourneys and winning money while I was depositing either...I wasn't a huge depositer, but I'm sure I deposited more than many in chat.

    I do not play there anymore, closed account, but I think if you aren't joking (I'm not sure) then 3Dice probably isn't the casino for you.
     
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  36. Sep 2, 2010
  37. BMWSTACK

    BMWSTACK Ueber Meister

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    Well duh of course small bets are because of someones bankroll. I never criticized betting small. The more the merrier.
    Its a casino, the true meaning of 3dice isnt chatting and making friends, its an added feature, an addition, something different than other casinos. If the true meaning was chat it would be called 3CHAT with a casino addition inside.
    Thanks for the advice of changing casinos, what are you my mom? Now if I do find out the true meaning of 3dice is chat and not casino I will take your advice of closing my account under heavy consideration.
     
    Last edited: Sep 2, 2010
  38. Sep 2, 2010
  39. just play

    just play closed account

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    What the hell are you talking about? I said I closed MY ACCOUNT...I never gave you advice to close yours???

    I said maybe 3Dice isn't the casino for you. :rolleyes:

    The chat is their "catch" make friends with people, have support team laugh and joke around with you, it makes people feel like a community, make them feel good that they are chatting with the support team, no other casino does this that I am aware of...I'm surprised you don't see that.
     

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