3Dice Poll Part 2- New bonus program.

The new 3dice referal program... compared to the old.


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mysticjoz

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Ok ... sorry everyone. this will be a two part poll.
one for referral bonuses and one for the new bonus program they offer. and like I said, I will explain why.

We all know 3dice has implemented a new bonus program.
Can we see how we feel about how it compares to the old bonus program? (and the old poll).. please.

thank you to all who participate.

I believe you can answer more than one question! again thanks everyone :thumbsup:
 

mysticjoz

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Hi Anniemac and thank you!

Ok.. Besides it being time to compare a new poll to the old poll to see where we stand. And with all the rising frustration of players regarding thier "bad luck streak" This is one of the reasons why I have asked for everyone elses input.

I pm'd enzo last night/this morning. about this "new system" where they say "there will always be something at the cashier for you" .. Oh really?
(I am still waiting to hear back from Enzo)
I saw 100% bonus match & also saw $25 scratch card at the cashier but no way to claim it. I made a deposit and went to live chat. I was told that the 100% deposit bonus was already claimed (I am curious how long ago that was!!, that's ok. I am sure I got it) BUT..
I was told that i did not "qualify for the $25 scratchcard because I claimed my gg POINT CONVERSION" :eek: Since I never received the "newsletter" stating this was the case and you could not convert your points AND get the scratchcard Anna was gracious enough to "leave my $25 scratchcard at the cashier" I was SO excited and thankful (no deposit match or deposit bonus, that's ok, I guess we get one a month??)
you can no longer claim comps for a dollar amount when you deposit instead of saving them up now you have NO choice but to save them up until you reach 500! (We were informed that the high roller claim at gg is gone but you can not convert your gg points after waiting your month, depositing $50 the prior month, getting your gg points up to at least 1,999 to convert AND get a scratchcard. It is one or the other.

Here is the kicker... This is their idea of a $25 scratchcard. (I played my deposit and saved this "$25 scratchcard for "in case" I lost my deposit..
which of course after no bonus rounds at any slot. I lost it. I went to the cashier, claimed my "scratchcard" and this is what I got.

Excuse me for being frustrated.. again. But I consider a scratchcard a game of "chance and luck" also... I could see if I had to scratch 2 of 3 or 4 spots.. but you have 2 spots and have to scratch them both and you get this.

I am curious as to everyone elses results, opinions and comments!
thanks everyone... here is MY scratchcard!
 

GGW Laurie

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i still dont understand it all, but ill just go with the flow as some like the new way and imo i liked the old way better, i think it will get better in the long run..and mystic i always get the same as you on the scratch offs:eek:.laurie
 

lauram

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So if we take the bonus out you dont get the scratch card on the 21st of july is this how it works. Since i got ewallet working for me i have done few deposits weekly and cashed out few times. I had noticed last week i was at bonze level with 5 stars made 2 more deposits and 2 cashouts then i went to 4 stars in bronze so im not sure how the bonuses works also.
 

mysticjoz

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3dice bonuses, stars, ??? confusion

So if we take the bonus out you dont get the scratch card on the 21st of july is this how it works. Since i got ewallet working for me i have done few deposits weekly and cashed out few times. I had noticed last week i was at bonze level with 5 stars made 2 more deposits and 2 cashouts then i went to 4 stars in bronze so im not sure how the bonuses works also.
What I was told was...and I DO quote chat...

"yes it is a bit different..you will have to choose between claiming the GG and our loyalty program...:) "
" if you will not claim your GG bonus...you will get for silver one star 100% and 50% match bonuses totalling up to $ 45 and $ 25 in scratch cards."
"if you do claim the GG bonus...you will only get the 100% match bonus
up to $ 30" and the GG conversion off course:)

I know I made 1 $20 w/d because my balance was decreasing really fast on minimum bets and apparently that counts against your "stars" ?? I think. :confused:

I am confused as to how it works also!

I was under the impression by what I was told that "a newsletter" went out with all this information.!! (I had a problem with the email provider I had switched to and switched back to my previous email provider, I thought MY "3dice newsletter" was sent to the problem email address! therefore I never got it):confused:

Did a 3dice newsletter go out???
 
