3Dice, any good?

Quickwin

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Hi,

So Ive went back to 3Dice after many years being dormant account, since they accepting alternative payments such as bitcoin and I went on little apeshit over their slot, I wanted to see if it has any potensial, litterly every bonus i got (90%) of time the bonuses paid like 5-10X, dont get me started with how many spins it took to trigger on their "high variance slots"

I donated hefty $6000 last few days bets from 2-8dollar, and their slot seems to be almost meaningless with their dead spins, no action nor entertaining. "Trigger a bonus after 300 spins! oh well, i got at least my bet back" :axeman2:

So my question is, is 3Dice a place to even considering play upper bets? I see most of their winners are like penny stakes and $100 win seems to be like a jackpot in their eyes.

I kinda feel like i just threw money out of the window with so many dead spins after dead spins. 1000 dollar with 4 dollar bet lasted like 30min max.

btw i just found out they are not CM accredited anymore, kinda bummer as i would think twice If i knew this before hand.
 

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It's a bit hard to comment without more details on what slots Quickwin was playing. By modern standards nothing on 3Dice's books is particularly high variance, when I started playing there nearly ten years ago the slots landscape was very different!

Stake levels should make no difference whatsoever to how the games play, so really it's all about matching stake to bankroll as a multiplication of stake, my general rule of thumb is 500x stake is about the safety zone for plugging away at a slot there and having a good chance of a decent hit or two, so a $1000 deposit on $4 bets is half that at 250x stake.

I've done well over one million real money game rounds at 3Dice over the years and my sitewide RTP is pretty much bang on (if you ask 3Dice for your stats they will send them to you), so there's nothing 'magic' going on, they're still random games with a house edge.

One thing I will say is that my cashouts at 3Dice tend to come from good runs rather than single big hits, the variance of many games seems to be pegged at delivering lots of wins in the 150-300x stake sort of sweet spot, catch something like Enchanted Spins on a rich patch and your balance can climb surprisingly fast, but without landing any single mega wins.
 
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I was gonna refrain from posting in this thread but I decided to just say.

I was also a player of 9+ years too at 3dice. I have played their on and off over the years. Had some very nice wins and had some very bad losses.

But all in all my deposits and withdraws ratio is not too bad, Bonuses are very decent and worthwhile. But as for slots. Well they have very few slots to choose from which is my sticking point. I still love their slots. But they can be very cold as well. On the other hand as @ChopleyIOM stated about a "Rich Patch" what he means is, they can go on streaks. Where you basically just can not stop winning and you can have such a lucky streak that in some cases can last hours or in rare cases a few days.

But on the other side you can get very very very long cold spells where you just can never hit anything over 50X on any slot you play for weeks and months at a time.

If they had a lot more slots it would be an even better casino. As a UK player who can still play their. I know they do not have a UKGC license etc etc So depositing and withdrawing their for me is a pain in the ass. I have to wait for either a broker. Or I now can use Flexepin vouchers. Again they are painful too as they are really expensive in terms of the fees..... A broker is another player who has won and can broker via paypal, you send them the amount you want to deposit and they just gift you that amount once they receive the funds via paypal. But that can be painful sometimes, especially because of the time zones and most players are in the USA or Canada etc etc. So it is better to play when USA players are all active at 3dice lol

I mean I have a love hate relationship with the place. But all in all it is still a good casino and trustworthy place to play at. I would just perhaps not go mad their and just deposit once or twice a month for a punt. That is what I do now. Keep trying to maintain a decent loyalty level just becomes a chore and very hard. As keeping the level stable can just be painful and annoying.

I love some of their slots more than others. But they can like I said be cold the majority of the time. But all slots can be at any casino. It is always just a matter of Luck and if you deposit and play a slot at the time it wants to pay!

If 3dice got more slots at a faster rate then I would obviously play there a bit more full time again. But they would also need to somehow decide if they want to get licenses in other countries. If they did. They sure would be a much better option then going forward. But License fee costs are hard to pay for. I am not sure even if 3dice has the available funds to buy license in other countries or even if they want to.

I mean I do hate playing at an unregulated casino. But we all did back in the day before countries stepped up and created their own governing bodies to oversee the online gambling market in their own countries. I am happy the UKGC are here to a certain extent as they have protected us players a lot from a lot of bad casinos over the last few years. But 3dice is not a bad casino what so ever and never was.

Withdraws when I was still able to get them via Neteller was always within 1 day maximum. But obviously I can no longer use Neteller.

