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32Red - good one Ed!
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Vesuvio said:
Yup this is it. Meaning absolutely no disrespect here V, but if someone had asked me to place a life-or-death bet based on the way you post, I'd have said you probably leaned towards it. I'm simply saying that to illustrate my point that the anonymity afforded by the Internet can be very misleading, and potentially very dangerous
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Let's not hurl personal abuses against other forum members. As long as posters really beleive the casinos/operators have done a good job,let the praises flow in. They do no harm,do they? If you disagree, you disagree and you can state that. There are times when I feel that casinos are undeserving of the praise lavished on them but that is my personal opinion and I keep it to myself unless there are facts to substantiate my thoughts. Belittling others' opinions just because of disagreement doesnt hold with me.
Well, we might rename this thread altogether eg 31 BLACK -Lousy one dude.
Would that make some people happier?
Well, we might rename this thread altogether eg 31 BLACK -Lousy one dude.
Would that make some people happier?
chuchu59 said:
We'll be able to achieve a lot more working as a unit too in situations like those that have arisen recently. That's not to say we can't have different opinions, but showing some respect, taking those of others onboard and providing a constructive critique at the end of an issue will benefit everyone far more than arguing ever will.
There's room for both negative and positive opinions, provided they are constructively represented. But accusations can never be constructive. Let's not forget that there are a number of influential people including journalists and industry-respected figures who browse this forum and who could, perhaps silently, be of great assistance if they feel the cause and its benefactors are worthy of support.
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Ning. A quality guy and a former esteemed colleague of mine at Ladbrokes.
Kudos Ning!
Love em or hate em
Yikes! It seems you either love or hate 32 red. I haven't played enough there to say either way, just opened an account, haven't had anything to try and cash out yet - which in my opinion is the REAL test of an honest site-, but I know they must be trustworthy from all I have read and of course the Meister's recommendation. But this thread certainly brought out some feisty comments.
Yikes! It seems you either love or hate 32 red. I haven't played enough there to say either way, just opened an account, haven't had anything to try and cash out yet - which in my opinion is the REAL test of an honest site-, but I know they must be trustworthy from all I have read and of course the Meister's recommendation. But this thread certainly brought out some feisty comments.
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Darem1 said:But this thread certainly brought out some feisty comments.
Stick around Darem, it only gets better, lol.
Blah, blah, blah... whatever
Hahaa!
Well, Pat gave me nice gift because my feedback / delay (he was so busy)
And first time, ever... i turn my gift to 1100 Euro!!! ...and who flushed that... well... PAT!!!
So, plese continue.... if you still have some complaints
And like i said before... well, if you don't like subject, etc.... then Skip it!!!
And this is only my own opinion. So live with that
Meanwhile - Big Thanks to Ed and Pat and to whole 32Red team.
32Red - Only MG casino, where i play
soflat said:
Hahaa!
Well, Pat gave me nice gift because my feedback / delay (he was so busy)
And first time, ever... i turn my gift to 1100 Euro!!! ...and who flushed that... well... PAT!!!
So, plese continue.... if you still have some complaints
And like i said before... well, if you don't like subject, etc.... then Skip it!!!
And this is only my own opinion. So live with that
Meanwhile - Big Thanks to Ed and Pat and to whole 32Red team.
32Red - Only MG casino, where i play
Shame
To me it truly is a shame when one cannot make a positive comment about an organization based on their own perspectives without opening up a "can of worms". Unfortunately, we seem to now live in a world that loves to put a negative spin on everything. Just look at some of the news reports in this day and age. What happen to a good old fashion " Pat on the back " for a job well done? I assure you I have no agenda in positioning 32 Red only in a positive light, but when all of my experiences with this casino have been positive, why shy away from providing a Kudos' or "Thanks". Since when did these become such "ugly" words? I for one grow tired of constant negativity. Sure there are plenty of problems and issues to be resolved through this forum, but you don't have to "rain on every parade" that comes along. Allow credit where credit is due and go about your business. Please, please, let the few of us left that enjoy some good news once in a while to have our fun as well.
To me it truly is a shame when one cannot make a positive comment about an organization based on their own perspectives without opening up a "can of worms". Unfortunately, we seem to now live in a world that loves to put a negative spin on everything. Just look at some of the news reports in this day and age. What happen to a good old fashion " Pat on the back " for a job well done? I assure you I have no agenda in positioning 32 Red only in a positive light, but when all of my experiences with this casino have been positive, why shy away from providing a Kudos' or "Thanks". Since when did these become such "ugly" words? I for one grow tired of constant negativity. Sure there are plenty of problems and issues to be resolved through this forum, but you don't have to "rain on every parade" that comes along. Allow credit where credit is due and go about your business. Please, please, let the few of us left that enjoy some good news once in a while to have our fun as well.
