32Red hmmm

Tirilej

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Okey, but it's one new every day, but I suspect todays is not that good....but there is one;)
 

ChillBill

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We often hear, that there is a lot more screenshots from a new slot, just released, and after 2 weeks, when the "new" effect slows down, and less people play the slot the number of screenshots drop. Yes....they do, simply because less spins are made on the slot, hence there won't be as many big wins. It's NOT because they "lower the RTP", or any other mumbo jumbo, that some people seem to think...it's simply because less spins are made, so less big wins will be won.

MGS has pulled out of the US, France, Spain, and South Africa, not sure where else? That amounts to a hell of lot less players playing MGS slots.

less spins are made on the slot, hence there won't be as many big wins"

If less people are playing each slot, which amounts to less spins, not withstanding new slots are released most months, increasing the overall number of available slots to play, wouldn't this be a prime example of why some people are claiming MGS software doesn't hit as good or often as it used to. Given as you say, more spins increases the chance of obtaining more big wins?
 

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INMHO I find micro gaming casinos are the same wherever you play. Admittedly I only play at 32red at the moment & haven't played any other MG casinos for a number of years. But in the past I found the games all behaved pretty much the same across all MG casinos. The only difference I did notice was different table game limits, which I think is the only thing a MG casino has any control over, but not paytables etc.
I don't think 32red have any control over the game results, even if they did I don't believe they would do any rigging, they're just not that sort of operator.

The only people who really know the truth about whether a software is truly random are the software providers themselves. I believe MG is fair, it can definitely be streaky at times, but I've noticed streaky behaviour on all casino software. If the wizard of odds (I love that name) says it's fair that's good enough for me.

I try not to worry too much about it anymore. I sort of feel if you believe something is rigged don't keep playing there. There's a lot of choice out there. I believe 32red results are fair. But I do just play with small amounts of money I can afford to lose, so just shrug my shoulders if I do get a bad beat & forget about it, & grin like the chesire cat if I do win, have in the past bought samplers & music equipment with winnings, although I could have also eventually got these things through saving, but I do enjoy gambling sometimes, think everyone does & it is fun if you stay in control & don't go chasing after your losses or expect a big win. It is really important to treat it as it is, gambling, the house edge is against you whether a game is truly random or not, the house edge is always there, ultimately the casino always wins. Only spend money you have spare & treat it as a bit of fun, it just isn't worth getting stressed about. If it isn't fun anymore just stop & walk away.

Everyone plays to win, but that isn't always going to happen. Also don't keep playing the same game if it's paying badly, that will just put you in a bad mood, better to switch to something else. In my experience nothing is ever due, & a game will not turnaround.

Don't really understand what rtp means though, these are just my current thoughts & philosophy about gambling, find it helps me stay in control and enjoy it, but everyone's different. I used to be the complete opposite a few years back & it ended badly, & when you get frustrated and angry & lose too much money you start blaming everyone but yourself, at the end of the day it is you who makes the decision to spin & risk some money in the hope of winning more. And we all have to live with the choices we make whether good or bad.
 

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sparkz,what do you mean when you say blackjack has the worst odds ever? As far as i can see their payouts are the same as any other casino.Or do you mean that your hands continually bust or that the dealer will usually hit 21 against your 20's.

That was basically it with BJ.

I can recall most of the time I played BJ it would finish off my balance without any doubt. Almost all of the time that was how things panned out. I had saved 1 of my session logs from blackjack as I was so appalled:

$100 in. 10 hands played a $10 a hand:

1) ME = 13 Dealer = BJ
2) ME 17 Dealer = BJ
3) ME 20 Dealer 21 (with 5 cards)
4) ME 13, hit and bust, dealer had 17 anyway
5) ME 20, Split, 20 and 20. Dealer 21 from several cards
6) ME BJ, Dealer BJ
7) ME 18, Dealer BJ
8) ME bust from poor cards
9) ME 20, Dealer 20
10) ME bust
11) ME 20, Dealer 21

That surf safari was another tight as hell slot, across all deposits I must of done 1000 or more spins and never hit the bonus round. In general though, all the slots gave the same result, the feeling of lack of playtime. I, like many only gamble for fun, yes I would like to win but if I dont I would expect a good, fun session,

I have played at many other MG casinos and have found them to be not even half as bad. The reason i kept playing at 32red however was due to a lot of good comments, fast payouts and great support.

