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Nifty29

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hehe again you the online Casino worlds long life defender!

a simple way to test is when you spin and hit some big wins , your luck immediately runs out...how come?

Well simple.. it means the spins know u had hit on one of the previous spins a good win combination.. based on that it will tighten so you give back most if not all of what you won.

Omg!

You've convinced me! I feel so stupid!

How long ago did YOU stop playing?
 

mrmark21

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Omg!

You've convinced me! I feel so stupid!

How long ago did YOU stop playing?

Nifty asks a good question, how long ago did you stop playing? Some members accuse MG of cheating and then continue playing. Why would anyone play software they believe is rigged?
 

vinylweatherman

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This is my theory, they payout or they don't. Like a doomswitch it's off or on. So I just need to know when to play and shoot for the moon. Had my biggest win on the first Wed. of the month, was up 10k at that casino so it's not rigged. Has anyone tried fun play to test how the payout is before switching to real money mode?, Or is that rigged too? 32 Red claims their fun play mode uses the same RNG and server as real money mode. I've played enough poker to know in the long run-online RNG's are most def. rigged (Call it variance, an RNG is programmed by man- therefore not really random- the coders and programmers are the only ones who know). Every time I have a good run off the start, to be followed by bad beats to even the money out-never failed. What I've learned is take the money and run, even if it's a small win-a cash out is good for a deposit another day. If it's a big win cash out and close your account- I've made enough donations to verify this playtech and MG. After a big win-stone cold. Why donate money when you can play somewhere else.:cool:, cheers.

Just because something isn't 100% random doesn't make it rigged. Online casinos use pseudo-random number generation, but the algorithm is so good that there isn't much difference between it's output and a true RNG. Where online casino software has been busted for being rigged, the RNG has not been involved, it has been about rigging the mappings between RNG outputs and game results.

Provided you can trust the software's integrity, it does not matter what RNG feeds it, you will get a fair result over the long term.

If anything, believing that the outcomes might not be entirely random gives a little spice to the activity, as one might like to trust "that feeling" that a slot or casino is hotter than the rest.

For me, my BEST paying casino happens to be 32Red, along with All Jackpots and Lucky Nugget. Oddly enough, my WORST paying casino, La Vida, is part of Red Flush group (Red Gaming). My third worst, All Slots, is a sister to one of my top 3 best payers.

I also find that a "worse paying" casino can suddenly soar right to the top of my list after a big hit. A big hit that could have pseudo randomly occurred at any casino.

If an online casino really did have games that ran to cycles that could be mathematically calculated from past events - I would KICK THEIR ASS!!! (Along with quite a few other clever players).

If a land casino deliberately rigged roulette to favour the quadrant with the zero, it may get them more money from most players, but the clever would spot it and start betting on that quadrant, and if the bias was big enough, this would beat the casino. In fact, most casinos are shit scared of having a bias on a Roulette wheel for this very reason.
 

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Thanks VWM that's similar to what I had originally thought :) Not rigged just pseudo-random, IMPO maybe a little compensated as well ;)
 

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vinylweatherman said:
Just because something isn't 100% random doesn't make it rigged. Online casinos use pseudo-random number generation, but the algorithm is so good that there isn't much difference between it's output and a true RNG. Where online casino software has been busted for being rigged, the RNG has not been involved, it has been about rigging the mappings between RNG outputs and game results.

Maybe you heard about Finsoft scam? what was that if not rigged...

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/finsoft-spielo-g2-games-issue.54475/

PRNG is not the same as RNG ...
If they use PRNG then there are maybe 3 seeds, low return, medium return and high return %. based on that the slots change seeds.. this way when u win they move to low return.. which sucks dry ur credits, when u loose for long run they change to medium or high etc.. thats just a guess based on what u said

but then again 99.99% of online slots are not 100% random ..
 

RikkiGT-R

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I've lost more at 32Red (and maybe RedBet) than any other casino(s). I've also had my biggest single win on 32Red (well over £1k), and my biggest x bet win (2002x) at RedBet.
I just put it all down to bad luck swings and good luck swings, nothing more.

Once I realised I had lost about £2k in total at RedBet, I politely PMd Andy here and requested my account be closed. He's a top bloke btw and if I ever decide to go back it'll be based mainly on his treatment of me.
I keep my 32Red account open though because where else would I get a better solely MG-powered casino? Nowhere.

I certainly wouldn't start a thread moaning about losing on a casino. That's like complaining you opened a pot of red pain and found that it was red, then going to B&Q and complaining about it :lolup:
You're going to lose at a casino no matter which one it is, in the long run (aside from the very few lucky ones who hit massive life changing wins).

If that's hard to accept, I recommend these guys:

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akrus88

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hehe again you the online Casino worlds long life defender!

a simple way to test is when you spin and hit some big wins , your luck immediately runs out...how come?

Well simple.. it means the spins know u had hit on one of the previous spins a good win combination.. based on that it will tighten so you give back most if not all of what you won.

Have u never heard that the RTP of those slot machines are under 100%?? If you dont hit big win, or feature etc. RTP will run for example somewhere around 70-80%. So is it a big surprise that your bankroll will eventually run to zero.

I have had big wins on a row. After that it has useally started playing normally around that 80%. Sometimes it has played 120% and I have made some nice withdraw.

You must understand that slot base game does not work in RTP of 100%, not even close to that.
 

Nifty29

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Maybe you heard about Finsoft scam? what was that if not rigged...

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/finsoft-spielo-g2-games-issue.54475/

PRNG is not the same as RNG ...
If they use PRNG then there are maybe 3 seeds, low return, medium return and high return %. based on that the slots change seeds.. this way when u win they move to low return.. which sucks dry ur credits, when u loose for long run they change to medium or high etc.. thats just a guess based on what u said

but then again 99.99% of online slots are not 100% random ..

What exactly were you "coding for 15+ years"?

Morse messages for the merchant navy?

Honestly. You really have no understanding of slot function at all. The fact that you're comparing the finsoft thing to this thread is a dead giveaway.

I'm the lifelong defender of facts.
 

Markus_Demon

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What exactly were you "coding for 15+ years"?

Morse messages for the merchant navy?

Honestly. You really have no understanding of slot function at all. The fact that you're comparing the finsoft thing to this thread is a dead giveaway.

I'm the lifelong defender of facts.

just owning a fruit mchine 40 years ago doesnt make you an expert on the field? As long as there is RTP %, a guy behind who code and corporations who benefite, there is no way they make an online slot machine 100% random.

remember its business at the end its not th player they give advantage to ;)
 

Nifty29

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just owning a fruit mchine 40 years ago doesnt make you an expert on the field? As long as there is RTP %, a guy behind who code and corporations who benefite, there is no way they make an online slot machine 100% random.

remember its business at the end its not th player they give advantage to ;)

You just sank your own ship with one huge torpedo.

We are NOT talking about AWPs here.....they are completely different animals. Nobody is disputing how fruities work.

If owning a fruitie in the early 70's is your ace in the hole, it explains why your posts are so way off the mark.

When did you stop playing at online casinos? I missed that post.
 

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