32Rant. This is a "I'm done with Microgaming rant."

[skiny]

You know, I had one good week with this software in the last year. Every time I make a deposit it's between 30 and 50 dollars that cost 4 bucks just to make the deposit and it's gone in less than 10 minutes at minimum bet.

This time it's 26 that cost 30 to make. I have nothing to do, I figure I'll low roll for a little while and 7 minutes later I've hit nothing and my balance is zero. It's pointless. If you're lucky once a year you can scrape up a balance high enough to withdraw which might amount to a hundred bucks. 95% of the time I can't get my balance 2 dollars over my starting balance.

They gave me a 25 dollar gift not long ago and that dropped to zero at minimum bet without a bonus feature.

They top up my loyalty points because I've only managed to wager 7500 dollars since the last time I claimed them. That gives me 10 more because you have to wager 10 thousand dollars to claim 10 and at 9 cents per spin without leaving the game it's gone from $12 to zero with one free spin that pays 56 cents. Well, at least out of the 36 dollars at minimum bet I did get the one free spin. Usually I don't even get that.

In fact just typing this has convinced me it's time to call it a day with this software. I'm better off with Palace of Chance. They won't pay if I win but at least they'll give me a thousand percent deposit bonus so I can play for more than 7 or 8 minutes. I'm done with it. I don't expect much from my deposits but a little bit of play time would be nice. Maybe more than 10 minutes at minimum bet. I know this can happen from time to time but it happens way more than it should.

I have 4 different casinos installed on my computer. I'm scratching Microgaming off the list. Maybe I'll replace it with a Netent casino or something.

Merry Christmas 32Red.

And close my account.

 

[premiergaming]

Im likeing Netent at the Moment. Nordic Bet is very good.

 

[Balthazar]

Skiny I deposited there 3 times in the last week, all with bonuses and they even gave me an extra $32 free chips when I asked the CSR to look at my ridiculous RTP. I got no playtime at all in all my sessions, playing minimum bets exclusively. Yesterday I played $107 on 3 different slots @ $0.30/spin and got no feature and a 41% RTP.

I hate to sound like a sore loser and I understand fully that bad sessions will happen, but this was out-of-this-world bad, 3 times in a row with fairly large bankrolls (relative to the bet size).

Not looking forward to deposit more money there.

 

[me_and_ed]

Its not just the casino, I dont deposit that much at 32Red due to the not having my preffered deposit choice (USEMYFUNDS), however I do at another M/G Casino, lost 20k in deposits for a 5mth strecth, no w/d's, in the last 45 days I have withdrawn 17k, not what I spent but for what I have dep'd its big.......no different than Netent, RTG or the rest, its luck, some people seem to have more of it than others (I am not in the lucky category either), doesnt make it any easier to take but it comes and goes.

 

[just play]

Sounds like my RTG play


Why wouldn't you try Netent or Nordic Bet? Is the software not to your liking? Everyone seems to love those two right? I get confused and don't pay much attention to casinos I can't play.

Or why not try a different MG casino?

 

[Balthazar]

Why wouldn't you try Netent or Nordic Bet?

Skiny is Canadian like me and playing NetEnt sucks right now because we have to buy/sell Euros in order to play. Yesterday I bought 50 Euros at Redbet for a whopping $69! If I'd cash out 50 euros I'd probably get like $55 for them. That's a pretty big factor.

 

[leonardo99]

The most of my deposits was at MG casinos..and I have only 1 withdraw at MG for 1 Year (1 week ago).. But I have nice cashouts at PaddyPower, VirginGames, Bet365, RedBet, NordicBet, BetVictor, OffsideBet, Gamebookers.. I prefer casinos who offer a huge collection of slots..from different providers..

 

[skiny]

Sounds like my RTG play


Why wouldn't you try Netent or Nordic Bet? Is the software not to your liking? Everyone seems to love those two right? I get confused and don't pay much attention to casinos I can't play.

Or why not try a different MG casino?

Changing Microgaming casinos would mean I was blaming 32Red. I'm not. Although I do think wagering 10 thousand dollars to get 10 dollars worth of loyalty points is a little excessive. Once in a very long time you'll have a good run with this software. I'm not talking about winning lots of money. I'm talking about getting a fair amount of playtime. The rest of the time it's straight to zero.

