3Dice casino - Any thoughts?

[me_and_ed]

Well, i tried with 20 Euro and.... here: pic 2 & 3 = same, but without x25

Me like it!

Well I would consider yourself very lucky, I played the Tut slot, the identical paytable as ISIS from M/G, that is where the similarities end, $120.00 balance, all spins either.50c or .25c, hit to features, 20 games x6, first one 226 coins, second one 86 coins, this is another clip joint with crap payouts!! Stay far away!!

 

[lojo]

'Clip Joint' seems a little harsh. I've had runs far worse than that on a dozen or more MG slots, scads of times. Maybe there is a difference between fun mode and real money @3dice, I don't know. I won't deposit there until they have an acceptable auditing system. Please keep in mind the first seven posts in this thread. (the 1st and the 7th)

My opinion is that they shouldn't have launched without having all their poop in one sock, but they did.

Are there any Belgian members who may know the terrestial counterparts of 3dice? They might shed some light. Are there any Industry people following that part of the EU? Are the management and development of the online casino related to the groundworks? I don't have a clue.

Until they have accountability and actually start marketing I'll reserve judgement. But I'll keep in mind that they responded here and offered more info than they seemed to need to.

btw the novelty has worn off of my initial impression (time and exposure to Imperial 3D helped, as well as my ego as an artist) but I still like the graphics on Tut, for the most part.

I hope your spins tonight make you happy, wherever you play

 

[3Dice]

'Clip Joint' seems a little harsh. I've had runs far worse than that on a dozen or more MG slots, scads of times. Maybe there is a difference between fun mode and real money @3dice, I don't know. I won't deposit there until they have an acceptable auditing system. Please keep in mind the first seven posts in this thread. (the 1st and the 7th)

Thanks lojo, the tut slot is (just like isis) a very high variance slot, so you
can have both real lucky as well as unlucky runs. Obviously, its much easier
for us to proove our good intentions when a player wins, but unfortunately,
not all players win ..

Which brings us back to third party auditing, very high on our priority list,
and obviously something of which we underestimated the importance. In land
based casinos, licensing and machine homologation takes care of that
problem, a situation regretably different for online casinos.

btw the novelty has worn off of my initial impression (time and exposure to Imperial 3D helped, as well as my ego as an artist) but I still like the graphics on Tut, for the most part.

Thanks lojo, I hope the new slots we have ligned up will re-spark your initial enthusiasm !

I hope your spins tonight make you happy, wherever you play

We second that.

Regards,

the 3Dice team.

 

[tencardcharlie]

From my own personal experience, those guys are good.

I have also tried out this place. I took their high roller bonus, played mostly blackjack and made a big withdrawal.

I couldn't withdraw to neteller immediately though, because they had to refund their neteller account. They were very helpful in making a bank wire withdrawal instead. Recieved my €1500 without trouble. I also played the dice slot and I must say I was lucky, so I would not jump to conclusions about slot payouts.

Support was very helpful and sent REAL replies, instead of the canned, unhelpful responses starting with "Thank you for choosing XYZ casino" that I often experience. Also their neteller withdrawals (when available ) are instant, as pstn.. mentioned - not instant like "only takes a few hours but really instant.

 

[Nifty29]

I do like the software - its very different and very smooth (for me) and that has to be a good thing. There seems to be a lot of complaints about RTG and Microgaming slot payouts lately so if 3Dice can get a good list of unique bonus slots happening I would be there with bells on.

Kudos to 3Dice for attending these forums and providing professional customer service.

Cant wait for the new slots - any hint when we might see them??? (and if the coin size will be variable??)

 

[me_and_ed]

'Clip Joint' seems a little harsh. I've had runs far worse than that on a dozen or more MG slots, scads of times. Maybe there is a difference between fun mode and real money @3dice, I don't know. I won't deposit there until they have an acceptable auditing system. Please keep in mind the first seven posts in this thread. (the 1st and the 7th)

My opinion is that they shouldn't have launched without having all their poop in one sock, but they did.

Are there any Belgian members who may know the terrestial counterparts of 3dice? They might shed some light. Are there any Industry people following that part of the EU? Are the management and development of the online casino related to the groundworks? I don't have a clue.

Until they have accountability and actually start marketing I'll reserve judgement. But I'll keep in mind that they responded here and offered more info than they seemed to need to.

btw the novelty has worn off of my initial impression (time and exposure to Imperial 3D helped, as well as my ego as an artist) but I still like the graphics on Tut, for the most part.

I hope your spins tonight make you happy, wherever you play

You think it is a little harsh, what would you consider to be the most important part of an online operation? I would say trust, trust that the games are fair, trust that you are getting paid, if you were starting your casino and invested many hours and dollars would you not have some form of payout verification, some third party auditing, I would.

 

[lojo]

You think it is a little harsh, what would you consider to be the most important part of an online operation? I would say trust, trust that the games are fair, trust that you are getting paid, if you were starting your casino and invested many hours and dollars would you not have some form of payout verification, some third party auditing, I would.

Agreed. But their current lack of an external auditor doesn't mean they are thieves.

