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winbig

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Ok, first of all, get your mind out of the gutter :p


I'm :confused: confused. Not too long ago they raise their limits on slots, but in the same breath lower the limits on Blackjack? Originally it was set to $1-$300, now it's $1-100.
What's up with that?

Enzo, can you please comment on this? I think you're shutting out med-high(er) rollers by doing this, unless you can change the limits on an individual basis. I know I like playing > $100/hand if I have the BR for it at the time.

Thanks :D

Just started a tourney. Here's how the first 4 hands went:

1: 4 card dealer 21 (vs 18, 3 showing)
2: Dealer Blackjack
3: Dealer Blackjack
4: 4 card 20 (vs 17, 3 showing)

:eek2: ...switching over to slots...lol
 

NASHVEGAS

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Actually prolly a step in the right direction for slot players which is there true niche market. May eliminate the risk of having to rob Peter to pay Paul when Paul makes a big hit on BJ which is possible! Slot payout ratios may increase so maybe Katodog's/RW's thread was beneficial to both player and casino aka Win/Win!
 

winbig

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Actually prolly a step in the right direction for slot players which is there true niche market. May eliminate the rob Peter to pay Paul when Paul makes a big hit on BJ which is possible! Slot payout ratios may increase so maybe RW's thread was beneficial to both player and casino aka Win/Win!
But if what I've been hearing (reading) lately is true, it seems the slot %'s are getting lower and lower.....so I'm :confused:
 

winbig

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While we're on the subject, Squirrel Pike needs its paytable updated, unless I'm missing something.

Before the increase of bet sizes, the payout for 3x squirrels is up to 15000 coins. I'm definitely not complaining, but as you can see, a max bet can and will pay more than the advertised amount :D
 

NASHVEGAS

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But if what I've been hearing (reading) lately is true, it seems the slot %'s are getting lower and lower.....so I'm :confused:
I will PM you later but you may figure it out without a PM! Risk Management in order to increase slot payout ratio's.
 

3Dice

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I'm :confused: confused. Not too long ago they raise their limits on slots, but in the same breath lower the limits on Blackjack? Originally it was set to $1-$300, now it's $1-100.
What's up with that?

Enzo, can you please comment on this? I think you're shutting out med-high(er) rollers by doing this, unless you can change the limits on an individual basis. I know I like playing > $100/hand if I have the BR for it at the time.
Hi Winbig,

For every game a casino operates, a reserve is required. On the long run all games make the casino money because of the house-edge, but on the short term, any casino game holds a risk that is covered by a reserve. The size of the reserve depends on the game and the bet size. When 3Dice launched little over a year ago, we offered no video slots, and reserves were calculated and allocated for the games we offered back then. During 2007 a lot of video slots have been added and many more will be released during 2008, combined with the many requests we got for higher stakes on the slots we decided to reallocate the reserves to fit the demands of the players we have today.

As 3Dice grows, you will see that these numbers will increase overall, although I do support the decision to make sure to first meet the demands of the players we already have before trying to expand our scope to other new players.

But if what I've been hearing (reading) lately is true, it seems the slot %'s are getting lower and lower.....so I'm :confused:
The payout percentages of the slot machines we operate can not be altered in any way and have been the same for every single machine since its release. Should a machine's payout ever be adjusted, this would be clearly communicated to our players, and be accompanied with the appropriate theme and name (v2?) change to make sure no confusion is possible.

And although repeated enough - there's no such thing as positive variance only - its a love-hate thing that goes both ways. Machines that can go really fast can do that in either direction. Just keep in mind that variance also defines how many spins you can make before you are sure to be caught up by the house edge. If variance=0 then every spin costs the same amount and the house-edge catches up with you from spin 1 .. if the variance is high you can still be up or get up on the house after many hundreds of thousands of spins ..

The slot machines we offer, and especially supersuits, are not for the faint of heart ! And an unlucky run is never fun - no argument there - but the word on the street is we have a great support department .. the only thing that possibly beats venting in a forum is talking to a trained professional that is in the position to do something about it !

Kindest Regards,

Enzo
 

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Hi Winbig,
the only thing that possibly beats venting in a forum is talking to a trained professional that is in the position to do something about it !

Kindest Regards,

Enzo
Enzo, I'm just curious about your last statement that I highlighted above...What exactly does that imply or mean ? :confused:
 

winbig

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Enzo, I'm just curious about your last statement that I highlighted above...What exactly does that imply or mean ? :confused:
Thanks, I missed that.

the only thing that possibly beats venting in a forum is talking to a trained professional that is in the position to do something about it !
What exactly does that mean? Who was venting? :confused: I merely asked an honest question!
 

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I read it as trained professional=support and do something about it=give some bonus :)
 

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The slot machines we offer, and especially supersuits, are not for the faint of heart ! And an unlucky run is never fun - no argument there - but the word on the street is we have a great support department .. the only thing that possibly beats venting in a forum is talking to a trained professional that is in the position to do something about it !