On top of that, they have the chat and the tournaments to play as well. Tournaments happen every 1 hour with a 15 minute break between them the VIP ones. The VIP ones are for any member who has a loyalty level of bronze 1 * star or above..... It is also very very easy to get to bronze 1 star and maintain that level too. :)

Anyway that is my two cents. :)
 

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For clarity I don't think 3Dice's slots are compensated in any way, particularly in a UK context as 'streaks' are something coded into our compensated fruit machines.

I just think 3Dice's variance profile lends itself to quite acute feelings of a slot being 'hot or cold', they've always felt a lot like to me like the old WMS slots at Jackpot Party, same deal, where if you caught them right it felt almost impossible to lose (even with the shitty base game RTP of 92%!), but on the flip side they could be brutal when dead. Same deal, lots of wins in the 150-300x stake range.

Also it depends what you play at 3Dice, their lower variance slots are really very gentle by modern standards (Wild Waves, Payola, Industria etc), and even the 'monsters' such as Tut aren't that hardcore really.

I had an awesome run there this month leading to a really nice cashout for a low-roller like me, including a Royal Flush on their Video Poker, but it was an extended 'rich run', not a single big hit, the Royal Flush (800x stake) was by far the biggest single hit.
 

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So almost 30 days in and my overall RTP is around last 30 days 75%

Around 15,000 spins with average bets of 5 dollar on video slots.

Around $20,000.00 in loss.

I am not happy with the result at all, I expect to lose in the long run but to have dead spins after dead spins in row at normal range is scary and I don't want to compare minimum bets with $5 bets as it definately feels dirrefent payout % for higher bets.

last 10 bonus round been 1 - 15X

At this ratio, scratch cards from the store have perhaps better payouts imo.

I am not giving up just yet, hopefully something turns around.

BTW, My RTP on classic slots is at 60%.
 

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I can't speak to the slots playing differently on different bets, I would assume this is not the case and the RNG calls are the same irrespective of bet size, bet mode (real or fun), tourney mode etc. 3Dice should be able to confirm this for you though.

Remember that all the classic slots are progressives so you'll be giving some RTP away to the progressive contribution. Also if you're playing the 'wheel' games (Old Glory, Double Dough, Triple Dough, Penta Pay), there's quite a chunk of RTP tied up in the wheels too, if you have a good run on the wheels you can win a surprising amount in a short period of time, but a dry patch on the wheels can really, really hurt. (Plus there's the variance in awards from the wheels when you do get them as well.)

Also Penta Pay is a volatile bugger (I generally steer clear of it) and Triple Dough is pretty spicy too. Penta Pay has a win of 1000x stake which is a red seven and two of the 5x symbols, but that's a hard win to get!

I have done many, many spins on the classic slots over the years and I've never hit one of the progressives, so don't get your hopes up too high on that count.

75% after 15,000 spins is pretty poor but it's not a particularly huge sample size, what games are you playing apart from the classic slots? Some of the video slots can be pretty lumpy but they all even out in the end. I remember when Arctic Adventure was released it took me to pieces for quite an extended period of time and I thought I'd never get to T-RTP on it, but it did kick back with some decent hits in the end, IIRC I managed about 1800x stake off a bonus round on it.

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3Dice is a great place to play at. :thumbsup:

You win some and you lose some. :p

Agreed! I just wish I could get over the $300 win hump I've had for the past 10+ years of playing there. I swear, every time
my balance reaches over $300, everything turns cold and my balance takes a nose dive. I guess I have to learn to hit the
cash-out button when reaching $300 next time I play there.

Other than that, they just don't push out slots fast enough like other providers do, which makes me crave 3Dice once in a blue
moon, then lose interest with them for months on end reminiscing about their slots library and becoming uninspired to deposit.
 

Quickwin

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Now I'm down around $25,000.00 since last this post.

Its just does not make sense to me with the variance on the slots, ive done 24.000 spins. its like like im playing Lotto with payout in 100,000+ in payouts, or megaways with hits that take you at least back 80% of the losses here and there.

these two bonus screenies gives you idea how things are most of the time.

I think most of the players there are penny players like yourself Chop and and does not refelct people who play more than pocket changes.

Look at these bonus rounds example investing a lot and getting insanely bad returns, like I have played slots last 15 years, I expect to lose but I dont expect to give 5000 dollar and get nothing back, straight to 0.

I am little upset that your called "RNG" gives these kinda ultra rare bad runs.

At this point I dont know what to do, I am not giving up just yet, hopefully something turns around very soon.
 

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Now I'm down around $25,000.00 since last this post.

Its just does not make sense to me with the variance on the slots, ive done 24.000 spins. its like like im playing Lotto with payout in 100,000+ in payouts, or megaways with hits that take you at least back 80% of the losses here and there.

these two bonus screenies gives you idea how things are most of the time.