Hope you have better luck today

 

[me_and_ed]

Agreed. But their current lack of an external auditor doesn't mean they are thieves.

Hope you have better luck today

No, you are correct, I wish there was never any online casino wrong doing, then I would still profess the innocent until proven guilty theory, unfortunately that is not the case, I hope they are above board, time will tell, I will observe from the other side of the fence on this one.

 

[lojo]

Me too.

 

[AussieDave]

Well I would consider yourself very lucky, I played the Tut slot, the identical paytable as ISIS from M/G, that is where the similarities end, $120.00 balance, all spins either.50c or .25c, hit to features, 20 games x6, first one 226 coins, second one 86 coins, this is another clip joint with crap payouts!! Stay far away!!

After much talk I decided to give this place a try too. After all one can't gain a true perspective.

I've played in both real play & also took part in a couple of their slot comps.

In so far as the Tut slot, there is a lot of eye candy but after that, I agree with me_and_ed, IMHO it's a pretty pathetic slot.

Granted it is a high variance slot, but, with no auditing & nothing to certify these slots are legit, I wont drop another dime here; least with Isis I know it's audited and I feel I have a chance of winning! Unfortunately I can't say the same with Tut Slot or any of their slots for that matter.

On a plus though, their Video Poker seems to pay out pretty well. Though, I've found if one game is not paying you need to change games.

 

[lojo]

After much talk I decided to give this place a try too. After all one can't gain a true perspective.

I've played in both real play & also took part in a couple of their slot comps.

In so far as the Tut slot, there is a lot of eye candy but after that, I agree with me_and_ed, IMHO it's a pretty pathetic slot.

Granted it is a high variance slot, but, with no auditing & nothing to certify these slots are legit, I wont drop another dime here; least with Isis I know it's audited and I feel I have a chance of winning! Unfortunately I can't say the same with Tut Slot or any of their slots for that matter.

On a plus though, their Video Poker seems to pay out pretty well. Though, I've found if one game is not paying you need to change games.

I can only imagine how difficult this business would be to enter. It really is the new frontier if you're not one of the 'good old boys' (Not that it would be easy to set up a MG shack or a kentucky fried franchise)

The little I know of it this industry is changing.

Trezz, you've 'outed' these guys for better or worse as OP on this thread.
I'm curious, how were they marketed to you? Were they looking for feedback, was it an affiliate invitation.. personal/private, misspeak?

If I were in their shoes now would I certify with ecogra or sumsuch? (the threads are not boding well for such in certain instances) Would I hire moneytree (PWC) or the wizard's hand me down? (no offense dude)? What the hell would I do? I don't know this industry, and its certainly nothing that can be googled.

For now, I'm looking at several feedbacks here on BET/RETURN. Not graphics.
Soda sez
10cc sez
errl sez
nifty?

Three or four players saying good, one player saying ouch, and one holding his position.

Variance?

Maybe all their ducks weren't together for a 'perfect' launch. But I'm hoping that you did them a favor and got them on the stick, Trezz.
Looks like 50/50. I'm going with the fifty

 

[tennis_balls]

i gave their intro offer a whirl.

i liked their games. their customer service was great and instantaneous via live chat.

one thing to beware of is that with some of their games you have be careful on your wager amount.....i was intending to play $20 solitaire and i accidentally played $104 solitaire.

they have a huge variety of video poker and have one game that's pretty close to microgaming's All Aces (though i think MGs paytable is slightly higher for 4OAK)

i didn't spend much time with their slots. i thought the graphics were ok, but certainly not in MG's league. I hit one bonus round on the Egyptian slot and I think it paid 54x.

 

[tennis_balls]

i pointed out a software glitch yesterday to 3dice.

today i received a very generous comp with no WR. IMHO that's usually an indication of a solid outfit.

 

[Richtree7]

I played at 3 Dice yesterday...

and had a little trouble with the craps game. After informing management about the trouble.... I received a WR $20 comp
No wins yet but I will continue to try. There craps graphic is unique and I like that.

 

[lancia]

Free competitions

I've been participating in their free competitions, some restricted to particular games and others open. I've been amazed at the high scores of the competition winners because I have barely managed to double my starting stake at any point in the competition. I've always ended up with 0 credits while chasing the winners. But last weekend's competition ending this morning was different. Starting with $1,000 comp credits, I managed to hang in there with about $1,900 by playing slots (tut), blackjack, and video poker. But the leaders had $8,000 to $9,000 in comps and time was running out, with only 7 hours left. So, I decided to play single-hand jacks or better at $25 per hand (not something I'm likely to do with real money). After 10 minutes or so, I drew to a royal flush and hit it for $20,000. That put me in first place, where I stand to win the prize of $40. I don't know whether to be happy or sad!

I have grown fond of this casino while participating in the free competitions. As a video poker fan, I like the wide choice of games, though their multi-hand games are a bit slow. The slots variety is too small at this time. But the squirrel slot seems to have a decent payoff because of the bonus rounds, and the tut slot, like any high variance slot, can produce great returns if one plays long enough.