At the rate my balance drops I'd need to deposit about 180 dollars an hour just to play at minimum bet.

 

[mimi26]

wow I am having the same with ladbrokes, I kid you not I have not withdrew funds for over 18 months, something else I have noticed is say for instance I deposit 500 pounds in a day when I do get a win it only amounts to what I have staked that day (if you catch my drift) it never goes any higher

 

[dionysus]

Skiny is Canadian like me and playing NetEnt sucks right now because we have to buy/sell Euros in order to play. Yesterday I bought 50 Euros at Redbet for a whopping $69! If I'd cash out 50 euros I'd probably get like $55 for them. That's a pretty big factor.

no you don't, play at nordicbet

 

[chayton]

Skiny is Canadian like me and playing NetEnt sucks right now because we have to buy/sell Euros in order to play. Yesterday I bought 50 Euros at Redbet for a whopping $69! If I'd cash out 50 euros I'd probably get like $55 for them. That's a pretty big factor.

FWIW, My last deposit at RedBet I was able to choose USD for currency under the dropdown list when I deposited with Moneybookers/Skrill.

 

[cdomi66]

Skiny is Canadian like me and playing NetEnt sucks right now because we have to buy/sell Euros in order to play. Yesterday I bought 50 Euros at Redbet for a whopping $69! If I'd cash out 50 euros I'd probably get like $55 for them. That's a pretty big factor.

I play at Nordicbet and deposit/play and withdraw in US funds like alot of my other casinos.

 

[Nifty29]

Skiny

Why all the grandstanding?

If you want 32Red to close you account, email them and be done with it. You don't have to do it in public just for the drama. It's like the "The forum sucks....Close my account!!" posts.....I would have thought you were above that kind of thing TBH.

IMO, from what you post about your play, you're expecting to get hours and hours of playtime for small deposits. Well, it doesn't work like that 99% of the time. In addition, you complain all the time about not being able to make a withdrawal....well, if you're going to deposit $25 or $50 and play .9 or .18c spins, how much are you expecting to win? Even a 1000xbet hit, which is very rare anywhere, will only win you $90 or $180 respectively. The most you can probably expect to win from 18c spins is MAYBE $30-40 on a really good hit, with a very rare $75-100 hit.

I'm not making anything of your low-rolling, except to say that you will almost never reach a cashable amount playing as you do.

Your experience will be the same with other software and other casinos. It's a given.

Instead of blaming the software or 32Red, maybe you should consider your playing style and decide if you want the longest possible play time for your money, OR reasonably regular withdrawals....it's nigh impossible to have both.

You say it's not about 32Red....then why make your thread title "32Rant"? It's a dig at 32Red. Otherwise, you would have made it about MGS.

The Christmas (and every other time of the year) Grinch is alive and well!!

P.S. I'm even more amazed you mention 32Red considering they just gave you a NO WR freebie.

 

[bpb]

I think it's amusing that you think you'll get better results or "play time" on slots somewhere else. Slot machines are designed to eat cash. Doesn't matter whether it's online or live. How on earth do you think your money is going to last on a game with a huge house edge (I refuse to use the casino's term RTP, such a stupid term ...) AND huge variance. Combine the two, and you're looking at a money loser every single time except the odd time that you get extremely lucky.

 

[skiny]

Skiny

Why all the grandstanding?

If you want 32Red to close you account, email them and be done with it. You don't have to do it in public just for the drama. It's like the "The forum sucks....Close my account!!" posts.....I would have thought you were above that kind of thing TBH.

IMO, from what you post about your play, you're expecting to get hours and hours of playtime for small deposits. Well, it doesn't work like that 99% of the time. In addition, you complain all the time about not being able to make a withdrawal....well, if you're going to deposit $25 or $50 and play .9 or .18c spins, how much are you expecting to win? Even a 1000xbet hit, which is very rare anywhere, will only win you $90 or $180 respectively. The most you can probably expect to win from 18c spins is MAYBE $30-40 on a really good hit, with a very rare $75-100 hit.

I'm not making anything of your low-rolling, except to say that you will almost never reach a cashable amount playing as you do.

Your experience will be the same with other software and other casinos. It's a given.

Instead of blaming the software or 32Red, maybe you should consider your playing style and decide if you want the longest possible play time for your money, OR reasonably regular withdrawals....it's nigh impossible to have both.

