3 Secret Cities Slot (96.5% RTP) by 4ThePlayer.com

pinnit2014

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If i'm honest, 123Boom put me off the provider a tad - pretty sure if i'd kept a tally of dead spins in a game, that'd have been in my top 3, coupled with the 10 bonus rounds out of 11 of <5x; which, was er, random ;)

I'll try this one when network wide as Leo's a no show
 

Kingks

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It's not that bad I did achieve a 300x on my 3rd bonus but don't expect much with a semi good set up, basegame kept me going with a £50 balance only played once so obviously next try if there is one outcome will bad prob lol
 

helafast

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I have to ask how many spins will it take to get the bonus on average? I'm on the MAX stage and literally the RTP has dropped to about 20%, Just keep redepositing and the great basegame wins from the earlier stages are all gone it seems.
 

4ThePlayer

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I am sorry but I have to be vocal.

This slot is all again about the hype and you are just driving the "Potential max win" down our throats with it all over the place if not in this thread but in the slot too.

I have now done over 3K spins on this slot and I have not won anything over 150X I have also now lost hundreds on it too. It is pure filth the amount of dead spins is horrendous!

You say your company and name is aimed at "4ThePlayer" I find that not true at all. As I never win anything decent on your slots ever. I also have never saw anyone win more than 1000X either.

I have not even saw a YouTube video either on any of your slots.

I like the theme and the graphics but again it fails to deliver and fails to even win anything decent on. So I will be avoiding all your slots from now on. Sorry but They NEVER PAY!
Hi @DreamRJ – we meet again ?

Max win is a standard statistic, as players want to know the potential of the win. It looks like you're in the UK, like us. Have you ever seen The National Lottery advertise and not say what the jackpot is? That’s their ‘max win’, which they show off because their players want to know what could happen.

We mentioned it earlier on the thread, but this is a highly volatile game so you will get the odd inactive spin. If you want a more active game, you might try a less volatile game as you might enjoy it more. As some other members have mentioned, this game has fewer smaller wins and more bigger volatile ones: on the first day of network release, a player won over 4,000X on a €1 spin! However as this is gambling, unfortunately, you can be unlucky too!

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Sorry to hear you do not enjoy our games, not all games are for everyone. Hopefully, you try something else and enjoy it. However, when the fun stops - stop!
 

4ThePlayer

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Just played this for the 1st time.

I like!
Looks good, sounds good and plays decent. I for one like the chunky 20 to 30x base wins every now and again rather than the incessant 0.2x wins.

I feel the balance of the game is very good, and I like the concept of the increasing bonus structure.

One thing I really am not a fan of though. When leaving the bonus it tells me Jungle city id the best chance of a bonus 50% chance in next 33 spins. This smacks of gambling encouragement - you MUST stay on our game. Other than this - i'm a fan!

Excellent stuff (well mostly :))

Hi @Mouse75 , glad you like the game and the balance :)

In terms of the next bonus stat: this is just signposting the next bonus chance. The way BONUS UP works is that the longer you go without a bonus the better it becomes, and when you have had a bonus, you have a better chance of getting another one quickly.

The game will remember your state if you close it, so you don’t need to do the spins all in one go!

We are big advocates of responsible gambling; this is one of the reasons we are so transparent and forthcoming with statistics. It is also the reason we allow 0.10 bets on all our games and offer an RTP that is above the average!
 

4ThePlayer

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I have to ask how many spins will it take to get the bonus on average? I'm on the MAX stage and literally the RTP has dropped to about 20%, Just keep redepositing and the great basegame wins from the earlier stages are all gone it seems.
@helafast , Sorry to hear you have hit an unlucky patch in the jungle! As you progress through the cities the bonus potential increases, but as we’ve said elsewhere this is a highly volatile game so you may occasionally have to wait for a feature.

That said, 3 Secret Cities is not a collection game. We don’t store or save any RTP for later features, so you are always spinning at the same certified 96.5% regardless of where you are in the game. Hopefully your luck changes soon!
 

4ThePlayer

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It's not that bad I did achieve a 300x on my 3rd bonus but don't expect much with a semi good set up, basegame kept me going with a £50 balance only played once so obviously next try if there is one outcome will bad prob lol
@Kingks well done on the 300x win – we hope you continue to enjoy it and good luck on your adventure!
 