The bottom line for me when it comes to 32Red is that they are involved with their clients. I have never before had a CEO or anyone even close to that level PM me or give a rats a$$ what I think. I have been personally congratulated for a big win and even (as a medium roller) let into Club Rouge. I currently am exclusively playing at 32Red for these reasons. Do I win a lot there? Not usually, in fact my butt has been supremely kicked the last two months. But it is not the casino operation that is doing that. I know they are on the up & up and my luck will come back to me some day (real real soon I hope!) That is my two cents for what it is worth.
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I've been going back-and-forth on whether I should make this next post... but screw-it, because I think it needs to be said. I feel like I may be jumping off a cliff with this one.
To be clear, 32Red deserves all the praise that it gets. To the best of my knowledge, it is first and foremost the #1 casino at trying to keep it's players happy. Literally, almost everything that they do is correct. If they were being graded in a wide-spectrum of categories, they'd probably score lots of 100%'s by comparison to everything else that is out there. They are the standard.
People should be able to talk about their great experiences, and reveal why this casino is so good and why it'll continue to be so good. 32Red is the pinnacle of MG operations, and most of us would point to them first if someone new coming along wanted to know which casino to start with.
It's safe and secure, and you won't be cheated.
Done.
What bothers me though, and has done so for the past few months, has absolutely nothing to do with 32Red the operation. What I do find irritating though, is this knee-jerk reaction to every time someone will make a negative post about 32Red. Now, lots of the negative posts are probably uncalled for. I concur with that. I don't necessarily care for them either.
But I can certainly understand why others would feel alienated by the fall-in-line attitude that has become a bi-weekly adventure here. I get the sense that if you don't love 32Red, you're somehow perceived as a bit off-kilter or jaded. You can like other casinos, but you're out of the inner-circle if you don't constantly support them, or recognize how great they are. I like 32Red as most of us do, but I don't like mob-mentality, good or bad that seems to stem from these type of threads. I've supported them at this forum more than I have for any other operation (circa '05), and they've warranted what I had said in those posts. I take nothing back.
You see, 32Red is a frickin' JUGGERNAUT. Nothing is going to slow it down. Nothing. If I had to invest in one casino, this would be the one. It would be a smart investment to be sure. Again, I know that it's the pinnacle of casinos at the present time carried on into the future. A majority of us here know and have realized this for some time now. For the life of me, I can't understand why it needs to be reinforced as much as it has been. The point has been understood eons ago. I actually find these threads embarrassing (not by "Trezz's" opening statements, but how they always become what they become after the replies start coming through). To be clear again, I'm not talking about the praise, but I am talking about the common reaction to the negative posts. You can see the play developing before it even happens.
32Red, despite what some may believe, won't be hurt by these negative posts or threads. They're constantly in the spotlight, and good or bad attention gets them in the people's minds. And if you look at the past 20 "32Red" threads, you'll clearly see that those who've favored and recommended 32Red greatly outnumber the naysayers. Each time a thread like this goes up and gets on the negative vs. positive track, I'd guess (only guess) that there are always a solid number of new customers (new forum members) via here that will be joining them based on all the positive feedback.
How can they be hurt? Two or three negative posts are frequently followed by 3 or 4 times the amount throwing it under a positive light. Honestly, which newcomer is really going to come away from any of these threads thinking that 32Red is not one of the best online casinos around? No one needs to sound the alarm when these negative posts go up. Every great operation in any form of business will take fair and unfair criticism. 32Red is so far away from being in a position where they're left vulnerable.
This next part might seem out of place, but to me, it ties in with what I'm talking about...
I didn't and don't care for how many people having been attacking "Spearmaster" over the past few weeks, regardless of your stance on the issue at hand. I think most of us, irrespective of our views on that particular thread, certainly are (or should be) humane enough to gauge that attacking the very being of that person is wrong. That same mindset in many ways should carry over here, by that we don't need to constantly gang-up on someone if their entitled opinions don't reflect our own. There's nothing wrong with subjectivity, and this post is targeted to all parties.
Steed
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I've been going back-and-forth on whether I should make this next post... but screw-it, because I think it needs to be said. I feel like I may be jumping off a cliff with this one.
To be clear, 32Red deserves all the praise that it gets. To the best of my knowledge, it is first and foremost the #1 casino at trying to keep it's players happy. Literally, almost everything that they do is correct. If they were being graded in a wide-spectrum of categories, they'd probably score lots of 100%'s by comparison to everything else that is out there. They are the standard.
People should be able to talk about their great experiences, and reveal why this casino is so good and why it'll continue to be so good. 32Red is the pinnacle of MG operations, and most of us would point to them first if someone new coming along wanted to know which casino to start with.
It's safe and secure, and you won't be cheated.
Done.