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lauram

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I never got a news letter either. So thats how it works if you cashout then you lose a star that would sound right as i gain them and then next deposit i seem to be able to cash out then im one less.
 

mysticjoz

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I never got a news letter either. So thats how it works if you cashout then you lose a star that would sound right as i gain them and then next deposit i seem to be able to cash out then im one less.
guess that should have been on the poll! darn.... :rolleyes:

Oh and everyone, if you did not know.. the last poll showed...A whopping 43.75% of players did not even know there was a "weekly online surprise bonus" and only 3 players of the 32 who voted had been chosen for the "weekly online surprise bonus"
 

pacers31

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I am disappointed with this new bonus system as well. It used to be that after a few losing sessions, there would be a no WR manager bonus in the cashier section for $25-50 or so. Since the new system was put in place, I have only received one $25 bonus and only because I emailed with feedback about my feelings about the new bonus. I rarely use the deposit bonuses anyway, but things sure have become confused over at 3D with this thing. Also, what good is a scratch card, I mean I guess it gives you a "chance" to get a little something, but not really a bonus if you have to "work" for it. I would go along with this if the amount were more like $50, because I think we all have experienced just how far $25 goes at 3Dice! I hope that Enzo and Co. either revert back to the old system, or scrap this and start over. Trial and error, I know.
 

lauram

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From the few threads i have read if you take out their bonus at the first of the month is it that you dont get the scratch card on the 21st.
 

tim5ny

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3Dice personnel give away alot of comps to the regular players so it's pretty hard to complain. . I liked getting 20% on every deposit with the original setup.
 

mysticjoz

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3Dice personnel give away alot of comps to the regular players so it's pretty hard to complain. . I liked getting 20% on every deposit with the original setup.
They do? I am a regular depositing player and I don't get much to brag about, I guess Enzo doesn't love me anymore. :rolleyes:

I hope enzo and 3dice know I don't do any "poll" to try to make them look bad or anything like that. If you look at it, you would think it would be this kind of customer input they would want. :)
After all as enzo said ..
3Dice's loyalty system is on the verge of getting an update, switching to a very transparent and visible solution that will give all of our players a clear view on where they find themselves and why. The focus of this new system will however remain the same as it is today and that is to provide in a reward system that is fair to all our loyal players, independant of whether or not they are high-rollers.

The VIP status at 3Dice is an easy to reach status and is aimed at providing in fun perks like many more free tourney's for all our depositing players. It works back in time for a one month period and even the lowest rolling players can easily reach the status of VIP. The focus here is on entertainment, and making sure that all the players that are looking for fun and excitement can find exactly that at any time they want.

It is not an easy task to setup a system that is both fair and transparent as publishing the numbers makes it difficult to update the system when time proves that updates are needed to keep the balance. We hope that our new system is up to the job, and it's one update I'm looking forward to
this can be read in whole here http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/online-casinos/23229-question-online-casinos-reps-mngrs-4.html#post222390

Personally I am having a hard time with it. I don't think it is "transparent" or "visible".
 

mysticjoz

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So far, results compared to last jan/feb poll...

This past Jan/Feb the Poll Results for the 3Dice Referal and "Weekly Surprise Bonus" Poll was