I think most of the players there are penny players like yourself Chop and and does not refelct people who play more than pocket changes.

Look at these bonus rounds example investing a lot and getting insanely bad returns, like I have played slots last 15 years, I expect to lose but I dont expect to give 5000 dollar and get nothing back, straight to 0.

I am little upset that your called "RNG" gives these kinda ultra rare bad runs.

At this point I dont know what to do, I am not giving up just yet, hopefully something turns around very soon.
Sorry for your bad run dude: you say your 5K gave you bad returns - but just looking at this session, you're betting 20,- a spin..
That's 250 spins worth, so to speak (it's not ofc. but just for some easy math) and the 2 screens you posted are literally two of the most volatile slots out there: i'm not surprised.

The amount of times i took 50,-+ to Tut, playing minimum bets (0.25 cent) and was utterly destroyed with plenty of bonuses as above, or worse - none, is too high to actually want to recall..

Player's choice so to speak :p

A bit of asking around here - or there - either in chat @ players, or their support, would have warned you of Tut's rep, and Tesla is much newer, but definitely out there in terms of extreme high variance too.

I always warn all new players i get to talk to, specifically after they post a big win, to check their betsizes, as 3Dice slots are special. They are great, but it's a real feast or famine type of software, overall.

You don't need to bet 20,- a spin to win a lot there, especially now they've added the sitewide jackpot.
Anyway, curb your betsize, and i'm sure you'll see some great wins soon enough. Or don't - up to you ofc.
Just don't expect much from 5K on 20 bets there (or anywhere these days -unless maybe your into blackjack :D)

Hope that helped, cheers...
 
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ChopleyIOM

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Yeah Tut and Tesla are both pretty harsh games, Tesla in particular is a hard one to hit well on because of the way you need to get the retrigger within the feature to get the multiplier up, and even then you get a very small window of opportunity for something to land.

As it happens I got my lifetime stats from 3Dice the other week and my stats on Tesla are SPINS - 9335, RTP - 86.70%, so not great numbers but a very small sample size. (As opposed to Enchanted Spins for example, which I've done over 180K spins on.)

Betting $10-$20 on games like Tut and Tesla is a very high risk strategy, and whilst the headline figures for your losses are high Quickwin, relative to your stakes they're still well within the realms of expected variance, you're just on a downswing rather than an upswing.

Far gentler games are available at 3Dice, Conny & Blyde has a nice high RTP and it's not that difficult to get all the wilds going for the chance of a reasonable pay, the top tier 5OAK is a good pay too, even on a single line.
 

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Update:

My avrage bet is 6 dollar pr spin overall of those 54K spins this month.

Spins 54,000 spins this month.

RTP 89% (Number from support)

Loss around $32,000


Really great numbers indeed....🤪

More update to come
 

Quickwin

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Update:

Down $35,000

Current stats are just disgusting.

My RTP on classic slots are at 40%
My RTP on video slots: 60%

Spins around 50,000
Bet avrage 6 dollar.

My RTP on yesterdays session was staggering 5%, just look at some dead spins.

Did I also mention that the $750 loyality bonus on 3 dollar bet lasted 20min with dead spin straight to 0?




I am actually really pissed right now, from something that happened few days ago, I am not sure if I should disclose it here but will do it later.
Something is definately going on, also to be encouraged to deposit because it will come soon seems to be wierd thing to say.
 

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KasinoKiller

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Stop spunking your cash away and then coming her to complain about 5% RTP's.

You could stake a streamer instead; they almost always win even those who play on Aspire sites.
 

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I've already said that Penta Pay is a brutal single liner when you catch it wrong, even Triple Dough can do a lot of damage. (I think my biggest loss on Triple Dough is £600 on 30p spins chasing the progressive and the top win, which is 2000x stake, carry that over to your $3 spins on Penta Pay and that'd be $6,000 down the tubes.)

If you're having such a bad time there then walk away, I've done that with casinos/providers/slots in the past where I didn't feel like I was getting a decent game, not because I thought anything shady was going on, but because I just wasn't enjoying the experience.

As for your final comment, if you've got something to say then just say it, insinuations of 'something bad' having happened without anything to back it up is poor form IMO.
 

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Dude please stop? Its proprietary software lol. Nobody would ever know if they decided to adjust your personnal rtp while everyone else is doing fine on small bets. 5% rtp... sounds like a bgaming slot on bitstarz :)
 

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With this screen shot that took me crazy amount of spins to trigger and gave me 22 spins with 7X and paid 6dollar on the spins, i am stepping down play on 3dice, its just feels something very ill is going on.