A few friends I know recently opened accounts at 32red, did deposits and things went the same way for them, as someone said to me it was the worst odds they have seen at any casino.

Since posting I have terminated my account, and will never be going back
 
Have to agree with OP.

Joined 32red yesterday for the first time - it was one of the very few online casinos I did not belong to, and figured I may as well give it a try.
Deposited £500 and played in the style that I usually do everywhere else I play, which is £1.20-£2.50 rolls on slots. Played a few different slots at 32red and not only found the play mind-numbingly boring, the RTP was absolutely appalling. Literally hundreds of spins played with not even a tiny win or bonus feature. I ended up getting so bored I just cashed out what was left of my £500. No excitement or thrill of features, long long spells of absolutely nothing happening at all on the reels, rather would have watched paint dry. Not seen anything as bad as this before anywhere I've played. Not going back there.
 

deepsky2

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The main reason I play at 32Red group like many others is there positive feed back they get on here,fast pay outs and there customer service but I have to be honest I have had my worst play time with them. Although only once I went threw a week of many small wins.

I do play alot of other MG casinos and even though I go threw a bad session I always get good ones but with 32Red group and playing there now well over a year I can really say I rarely get good playing time, never have come close to withdrawls like I have had with other casinos, my deposit bottom out way to fast.

This is my experience and I know alot of loyal fans will always praise 32Red and I will continue playing at the group
as they are certainly well deserve of the rewards they recieve but with experience I rarly get any playtime with my deposits and rarly get enough to withdrawl compared to other casinos I play. Compared to others my deposit go way to fast and poor and depressing play time with 32Red. Again this is my experience I have had with the group so please dont throw eggs at me:D
 

xxshepxx

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My rtp at 32red has been great this past year

Im not a big player

£1250 deposits £2500 withdrawal's

I cant complain.
 

sparkz

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Hey Sparkz,

I am more than 10K down this year (32red only)

Lost 600 today and even more a couple of days ago.

I've had my account closed but because of the fast payouts and great support i've decided to play there again.
Their support is great but what does it help me when i am going to lose most of the time ? Doesn't matter if i play smaller or hight bets it's always the same. Today i played several slots and it looked like they are all cold.

'Your payout for todays’ session is 78.32% and for Fighting Fish is 75.94%'

I don't even wanna know my payout ratio for isis or breakaway lol
Since January i deposited more than 44K and yet i am still waiting for the x1000 hit ;D

I know i shouldn't complain because i had my account closed and then started playing there again but hey they are a great casino and it really hurts to stop playing there :(

Anyway i started to play Riverbelle more often which is also a great Casino,Bossmedia,Dublinbet(Roulette) and recovered some of my losses :)

I can agree too much, again I guess that was the reason I carried on there, thinking its time I deserved a win and knowing they have super fast payouts (which is rare these days at casino's)

But if every single deposit = a loss, with no profit whatsoever, something certainly isnt right.

As my original post said, I was at the point with 32red where I would deposit and expect to lose every single time, A small % of me thought its my turn to profit...surely.... but alas the deposit would barely give me any playtime and wouldnt even break into profit a bit.


Everything cant be blamed on "bad luck", yes I understand losing streaks and bad luck, been gambling for nearly 10 years so I have had a few, but to have constant losing streaks and see many other people mention having the same thing makes me realise that its more a thing of tightness rather than bad luck

It is a shame like you say as everything else has the potential of being a great casino.... But personally I cant waste money playing to lose every time and having no fun out of it
 

sparkz

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Don't really understand what rtp means though, these are just my current thoughts & philosophy about gambling, find it helps me stay in control and enjoy it, but everyone's different. I used to be the complete opposite a few years back & it ended badly, & when you get frustrated and angry & lose too much money you start blaming everyone but yourself, at the end of the day it is you who makes the decision to spin & risk some money in the hope of winning more. And we all have to live with the choices we make whether good or bad.