I have not played at 3dice so this does not affect me. 4 12.50%
I have played but never referred anyone. 19 59.38%
I have made referals and DID receive my "referal bonus" WITHOUT asking for it 0 0%
I have made referals and DID receive my "referal bonus" But I had to ASK Support 2 6.25%
I have referred friends but never received anything because they DID NOT deposit 1 3.13%
I have referred friends but never received anything for it & they DID deposit) 1 3.13%
YES! I have been chosen for the "Weekly online surprise bonus" 3 9.38%
No, I have never been chosen for the "Weekly online surprise bonus" 8 25.00%
What??!! I did not know the weekly online surprise bonus existed. 14 43.75%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 32.
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This months results for that "weekly online surprise bonus" is... identical :eek:
YES! I have been chosen for the "Weekly online surprise bonus" 3 9.38%
No, I have never been chosen for the "Weekly online surprise bonus" 8 25.00%
What??!! I did not know the weekly online surprise bonus existed. 14 43.75%
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Since there were only 3 weekly online surprise bonus winners in jan/Feb. and this poll shows the same exact result.. 3 Are these the same 3 who answered yes in Feb??:confused: I am assuming "yes"
If you did answer yes to this, would you please PM me, I don't care that I am not chosen.. but I don't like to see any online casino play games with us in that way. This is a "bonus" which should have results printed in a newsletter and distributed to ALL members of 3dice, and IMHO It should have been all along. I think we are entitled to know who those winners are.. whether by alias or what ever (how about member # if they want to remain anonymous?)
These results are beginning to make me worry.. I pm'd enzo on the 18th regarding this new bonus system PRIOR to starting this poll and to date I have not recieved a reply..
From the looks of this poll (so far).. the only ones enjoying the new bonus system are high rollers (or maybe big depositors).. I have read in the other thread about 1 person winning on the scratch card.:confused:
So it seems (and enzo you may want to listen to this one) The percentage of "satisfied" players at 3dice has drastically dropped and this may very well be due to the new bonus system. If so, I would think they would want to rectify it.
I did not make this poll to start trouble. It was more curiousity, but I do know that I am not depositting much there anymore. maybe 10 bucks a week .. which surely doesn't make me eligible for any gg high roller bonus now does it?! :rolleyes:
 
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luckydawg

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I guess we would have to assume that the only players 3dice has is casino meister members. I would assume thats not the case.
 

marie874

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Hi

I think that is great that people can be anonyme in wins. That is why i love 3Dice. Other places the names is shown and maybe it is no good for them that everyone can see. Sorry if my English is bad. I want to say so much more but it is difficult for me to say it in English.
I have seen many winning in 3Dice and if they want to tell us that they won they do if not thats ok. Ok that was my try to say what i mean :) gl all
 

SlotKing

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Senses of entitlement

OK...

I kinda waited to chime in on this because I wanted to see what everyone else's thoughts on this were, but now that I have seen them, I feel like I have to jump in..

It seems a lot of people (not just posters in here, but some in chat, at other forums, etc..) seem to have a sense of entitlement from 3Dice. They think that since they lost, well, they should get something for it...

YOU ALREADY ARE!!

That EXACT play style (playing and losing, with a few wins thrown in) is the EXACT sort of thing 3Dice was thinking of when doing this whole new system. The more you play (on your OWN money), the more bonuses you would get... and the less you play (again, on your OWN money), the less bonuses you would get. It seems to me that some people think that since they lost, they should be IMMEDIATELY comped for their losses and allowed to play on the house's money every time they lose.

THIS IS NOT HOW A CASINO STAYS IN BUSINESS!

Loyalty programs are REWARDS to the player for coming back often and DEPOSITING their funds to have a good time. Any business looks for ways to reward its LOYAL customers. Casinos do it with bonuses, Stores do it with sales, etc.... With a casino, however, since a lot of people think that they have "all the money in the world" they seem to think that "well, I lost... so if I complain, I'll get a bonus.." If you stop to think about it, you have already gotten the "bonus" - TWICE in this case - once as in a higher amount of comp points, and second as a "step" up to a higher level.

If you win, great!! But if you ask me, if you do eventually end up winning, you shouldn't get a THIRD bonus for it... your level should now start to go down... which it now does... But if you go on another losing streak again, it is not that hard to build it back up again.

On the other hand, for those who seem to be on a losing streak, this program helps you out by giving you extra "incentive" to deposit and work your way up to eventually help you attain your goal of a big win.

As for no-deposit bonuses.... I myself do not like them. They are an awesome tool for a casino to use SPARINGLY to attract new players and keep ones who seem to be on a LONG losing streak. I am guilty of accepting them, I will admit... but I don't PERSONALLY think that they should be given out, except for maybe once in a great while, or on a special occasion. It just seems odd to me that some people seem to think that every time they lose, they should be entitled to one.

