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Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by KasinoKing, Apr 7, 2006.

    Apr 7, 2006
  1. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    Anyone else noticed the sharp rise in bonus WR's at 32Red in April?

    The monthly $50 bonus WR has gone up from x30 to x40
    The Slots only S.U.B. WR has gone up from (D+B)x20 to x25
    And the 'all games' S.U.B. WR up from (D+B)x30 to x50! :eek:

    This now makes them one of the most unattractive MG's to join on the net.
    Maybe they're happy with the number of players they already have... :confused:
     
  2. Apr 7, 2006
  3. GrandMaster

    GrandMaster Ueber Meister CAG

    Occupation:
    Mathematician by day, online gambler by night.
    Location:
    UK
    Indeed. It would have been nice to include in the e-mail that the conditions have changed.
     
  4. Apr 7, 2006
  5. -z-

    -z- Dormant account

    Occupation:
    retired
    Location:
    usa
    Yah, I noticed too when it dropped out of my top 10.

    I guess the feeling is mutual as I didn't get the bonus invite this month =/

    -z-
     
  6. Apr 7, 2006
  7. tennis_balls

    tennis_balls Dormant account

    Occupation:
    fish n chips promoter
    Location:
    Albuquerque, NM
    it may have something to do with their recent stock IPO You must register/login in order to see the link.

    stock was up over 3% today on news that slotmachine doesn't play keno here

    but seriously, it would not be unusual for a casino to try and pump up their numbers with promos prior to going public and then ease back a bit after the stock sale (of course they would never admit to that)

    maybe a smart move to cut back on the promos now so if the US govt manages to take a whack at them, they can crank up the promos for other countries and maintain profits.

    that's my 2 cents.....but if you saw my stock picking performance, you would probably not listen
     
  8. Apr 7, 2006
  9. Slotster!

    Slotster! I predict a riot. CAG

    Occupation:
    al Hazard
    Location:
    Location, Location!
    Over 80% of their customers are UK based - this is what makes it an attractive proposition for me in light of all the US nonsense... I typed up some fundamentals on a thread somewhere else a bit ago.

    Seems strange that they'd change some terms and conditions without telling anyone though...

    Does this affect the Club Rouge match also?...
     
  10. Apr 7, 2006
  11. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator

    Occupation:
    Web Dev.
    Location:
    England
    :lolup: Classic
     
  12. Apr 7, 2006
  13. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Really? I have a screenshot from when I talked with support yesterday confirming that the WR fo the $50 monthly bonus was still $2,000. (20x) I can post it if you want.

    edit: ugh, I have the wrong SS. I just took the one where I confirmed I cleared the WR.
    But it was 'Nick' who confirmed the $2,000 WR for the monthly bonus.
     
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  14. Apr 7, 2006
  15. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    Yes (D+B)x20 = Bx40 = $2,000 - sorry my post was not clear! :p

    I don't know about Club Rouge - not been invited in yet (and not likely to be now! :oops: )
     
  16. Apr 7, 2006
  17. Macgyver

    Macgyver Dormant account PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    North Carolina
    Club Rouge's WR on the $/ 132 match has indeed gone up to $/ 5,000. :eek:
     
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  18. Apr 7, 2006
  19. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania

    Ahhhh ok.....I really doubted that their CS was giving the wrong #'s :thumbsup:
     
  20. Apr 7, 2006
  21. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Club Rouge

    5000 is equivalent to a little under 19x D+B With all Blackjack games allowed this is not unreasonable, although a little harsh on slots players maybe. It used to be around 15x at 3500.

    In comparison, the Intercasino UK monthly match has WR of 25x D+B with Blackjack allowed but WR carried over.

    32Red are probably trying not to be an easy touch for bonus hunters as other casinos tighten terms on wagering. With shares listed, they need to live up to promises made in the prospectus, but don't want to be hit by a swarm of bonus whores and deal with it in the "unprofessional" manner exhibited by some casinos. At 32Red, the bonus is by invitation. An invitation will not come if you "abuse" too many of the monthly matches, but bonuses already granted will not be confiscated by using the "do as we like" clauses.
     
  22. Apr 7, 2006
  23. paul02085

    paul02085 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Mgmt
    Location:
    USA
    Guess they are trying to recoup the money they spent on Casinomeister poker tournys. :D
     
  24. Apr 7, 2006
  25. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    Inter is Bx25 only = (D+B)x12.5

    As the 32Red monthly is by invitation, as you say, I don't see why they had to jack it up for everyone. All they had to do was not give it to the 'abusers'.
    I mostly play slots only at MG's, so (D+B)x15 was already hard for me, x20 makes it not even worth bothering with any more :(
     
  26. Apr 7, 2006
  27. GrandMaster

    GrandMaster Ueber Meister CAG

    Occupation:
    Mathematician by day, online gambler by night.
    Location:
    UK
    It is 25x bonus only, and if you lose half of your own money, the WR is not carried over to the next month.
     
  28. Apr 7, 2006
  29. soflat

    soflat Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Scientist
    Location:
    Florida
    It is not a great bonus anymore. I played quite a bit last month, but stopped when I cleared this month.

    I guess they have good customer service there, but I never had to ask for anything besides the bonus.

    Pretty sure they have enough players at this point. If not then they at least have enough positive publicity.

    I think the door is now open (slightly ajar anyways) for other casinos to claim the throne.
     
  30. Apr 7, 2006
  31. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

    Occupation:
    STILL At Leisure
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Really

    I thought it was always carried.
    I lost the lot last month, so hopefully I will not have to complete the remaining third of the WR this month.
    I also stand corrected, the 25x is on the bonus 50 (1250). The reward at Littlewoods is better at 1000 for the free 50 (Crap CS though).

    Crap CS as in I am still waiting for a reply from management on the problems over Christmas 2005. Each time I phone support, they pass it on as there is nothing they can fix themselves. Communicating directly with "management" is not allowed & there is no rep here. They must excuse me therefore for just playing for the free 50 and the 5 tourneys till I get said reply (or get banned!).

    At least with Intercasino, I can E-mail Jane directly (and get a reply) if I get a problem that CS cannot fix.
     
  32. Apr 8, 2006
  33. paul02085

    paul02085 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Mgmt
    Location:
    USA
    There is no doubt Intercasino has the best monthly bonus IMHO. By a mile.

    32 Red jacking their WR's is not surprising.
     
  34. Apr 8, 2006
  35. caliban

    caliban Dormant account

    Location:
    Europe
    But hey, they're 32RED!

    Caliban
     
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  36. Apr 8, 2006
  37. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    Why do you find it not surprising?
    I find it extremely surprising!

    It's not like Will Hills automatic bonus, 32Red's is by invite only and is supposed to reward loyal players who do not use out and out 'abusing' tactics. The abusers can easily be excluded.
    In January they upped the monthly bonus from $32 to $50, which looked like a conscious effort to encourage more returning loyal players - this latest move looks just the opposite.
    If I take a bonus with low WR I am quite happy to use it in the spirit it is given - playing high risk games like slots, stud, let it ride, etc... and just see how my luck goes.
    But if a bonus has high WR I can understand why players use low-risk tactics - because that's almost the only way to have any chance of winning with it.
    High WR just encourages more 'bonus abuse', not less.
    Just my 2c....
     
  38. Apr 8, 2006
  39. Slotster!

    Slotster! I predict a riot. CAG

    Occupation:
    al Hazard
    Location:
    Location, Location!
    If they're not in Amsterdam this weekend - Hopefully Pat or Ed will pop up with a few comments!...

    I don't think it's a problem for me personally, but I find it surprising!
     

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