I wasnt debating that in my 1st post.. I chose to gamble what I could afford, I lost.

Before I deposit and gamble at the majority of casinos, I expect either a win, or to have some fun playtime.

32red became neither fun because there was barely any playtime with my deposits, nor was I winning.

RTP should always be checked per session when playing because effectively it shows if your session was good or bad and how tight it was.

We all know if you deposit... as the odds are stacked against you, weather you play for 2 hours or 2 days with that deposit, no matter how generous it seems to be, eventually there will be a loss and you will lose the whole balance.

RTP is based on how much you have spun. For example you deposit $100, do 100 $1 bets, the slot pays $80 in total back to you total in those spins... The RTP would be 80%.

The more you spin, the more you lose. If a slot was spinning at 80% RTP, and you did the above example.... That would mean $20 down. Whilst if you had wagered $1000 you would be $400 down.

Theres more to it than that (like when a slot drains money, but then boosts you around a certain amount for a while, whilst you havent profited, there have been wins that add to the RTP making it closer to 100%).

If the RTP for a specific slot after a persons session is found to be running around 97% based on what they were paid out of winning spins it pretty much means they didnt win, but they had a very good, long session. Whilst to profit on a single slot, in a single session the total RTP after the session would exceed 100% (i.e more paid out than what they put in)

For quite a few of my sessions at 32red I was even told by staff when I asked, that the RTP for those sessions were only 40% or under. From a % that low you can tell it means no profit and barely any game time.
 

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Ive tried the flash casino for a change, had a few nice sessions trying some of the games only available on flash, was something different for me and didnt get drawn to the same ol slots. Had a handful of busted deposits prior to mixing it up.
 

souldragon

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32R ED

That was basically it with BJ.
.yed BJ it would finish off my balance without any doubt. Almost all of the time that was how things panned out. I had saved 1 of my session logs from blackjack as I was so appalled:

$100 in. 10 hands played a $10 a hand:

1) ME = 13 Dealer = BJ
2) ME 17 Dealer = BJ
3) ME 20 Dealer 21 (with 5 cards)
4) ME 13, hit and bust, dealer had 17 anyway
5) ME 20, Split, 20 and 20. Dealer 21 from several cards
6) ME BJ, Dealer BJ
7) ME 18, Dealer BJ
8) ME bust from poor cards
9) ME 20, Dealer 20
10) ME bust
11) ME 20, Dealer 21

That surf safari was another tight as hell slot, across all deposits I must of done 1000 or more spins and never hit the bonus round. In general though, all the slots gave the same result, the feeling of lack of playtime. I, like many only gamble for fun, yes I would like to win but if I dont I would expect a good, fun session,

I have played at many other MG casinos and have found them to be not even half as bad. The reason i kept playing at 32red however was due to a lot of good comments, fast payouts and great support.

A few friends I know recently opened accounts at 32red, did deposits and things went the same way for them, as someone said to me it was the worst odds they have seen at any casino.

Since posting I have terminated my account, and will never be going back

Yes i must admit to similar results on BJ.I play perfect basic strategy but in numerous attempts i have never managed to come out ahead.They are a great casino in terms of customer support and this is just my twopenneth,i am sure others will report more positive experiences
 

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Anybody got any good tips for games on 32 Red , Im going to give it a go as i like the sound of the payout time :)
 

Tirilej

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Anybody got any good tips for games on 32 Red , Im going to give it a go as i like the sound of the payout time :)

It's the same games there as in all other Microgaming casinos. If you have never played at one you might should start by trying the games for fun;)
I also did a little mini-search just for you, and found this thread. Maybe in there you can see some of the games people are playing.
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/whats-your-fav-casinos-slots-why.53599/
:D
 

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Spin Palace, Share, Red Flush- Rec. MG casinos based on my payout experiance

I've played many MG casinos, they are streaky. I don't know why but at some I win consistantly and some I lose say 10 deposits then quit. My best MG casinos for payout are Spin Palace, Share, and Red Flush. Worst-the rest including 32 Red. My opinion I'll stay where its fun and entertaining without killing my bankroll.
 