I said it before and I'll say it again... THIS IS NOT HOW A CASINO STAYS IN BUSINESS.

3Dice's program is a HELL of a lot better than ANY program at MG, RTG or anywhere else (even a LAND-BASED casino)... where else can you get a bonus up to 3 TIMES A MONTH for simply doing what you love? Where else does someone give you a CHANCE to win FREE MONEY? Where else rewards you with NO-DEPOSIT bonuses for higher VIP levels?

I can't think of any.... can you?

And for anyone who plays the lottery.... you know exactly what a scratch card is... it's a CHANCE to win something... not a GUARANTEE. 3Dice's is exactly that - a CHANCE.... but there's a slight difference in this case - IT IS FREE! Yes... you have to be a VIP level of Bronze 3* or higher, but once again, I'll say the keyword....

F R E E !! !! !!

There is not one single state lottery in the country that will give you a scratch ticket for free just because you played a lot of them before. It doesn't work that way.

I have liked this program ever since its introduction. I understand that some others may not agree with me, and some vehemently, but you need to understand.... a loyalty program is for customers who are..... say it with me now....

LOYAL!


PS - These views are mine and mine alone. If you don't agree with them, oh well... deal with it.

Kris
 
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babs7262

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Gosh Slot King......

You sure saved me from alot of writing. Not that I have to obligate myself from sharing this but I have gotten the surprise bonus a couple of times so I know it exsists.

The other thing that I dont need to but WILL be kind enough to share is this: First, Im not speaking of anyone in particular because I honestly dont remember names. I dont get windfalls or lots of cashouts like some may think because I do the videos or report the tournaments. I do this by choice because its fun to me and people like it.

The other thing is may I ask what RTG and MG offer that is better than 3 dice? Now understand, this isnt a complaint to those casinos, their businesses and choose not to have little extras. That is what 3 dice is doing "extras" an extra is something your not entitled to, its a gift. Why people get mad about this really slay me. They dont have to have anything. The $10 prize from tournies that people laugh about? I won a $10 tourny and do you see those screenies I showed the last day or so? The ones where I cashed out for over $300? THat was from a $10 no dep win

I still havnt hit real big even when I bet high and hope that someday Ill have a high roller screenshot but thats how I choose to gamble (mostly low roll) so my cashouts will be lower 90% of the time.

I went from Silver ** to Silver * because I went through my deposits fast so I understand that. WHen that $10 win let me gamble for days in a row, I went up to Silver ** again. I cashout alot because I dont expect too much which puts me in a lower status. You shouldnt get gifted if your depositing $10 and cashing out $50 5 times in one weeks time so Im not upset. I may not get a bonus but Im cashing out!

The one thing I did say in chat was if you get a scratch card as a loyalty bonus and you dont win then where's the bonus? I understand why some ppl would get upset at that BUT...again, its a gift , not a given


Just something I remembered. A joke my dad once told me. This lady took her son to the ocean to swim. All of a sudden a huge wave came in and took him way out. They thought he drowned. The woman prayed and all of a sudden there he was alive! The woman looked up to the heavens and said "Excuse me, God, he was wearing a hat?"
 

pacers31

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Very true Slot king and babs, 3Dice is not obligated to give us anything. Perhaps if the variance, swings, whatever you want to call it weren't sooo drastic, people wouldn't feel entitled. As is, the games are so difficult to win at that I believe 3Dice uses these bonuses to help blunt the losses the player takes at their site. It seems (IMO) that they take your money faster than most places and then throw you a bone in an effort to generate good PR. You still lose quickly, but then they give you something to make you feel a little better. Time will tell whether this bonus strategy of theirs works, but with the extreme variance in their games, I can't see how they could make it any other way as players who constantly lose quickly would stop playing there without the extras. At least that is kind of where I'm at with them. I love the service, the reps are great, but unless I have alot of cash to play with, 3Dice isn't my first stop anymore. Just for what it's worth.
 

pacers31

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I'm not on an anti-3Dice rant or anything, we will all determine the fate of 3Dice with our wallets, they will determine our loyalty based on what we percieve as their treatment of us.
 

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