Kindest Regards,

Enzo
don't mean to derail, but...

Enzo,

just curious... does that mean supersuits is the highest variance game? certainly that would explain quite a lot since i thought tut would be the highest, but i don't think i've ever seen any wins on supersuits that could justify the streaks (versus tut or medieval moolah), IMHO.

also, i'm not sure what you mean by an unlucky run. would that be a few sessions, a few weeks, more? i agree a bad run is not as fun, but i think players are concerned about the extent of some of these "unlucky runs." From a player's point of view, it's very discouraging and doesn't make sense to play a game that exhibits only the negative aspect of high variance, if you know what i mean.

and if your last statement that "....the only thing that possibly beats venting in a forum is talking to a trained professional...." was regarding customer service and bonuses, there seems to be a conflict in that some people think it's shameful to ask for such things (therefore i stopped, did anyone else? :D)
but if you meant "trained professional" to mean a psychiatrist or something, then i can't argue with that!! :D:D:D

also, i know a lot of people are venting.... but some might just have a point or two that they would like addressed rather than a $50 freebie.

ps. i've responded to your pm 3 times now and before anyone flames me for bothering the big guy, please let me know if i should reply to your pm to someone else or to just drop the matter that you brought up to me.
 

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the only thing that possibly beats venting in a forum is talking to a trained professional that is in the position to do something about it !


IMO: I think it mean's talk to some 1 that can resolve the issue before you bring it to a open forum

an it has nothing to do with bonus's


Good Luck All

an Enzo know's I see a shrink

Cindy
 

3Dice

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Enzo, I'm just curious about your last statement that I highlighted above...What exactly does that imply or mean ? :confused:
Hi RobWin,

I'm sorry I wasn't more specific - it simply means that our support staff can help you get your stats, put them in perspective and where appropriate can comp in case of substantial bad luck. On top of that they are trained to stay friendly and respectful in all scenario's and may be able to alleviate some of the frustration that comes with an unlucky run.

WinBig said:
What exactly does that mean? Who was venting? I merely asked an honest question!
Hi WinBig,

I apologize if you felt this was a remark directed towards yourself - it absolutely was not. I merely wanted to stress again that our customer support department is there for our customers, and most likely the most interesting first stop with any questions or remarks.


Hippo925 said:
From a player's point of view, it's very discouraging and doesn't make sense to play a game that exhibits only the negative aspect of high variance, if you know what i mean.
Hi Hippo,

Variance is something that goes both ways of the curve. There's no such thing as only positive or only negative variance, its a two edge sword that can work both ways. The extreme variance of SuperSuits is caused both by the fairly infrequent scatters as well as the fact that this machine has almost 60% of its payout in the feature. A couple of features in a short timeframe will sky-rocket you, and a long run without will go just as fast in the other direction. I've pm'ed you your personal stats, and so I do understand your perception, the other side occurs just as much tho, and SuperSuits is the favorite machine of many of our players.

Kindest Regards,

Enzo
 

peteyweestro

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Enzo i think i understand this varience thingy ok, but my question is....with var being so high on your slots how come the payouts for individual line winners is so very bad, meaning that you can hit 3 or 4 of the same symbol on a pay line or 2 and still not even make your original bet back?payout doesn't have anything to do with the high varience does it?...i still like your casino anyways though and was able to solve my depositing problem i had so it all seems a ok for now
 

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the only thing that possibly beats venting in a forum is talking to a trained professional that is in the position to do something about it !


IMO: I think it mean's talk to some 1 that can resolve the issue before you bring it to a open forum

an it has nothing to do with bonus's


Good Luck All

AND ENZO KNOWS I SEE A SHRINK!

Cindy
LMAO CINDY
 

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Enzo, you might want to clear out your PM box as it has exceeded storage and is not accepting PM's *cough* :D
Need to find out about the techie, remember? :p
 

hippo925

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Variance is something that goes both ways of the curve. There's no such thing as only positive or only negative variance, its a two edge sword that can work both ways. The extreme variance of SuperSuits is caused both by the fairly infrequent scatters as well as the fact that this machine has almost 60% of its payout in the feature. A couple of features in a short timeframe will sky-rocket you, and a long run without will go just as fast in the other direction. I've pm'ed you your personal stats, and so I do understand your perception, the other side occurs just as much tho, and SuperSuits is the favorite machine of many of our players.

Kindest Regards,

Enzo
Enzo,

truly appreciate your response and for all the info in your last pm. it does put things in perspective and it's nice to know you understand where i was coming from.

i know it's not easy being bombarded all the time, but i'm sure a lot of us respect the fact that you remain so devoted to being here. Many a rep have been scared away by what i consider to be the most influential forum and i, for one, appreciate your efforts!!! No one said it would be easy, did they?

now.......when are the new games coming!?!?!
 

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