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I've played many MG casinos, they are streaky. I don't know why but at some I win consistantly and some I lose say 10 deposits then quit. My best MG casinos for payout are Spin Palace, Share, and Red Flush. Worst-the rest including 32 Red. My opinion I'll stay where its fun and entertaining without killing my bankroll.

I think that's just the random number generators being random. You win some, You loose some... I'm personally not a big fan of MG and consider the randomness of their games to be more pseudorandom. I've had my best experience at 32 Red, they are a great bunch of people and I'm only a little bit down there. MG itself is a totally different matter :)
 

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I think that's just the random number generators being random. You win some You loose some... I'm personally not a big fan of MG and consider the randomness of their games to be more pseudorandom. I've had my best experience at 32 Red, they are a great bunch of people and I'm only a little bit down there. MG itself is a totally different matter :)

as a coder with 15 years+ experience i can tell you one thing! There is not such a thing as random on online casino world! trust me.

every sping has histroy of previous one (ones)
 

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as a coder with 15 years+ experience i can tell you one thing! There is not such a thing as random on online casino world! trust me.

every sping has histroy of previous one (ones)

LOL. OK.

Care to provide evidence to support this amazing revelation?

I mean, other than "I've been a coder for 15+ years".

Its obvious that a program can remember whatever it likes, and generate results accordingly. It does NOT mean that online casinos USE such programs. Its like saying "roulette wheels can be tampered with".....of course they can. It doesn't mean that they ARE.

I assume you no longer play online or on land, given that everything is rigged?

I don't know what's wrong with people today. Must be World Tinfoil Hat Week.
 

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THE DOOMSWITCH

This is my theory, they payout or they don't. Like a doomswitch it's off or on. So I just need to know when to play and shoot for the moon. Had my biggest win on the first Wed. of the month, was up 10k at that casino so it's not rigged. Has anyone tried fun play to test how the payout is before switching to real money mode?, Or is that rigged too? 32 Red claims their fun play mode uses the same RNG and server as real money mode. I've played enough poker to know in the long run-online RNG's are most def. rigged (Call it variance, an RNG is programmed by man- therefore not really random- the coders and programmers are the only ones who know). Every time I have a good run off the start, to be followed by bad beats to even the money out-never failed. What I've learned is take the money and run, even if it's a small win-a cash out is good for a deposit another day. If it's a big win cash out and close your account- I've made enough donations to verify this playtech and MG. After a big win-stone cold. Why donate money when you can play somewhere else.:cool:, cheers.
 

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The coders and programmers are the only ones who know

You've hit the nail on the head. Pretty sure there's no "doomswitch" though...

I've had my best luck at 32 Red. Plus the customer service there's excellent. I've been on a loosing streak for some time now with MG so have just about given up.

I play Microgaming (and RTG) purely for entertainment. I much prefer Netent, Playtech, and WMS. When a software isn't working for you switch to another :)
 

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LOL. OK.

Care to provide evidence to support this amazing revelation?

I mean, other than "I've been a coder for 15+ years".

Its obvious that a program can remember whatever it likes, and generate results accordingly. It does NOT mean that online casinos USE such programs. Its like saying "roulette wheels can be tampered with".....of course they can. It doesn't mean that they ARE.

I assume you no longer play online or on land, given that everything is rigged?

I don't know what's wrong with people today. Must be World Tinfoil Hat Week.

hehe again you the online Casino worlds long life defender!

a simple way to test is when you spin and hit some big wins , your luck immediately runs out...how come?

Well simple.. it means the spins know u had hit on one of the previous spins a good win combination.. based on that it will tighten so you give back most if not all of what you won.
 

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A simple way to test is when you spin and hit some big wins , your luck immediately runs out...how come?

Well simple.. it means the spins know u had hit on one of the previous spins a good win combination.. based on that it will tighten so you give back most if not all of what you won.

I think you're talking about the loosing streaks? ;)
 
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