What bothers me though, and has done so for the past few months, has absolutely nothing to do with 32Red the operation. What I do find irritating though, is this knee-jerk reaction to every time someone will make a negative post about 32Red. Now, lots of the negative posts are probably uncalled for. I concur with that. I don't necessarily care for them either.
But I can certainly understand why others would feel alienated by the fall-in-line attitude that has become a bi-weekly adventure here. I get the sense that if you don't love 32Red, you're somehow perceived as a bit off-kilter or jaded. You can like other casinos, but you're out of the inner-circle if you don't constantly support them, or recognize how great they are. I like 32Red as most of us do, but I don't like mob-mentality, good or bad that seems to stem from these type of threads. I've supported them at this forum more than I have for any other operation (circa '05), and they've warranted what I had said in those posts. I take nothing back.
You see, 32Red is a frickin' JUGGERNAUT. Nothing is going to slow it down. Nothing. If I had to invest in one casino, this would be the one. It would be a smart investment to be sure. Again, I know that it's the pinnacle of casinos at the present time carried on into the future. A majority of us here know and have realized this for some time now. For the life of me, I can't understand why it needs to be reinforced as much as it has been. The point has been understood eons ago. I actually find these threads embarrassing (not by "Trezz's" opening statements, but how they always become what they become after the replies start coming through). To be clear again, I'm not talking about the praise, but I am talking about the common reaction to the negative posts. You can see the play developing before it even happens.
32Red, despite what some may believe, won't be hurt by these negative posts or threads. They're constantly in the spotlight, and good or bad attention gets them in the people's minds. And if you look at the past 20 "32Red" threads, you'll clearly see that those who've favored and recommended 32Red greatly outnumber the naysayers. Each time a thread like this goes up and gets on the negative vs. positive track, I'd guess (only guess) that there are always a solid number of new customers (new forum members) via here that will be joining them based on all the positive feedback.
How can they be hurt? Two or three negative posts are frequently followed by 3 or 4 times the amount throwing it under a positive light. Honestly, which newcomer is really going to come away from any of these threads thinking that 32Red is not one of the best online casinos around? No one needs to sound the alarm when these negative posts go up. Every great operation in any form of business will take fair and unfair criticism. 32Red is so far away from being in a position where they're left vulnerable.
This next part might seem out of place, but to me, it ties in with what I'm talking about...
I didn't and don't care for how many people having been attacking "Spearmaster" over the past few weeks, regardless of your stance on the issue at hand. I think most of us, irrespective of our views on that particular thread, certainly are (or should be) humane enough to gauge that attacking the very being of that person is wrong. That same mindset in many ways should carry over here, by that we don't need to constantly gang-up on someone if their entitled opinions don't reflect our own. There's nothing wrong with subjectivity, and this post is targeted to all parties.
Steed
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Hi Steed,
I think most posters can live with negative posts on 32 RED but it does seem that some are being unduly harsh on the members who says anything good about this casino. If you say that 32 RED is underserving of some of the praises, that's fine with me but stating that this thread is of little importance/significance shows disrespect for the member who initiated it. This would apply to kudos to just any casino. If a member thinks its worthwhile to post it,let him/her do so. If anyone disagrees, fine but no one should belittle another for initiating such comments/threads. Disrespectfulness,IMO.
I think most posters can live with negative posts on 32 RED but it does seem that some are being unduly harsh on the members who says anything good about this casino. If you say that 32 RED is underserving of some of the praises, that's fine with me but stating that this thread is of little importance/significance shows disrespect for the member who initiated it. This would apply to kudos to just any casino. If a member thinks its worthwhile to post it,let him/her do so. If anyone disagrees, fine but no one should belittle another for initiating such comments/threads. Disrespectfulness,IMO.
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chuchu59
Hi "chuchu59,"
I'm not saying that in the least. Not at all. I've never agreed with the method of those who elect to come in with little tact and coyly rip another forum member. I don't have any problem with praise that's deserved, and if someone wants to credit a casino and it's operators, that's their prerogative and they should be allowed to state what it means to them.
I just happen to think that all of the hoopla that routinely follows those negative posts are a bit overdone at this point. We all know that someone's going to jump-in and make a comment that won't sit well with those that are pro-32Red. The play breaks-down the exact same way each and every time it happens. There's absolutely nothing surprising about it anymore, so why is there still so much reaction whenever it does happen? Are these jabs, comments, honest opinions really altering other's opinions on how good (or not) 32Red is? No. I don't even know why those who aren't crazy about 32Red slip in a dissenting post in these threads. If anything, it'll have the exact opposite effect that they would have wanted, by that 32Red will bring on more clients and win over more people who pass through these threads. It becomes nothing more than positive reinforcement at this point. The whole thing has become redundant.
On whichever side of the fence that person and his/her issues is on, I too don't like it when members are being disrespectful to make a point (if that's what they're really trying to do).