You say it's not about 32Red....then why make your thread title "32Rant"? It's a dig at 32Red. Otherwise, you would have made it about MGS.

The Christmas (and every other time of the year) Grinch is alive and well!!

P.S. I'm even more amazed you mention 32Red considering they just gave you a NO WR freebie.

I was waiting for you to show up and do your little "don't complain about losing" dance. If anything is a given, it's that.

There is no such thing as a slot game "play style." If I deposit 30 dollars and play 9 cent spins or deposit 300 dollars and play 90 cent spins the percentage I'm winning back should be the same. It's true it's unlikely that a balance will get high enough to withdraw but neither of those deposits should be gone in less than 10 minutes almost every single time. It's rare that I complain about making not withdrawals but we keep getting told this is entertainment. I'm perfectly ok with paying for my entertainment provided I get some. Winning back 20% of your wager once every 5 spins until you're broke isn't entertainment.

I mention 32Red because that is the casino I play at. I also made a point of saying I'm not directly blaming 32Red. And yes, they did give me a 25 dollar freebie. That lasted about 10 minutes at minimum bet without a bonus feature too.

You seem to forget this is a casino based forum. If people come here to show off what they've won, that's fine. If the want to praise the actions of a casino, that's fine. If they want to report the wrong doings of a casino, that's fine and if they want to rant about their bad experiences that is fine too. What most of us don't need is you showing up to dispute it every time someone does. If you don't like reading complaints about casinos or casino software then maybe you should stay out of the complaints section of the forum.

But if you do want to hang around the complaints section and stand up for every casino that's not in the rogue pit be my guest. Just remember who you're talking to. I've been around the block a few times too.

 

[Realitybitez]

Im likeing Netent at the Moment. Nordic Bet is very good.

Lucky for you. In the few months I've mainly played Nordic and lost, lost and lost again. Just about ready to throw it in and go back to MG

 

[mrmark21]

I'm with you on that Skiny.

Microgaming is streaky and patterny. Last few times I've been unable to win a feature to save my life, eerily reminiscent of the beginning of my foray into Microgaming slots.

The games are fun but there's nothing entertaining about constantly pressing the button (or clicking the mouse) without so much as one feature or interval. I'm afraid you will have to use Autospin for that. I'm still depositing because Microgaming has some of the most fun slots available online, just not the best paying. I never play without a bonus and even then the "entertainment" dosent seem to last very long especially at 32 Red. I know all the Microgaming casinos are under the same server but still.

Microgaming has lots of good games although don't expect a big win. I've been playing Playtech for that

 

[dionysus]

I know MGs can suck, but ANY platform can suck.
But I made a nice 1k WD off 50 bucks the past 3 months running, 2 of which were MG

 

[est129]

I have to agree with skiny on this one. Though, 32red group was my main place to deposit, but i am holding back in the last few months. Maybe it's not 32red, maybe it's Microgaming it's self.

The truth (my opinion after hundreds of deposits this year) is that something has changed at MG, and the difference compared to last year is evident.
This maybe not happen to everyone, but we've seen that many players agree and express the same experiences.

Last week i sat down and made a summary of all my deposits/withdrawals at all MG casinos i play at, with an excel document system which i am tracking all my deposits/transactions.

My conclusion is that in 2012, have lost more than i expected at MG and the the huge difference has to do with 32red, but probably that's not the case, since 32red group casinos was my 1st choice to play the most.
The frequency of withdrawals compared to previous years is obviously downward for me. I didn't change play-style, neither my deposit amounts. I just play as always.

I think many of you would agree that we do not mind to lose, but we not manage to play a long time to satisfy our gambling needs. We could loose the same, but leave satisfied after some hours of playtime.

My opinion is that something changed for sure, MG games are more difficult than it was before, but the choice has to do with everyone of us. We choose to play or not.

 

[Nifty29]

I have to agree with skiny on this one. Though, 32red group was my main place to deposit, but i am holding back in the last few months. Maybe it's not 32red, maybe it's Microgaming it's self.

The truth (my opinion after hundreds of deposits this year) is that something has changed at MG, and the difference compared to last year is evident.
This maybe not happen to everyone, but we've seen that many players agree and express the same experiences.

Last week i sat down and made a summary of all my deposits/withdrawals at all MG casinos i play at, with an excel document system which i am tracking all my deposits/transactions.