 

[tristan727]

If their rep is still here, he may wanna read this. I signed up with your casino a few months ago, and lost my deposit after an hour or so of decent gameplay (makes a nice change from the usual MG, Playtech, crypto etc.) I then, however, completely forgot that your casino even existed, until noticed this thread just now. Really should send out newsletters or something, if not to entice - then at least to remind!

 

[lojo]

I get the feeling they aren't going to market strongly yet. But yeah, a nice little email with an invite now and then would be sweet, especially for inaguaral players like you

 

[3Dice]

I have grown fond of this casino while participating in the free competitions. As a video poker fan, I like the wide choice of games, though their multi-hand games are a bit slow.

Thanks for your kind words lancia, I'm glad you like the competitions. Have you tried putting the multihand videopoker speed on 'turbo' ? (Its in the 'gears' menu, top left corner of the screen.)

If their rep is still here, he may wanna read this. I signed up with your casino a few months ago, and lost my deposit after an hour or so of decent gameplay (makes a nice change from the usual MG, Playtech, crypto etc.) I then, however, completely forgot that your casino even existed, until noticed this thread just now. Really should send out newsletters or something, if not to entice - then at least to remind!

I get the feeling they aren't going to market strongly yet. But yeah, a nice little email with an invite now and then would be sweet, especially for inaguaral players like you

Thanks tristan727, lojo, point well taken. We are indeed, very consciously, not yet doing any large-scale marketing. Early detection by 'the meister radar' has
given us the opportunity to gather some pro-player feedback early on. 3Dice is not in the market to be another fish in the pond. We intend to do things right, and that means we are working hard on incorporating all the feedback received so far.

We really understand and even appreciate the impatience, although I believe everyone will prefer good over fast ..

on second thought .. *cracks the whip*

 

[lancia]

Video Poker Auto-hold Flaw?

Thanks for the helpful responses to our posts, 3Dice. One other comment I want to make concerns the auto-hold software in the video poker games. It seems to me that some of the hold decisions are not the best. For example, given the hand AH, KH, 8H, 6C, and QS in Jacks or Better Poker, the 3Dice auto-hold feature keeps the AH, KH, and 8H. According to the software WinPoker, the best choice is to hold AH and KH. I have played thousands of video poker hands on Microgaming software, and I believe its auto-hold would also keep just the AH and KH. The 3Dice software uses the same apparently less-than-optimal strategy in a Jacks or Better hand with 3 cards to a royal flush. The auto-hold consistently keeps a fourth card to a flush instead of discarding that fourth card and drawing 2 cards to the royal flush.

 

[3Dice]

Thanks for the helpful responses to our posts, 3Dice. One other comment I want to make concerns the auto-hold software in the video poker games. It seems to me that some of the hold decisions are not the best. For example, given the hand AH, KH, 8H, 6C, and QS in Jacks or Better Poker, the 3Dice auto-hold feature keeps the AH, KH, and 8H. According to the software WinPoker, the best choice is to hold AH and KH. I have played thousands of video poker hands on Microgaming software, and I believe its auto-hold would also keep just the AH and KH. The 3Dice software uses the same apparently less-than-optimal strategy in a Jacks or Better hand with 3 cards to a royal flush. The auto-hold consistently keeps a fourth card to a flush instead of discarding that fourth card and drawing 2 cards to the royal flush.

Hey Lancia,

If you tell me what ruleset you saw this in, I will have our engineer verify this immeadiately. The autohold in the 3Dice software is designed to give you the absolute perfect play strategy, and the numbers should work out, even if it feels slightly 'not natural' .. sometimes the combined odds to get some of the lower combinations will simply yield a bigger return than taking the odds for the big win ..

Kind regards,

 

[lancia]

Hey Lancia,

If you tell me what ruleset you saw this in, I will have our engineer verify this immeadiately. The autohold in the 3Dice software is designed to give you the absolute perfect play strategy, and the numbers should work out, even if it feels slightly 'not natural' .. sometimes the combined odds to get some of the lower combinations will simply yield a bigger return than taking the odds for the big win ..

Kind regards,

What is a ruleset? Can I simply send a screenshot example to the casino with its "Send screenshot function"? Will that work?

 

[3Dice]

Hey lancia,

The rule-set is e.g. jacks or better or deuces wild etc .. it determines the paytable and thus also the perfect playing strategy. Sending a screenshot to your My3Dice will do just fine !

Kind Regards,

 

[lancia]

3Dice, if you check my post you will see that I specified jacks or better poker. But I will also send an example of a screenshot that illustrates the point.

 

[3Dice]

3Dice, if you check my post you will see that I specified jacks or better poker. But I will also send an example of a screenshot that illustrates the point.

Hey lancia, sorry must've read over that the first time. I've had our engineers do the math, and it seems indeed that the choice would be to go for the flush (holding 3 cards) when you are playing 1-4 coins and not (holding only two cards) if playing at 5 coins. This will be corrected, thanks for bringing it to our attention!

 

[lancia]

Very good, 3Dice. Thanks. I assumed a 5-coin bet, which returns the maximum amount possible for a royal flush.