Steed
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chuchu59
Hi "chuchu59,"
I'm not saying that in the least. Not at all. I've never agreed with the method of those who elect to come in with little tact and coyly rip another forum member. I don't have any problem with praise that's deserved, and if someone wants to credit a casino and it's operators, that's their prerogative and they should be allowed to state what it means to them.
I just happen to think that all of the hoopla that routinely follows those negative posts are a bit overdone at this point. We all know that someone's going to jump-in and make a comment that won't sit well with those that are pro-32Red. The play breaks-down the exact same way each and every time it happens. There's absolutely nothing surprising about it anymore, so why is there still so much reaction whenever it does happen? Are these jabs, comments, honest opinions really altering other's opinions on how good (or not) 32Red is? No. I don't even know why those who aren't crazy about 32Red slip in a dissenting post in these threads. If anything, it'll have the exact opposite effect that they would have wanted, by that 32Red will bring on more clients and win over more people who pass through these threads. It becomes nothing more than positive reinforcement at this point. The whole thing has become redundant.
On whichever side of the fence that person and his/her issues is on, I too don't like it when members are being disrespectful to make a point (if that's what they're really trying to do).
Steed
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Allright!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am getting to damn lazy to read all these posts but I got one thing to say.
Sure Ed checking the forum on a sunday dont sound like much. Which it really isnt. But what other casino would do it???
Enough Said
I am getting to damn lazy to read all these posts but I got one thing to say.
Sure Ed checking the forum on a sunday dont sound like much. Which it really isnt. But what other casino would do it???
Enough Said
Steed, I'm with you on the inevitability of these threads. I was the first "to slip in a dissenting post", but how long could a thread starting like this possibly go without someone commenting that it was just ever so slightly odd, not to say amusing? I should explain I didn't feel the slightest animus against 32Red (a good casino, if that's not an oxymoronjohnsteed said:
) or the OP.Then of course that just opened the floodgates for the positive crowd to complain (some negativity there, surely?) about not being able to praise 32Red in peace, not the anyone was actually saying they couldn't (is suggesting browsing a forum at the weekend is a weak basis for praise such a shocking opinion?). In fact, the most curious thing about this thread is that no-one actually posted anything negative about 32Red, despite all the sound and fury to the contrary.
As you'll have guessed my first post didn't have the "exact opposite effect" from the one I wanted. I've no interest in persuading or dissuading anyone from playing at 32Red. I'd generally advise anyone to stay away from this industry, but if it's too late for that there are much worse places to play.
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Vesuvio said:
thank you, I thought I was losing my marbles and reread the post several times trying to find these negative comments against 32red, but just could not see them.
my sanity has been restored
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The Best Defence Is A Good Offence If You Have A Good Team?
Humm must be something in the winds coming!!!
Duke
Humm must be something in the winds coming!!!
Duke
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Guys..
We really need to let this thread die, or Ed will have to spend the whole weekend reading it through.
We really need to let this thread die, or Ed will have to spend the whole weekend reading it through.
32Red Quick Payout
I recently won some money at 32red and the money was in my account the very next day. I can't say much for their machines lately on payback. I do think they have been very tight. I also wish they would give better comps for VIP player level playing. But that is true of most online casinos. If you want to be truly comped for VIP play you will have to go to a land base casino.
I recently won some money at 32red and the money was in my account the very next day. I can't say much for their machines lately on payback. I do think they have been very tight. I also wish they would give better comps for VIP player level playing. But that is true of most online casinos. If you want to be truly comped for VIP play you will have to go to a land base casino.
Just a question
I see two posts about 32Reds payouts over the last few months. Who else has noticed that the payouts are scare to non-existent since about early March 2006? Don't kill me because I love 32Red from a service perspective. No one can touch their service.
They are A#1 in service but to me the payouts have been scarce and honestly non-existent for several months now. And I'm talking about higher rollers...not just here and there.
Just a question...especially since I see this post and another one claiming the same thing. Has anyone else realized a drop in wins, or is it just me and my bad luck? Somehow given the amount I'm playing I'm thinking I'm not alone.
For all you 32Red lovers (even myself as one) forgive me...but I just have to ask to see if there is any pattern.
venetian said:
I see two posts about 32Reds payouts over the last few months. Who else has noticed that the payouts are scare to non-existent since about early March 2006? Don't kill me because I love 32Red from a service perspective. No one can touch their service.
They are A#1 in service but to me the payouts have been scarce and honestly non-existent for several months now. And I'm talking about higher rollers...not just here and there.
Just a question...especially since I see this post and another one claiming the same thing. Has anyone else realized a drop in wins, or is it just me and my bad luck? Somehow given the amount I'm playing I'm thinking I'm not alone.
For all you 32Red lovers (even myself as one) forgive me...but I just have to ask to see if there is any pattern.
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