My conclusion is that in 2012, have lost more than i expected at MG and the the huge difference has to do with 32red, but probably that's not the case, since 32red group casinos was my 1st choice to play the most.
The frequency of withdrawals compared to previous years is obviously downward for me. I didn't change play-style, neither my deposit amounts. I just play as always.

I think many of you would agree that we do not mind to lose, but we not manage to play a long time to satisfy our gambling needs. We could loose the same, but leave satisfied after some hours of playtime.

My opinion is that something changed for sure, MG games are more difficult than it was before, but the choice has to do with everyone of us. We choose to play or not.

So. how do you explain me being ahead of 32Red this year?

Something has changed alright....for the better...if I was to use my personal results as a guide as you have done.

It may not apply to you, but I still say that bankroll management and knowing when to leave etc are THE most important aspects of trying to win. You can have the highest RTP in the world, but without these you may as well be playing a 50% slot.

 

[est129]

So. how do you explain me being ahead of 32Red this year?

Something has changed alright....for the better...if I was to use my personal results as a guide as you have done.

It may not apply to you, but I still say that bankroll management and knowing when to leave etc are THE most important aspects of trying to win. You can have the highest RTP in the world, but without these you may as well be playing a 50% slot.

Yes, you maybe were lucky enough this year and winning, it can happen as well. I just tell that from my point of view that if i deposit 60$ (for example), I can't go more than this, so i don't have the opportunity to know when to leave. Maybe it goes backwards, who knows, you won this year, i will win the next one, that's gambling.

 

[tinybettor]

My experience with 32red and Microgaming in general is similar to yours skiny. I've had deposited over a hundred times across nearly all Microgaming casinos on this site's accredited list. So far after about 5 months, I've had only a handful of withdrawals and the rest deposits that provide abysmal playtime and just no chance of a decent withdrawal. I play minimum bets with a usual deposit of $50, no bonuses. 9 times out of 10 I can never go past my initial balance. The times I do, it is quickly depleted with the same winning bet factor that pushed it over. I try switching to different slots, high variance, low variance, all the same result, a constant run of dry spins that just bleeds my balance. I though maybe I'm just unlucky, but after a dozen deposits in a row with each session being worst than the last, it just makes you wonder; will that win come?, or am just chasing a imaginary dream. Yes of course there are going to be a few winners, which the winner's screenshots thread proves, but just how many losers are there to provide those big wins, and also how just how money did that person lose to hit a winner like that? If the chances of being able to win twice your deposit was only 1% would you still risk your money for that chance, because that is the reality I am experiencing playing at Microgaming.

 

[shanetospin]

You know, I had one good week with this software in the last year. Every time I make a deposit it's between 30 and 50 dollars that cost 4 bucks just to make the deposit and it's gone in less than 10 minutes at minimum bet.

It's been like that for a while now, I agree! MG has no play time in it at all, I've said to 32Red on many occasions that it would not be that bad if you actually got some playtime out of your deposit! But as they say, they don't control the play, they are just at the mercy of MG. Hitting the bonus is harder to hit on 32Red than it is to on Golden Lounge I have found. I have better sessions on there sister casino than the 32Red one and has been like that for timeee. I've been thinking of going back to use Playtech software because I know at least I will get a good session out of it compared to MG.

 

[steveyboy]

i play 3 casinos all mg and on 32red i am up just over 10 grand from jan 1st other two down,its all a matter of luck you make your deposit and press play and pray its nothing to do with the casino you play at just being there at the right time ,i have had some bad days weeks and months but that is what playing the slots is about luck so why blame the casino 32red is the king of casinos as far as i am concerned
i will now stand by for the usual

 

[datch]

Hi,

I had withdrawals in the past two months at 32Red (100€), Dash(175€) and GoldenLounge(145€) with small deposits between 25 and 50€ and Bonus and many hours of playtime.
Last week my withdrawal of 900€ at Vegas Country (CasinoRewards) from a 25€ deposit + 25€ Bonus was processed after one day pending.
So for me everything is great with Microgaming =)
It seems that MG loves me at the moment, but I never had any luck with Netent or Playtech casinos, no matter where I deposit and what I play, Playtech and Netent will never let me win a buck or even give me some playtime, my money is away in minutes...allways.