To Najasaki: They removed my responsible gaming deposit limit 3 times although it was me asking it should not be possible when im on tilt on insane losing streak, also they removed the completely responsible gaming section for a period of time i had to send them several message to get it back up again.

To some people here: bUt rEmemBer tHe vAriance bRo, no, 65,000 spins with this RTP is not normal. as long as you have not played the same bets dont bother to back up your statement because i am 100% sure the bet size does matter.
 

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Not my hit but someone won this at 3Dice tonight, they were playing $45 bets on Battle of Bastogne and hit a five scatters trigger, they didn't get the progressive but the round itself paid 2830x stake for a total win of $127,350 so yes, their games can hit big on big stakes.

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Real shame they dont take UK players anymore - would be the perfect alternative to the crap that is served up to the UK these days.
I remember playing on the old download version of the site. Never had any issues ever. Payouts always quick - great bonuses - and whilst not a massive selection of slots each game was unique. Wonder if one day they ever would re open the UK market ....
 

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3Dice have recently gone crypto only, even on the IOM I can no longer deposit using Neteller/Skrill/EcoPayz.

EcoPayz was the last to go and Anna at 3Dice confirmed they'd been told by EcoPayz they wouldn't service them any longer because of the Curacao licence.

As such I ventured into the world of crypto and set myself up a Coinbase wallet, so now to deposit to 3Dice I buy some BCH and add it to my Coinbase wallet, and then transfer it over to 3Dice using a QRCode and the app on my phone.

I'm intending to make a video about it for my channel as it was quite the faff to get the Coinbase account setup and verified, but once it was all done it works OK in honesty, and I've been able to deposit to 3Dice using crypto without issue.

My point here is that if someone in the UK were to VPN in to 3Dice (from a non-UK IP to get around the geolocation blocking) and deposit using crypto, I think they'd be OK.

One thing I will note is there are fees on the Coinbase side, and crypto is so wildly volatile that the value of your 'investment' will fluctuate in realtime in front of you in the Coinbase app as you process the deposit, plus the blockchain itself can take a fair few minutes to validate the deposit.

To end up with £100 of playable funds in 3Dice, I reckon you'd be looking at a spend of around £105 to cover fees and potential 'investment loss' in the few minutes it might take to get your deposit processed, so it's not without issue. (Although theoretically the value of your BCH might increase as well!)

For me it's worth it though as I like the games at 3Dice and I am heartily sick and tired of a lot of the insane HV stuff that's being churned out by many providers these days, as well as the increasingly widespread gimping of RTPs.
 

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3Dice have recently gone crypto only, even on the IOM I can no longer deposit using Neteller/Skrill/EcoPayz.

EcoPayz was the last to go and Anna at 3Dice confirmed they'd been told by EcoPayz they wouldn't service them any longer because of the Curacao licence.

As such I ventured into the world of crypto and set myself up a Coinbase wallet, so now to deposit to 3Dice I buy some BCH and add it to my Coinbase wallet, and then transfer it over to 3Dice using a QRCode and the app on my phone.

I'm intending to make a video about it for my channel as it was quite the faff to get the Coinbase account setup and verified, but once it was all done it works OK in honesty, and I've been able to deposit to 3Dice using crypto without issue.

My point here is that if someone in the UK were to VPN in to 3Dice (from a non-UK IP to get around the geolocation blocking) and deposit using crypto, I think they'd be OK.

One thing I will note is there are fees on the Coinbase side, and crypto is so wildly volatile that the value of your 'investment' will fluctuate in realtime in front of you in the Coinbase app as you process the deposit, plus the blockchain itself can take a fair few minutes to validate the deposit.

To end up with £100 of playable funds in 3Dice, I reckon you'd be looking at a spend of around £105 to cover fees and potential 'investment loss' in the few minutes it might take to get your deposit processed, so it's not without issue. (Although theoretically the value of your BCH might increase as well!)

For me it's worth it though as I like the games at 3Dice and I am heartily sick and tired of a lot of the insane HV stuff that's being churned out by many providers these days, as well as the increasingly widespread gimping of RTPs.

They do not just do cyrpto. They also have a few vouchers you can use. Flexepin for example. I think that is for Canadian market though. But you can buy a Canadian Flexepin voucher from a website which I will not name and you just use a Canadian VPN Server and then login to your 3dice account and click cashier - Flexepin and then enter the code into the box.

I am in the UK and I was able to use Flexepin, Anna said using a VPN was fine.

I did stop playing there again though so they might have removed it as an option. I have not logged in and checked for a few months now!

@Deeplay - If you made an account before the days the UKGC was born then you would still be able to play at 3dice. They still allow UK players who already have an account to still play there. They just do not allow new UK players to register!
 
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