DreamRJ

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That said, 3 Secret Cities is not a collection game. We don’t store or save any RTP for later features, so you are always spinning at the same certified 96.5% regardless of where you are in the game. Hopefully your luck changes soon!

BIB - Well that was a bit eye opening. So are you saying there is other providers that do this?
 

dec2008mcl

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BIB - Well that was a bit eye opening. So are you saying there is other providers that do this?
What about the random randomness of the randomy spins? Randomedial randoms are not stored away to randomize spins later, as this would take away from the randomness in the present, for everyone and not just the person the higher rtp randomised spin that was saved for the person in the future.
Are we on the same page mate?
 

4ThePlayer

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BIB - Well that was a bit eye opening. So are you saying there is other providers that do this?

If a game is a collection game, top tip: if you change your stake and progression or items are removed it is, then yes sometimes RTP can be stored or saved for when you unlock these items. This means that unless you collect all the items you might not experience the full RTP or potential, it also means you cannot change your stake to a lower amount, again something we advocate.
 

Mouse75

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That 4000x hit is even more impressive... given that it was his or hers last spin - well before depositing again anyway!

@4ThePlayer thank you for your very informative replies across the board - and on reflection - I understand and agree with your comments

Wish it was as easy to speak to all providers - the personal replies are almost unheard of - keep up the great work
 

4ThePlayer

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That 4000x hit is even more impressive... given that it was his or hers last spin - well before depositing again anyway!

@4ThePlayer thank you for your very informative replies across the board - and on reflection - I understand and agree with your comments

Wish it was as easy to speak to all providers - the personal replies are almost unheard of - keep up the great work

Thank you, it's our pleasure! We love to interact with our players and talk about our games. Glad its appreciated :thumbsup:
 

DreamRJ

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@4ThePlayer - How about you add a leader-board to all your slots, no limit and pragmatic have them and some blueprint slots have them too!

That way we would be able to see what was being won on each of your slots! No Limit have a replay feature too. So you can replay other peoples wins or your own and share that link anywhere too!

We would then get a full understanding of how your slot is actually performing because for me and probably a lot of others are doing very very poorly on your slots. So at least this will give us all a better understanding and will see your slots do in fact pay huge wins out!

Thanks and I hope you can come up with a way to add this feature :)
 

helafast

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@helafast , Sorry to hear you have hit an unlucky patch in the jungle! As you progress through the cities the bonus potential increases, but as we’ve said elsewhere this is a highly volatile game so you may occasionally have to wait for a feature.

That said, 3 Secret Cities is not a collection game. We don’t store or save any RTP for later features, so you are always spinning at the same certified 96.5% regardless of where you are in the game. Hopefully your luck changes soon!


Thanks for the reply and I really do like the game but it seems impossible what this game has turned into once it hit the gold city. $400.00 in deposits betting 1.00 and almost getting 150 spins each time. If this game is not saving RTP, then it totally disappears once in the golden city.

Friend of mine played - once he hit the golden city, it was over 1300 spins before it bonused.
 

4ThePlayer

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Thanks for the reply and I really do like the game but it seems impossible what this game has turned into once it hit the gold city. $400.00 in deposits betting 1.00 and almost getting 150 spins each time. If this game is not saving RTP, then it totally disappears once in the golden city.

Friend of mine played - once he hit the golden city, it was over 1300 spins before it bonused.
No problem @helafast - we try to reply to everyone, regardless of their experience or thoughts as we want to help players understand slots and enjoy our games.

The biggest wins in the game are in Gold City. The good news is that there are several improvements available in Gold City, so your potential bonus does keep getting better as you play. The game also remembers your position so there is no rush to get the bonus.

The game is certified by an independent test house, it's part of the licencing process, so we can assure you the RTP does not disappear.
 

4ThePlayer

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@4ThePlayer - How about you add a leader-board to all your slots, no limit and pragmatic have them and some blueprint slots have them too!

That way we would be able to see what was being won on each of your slots! No Limit have a replay feature too. So you can replay other peoples wins or your own and share that link anywhere too!

We would then get a full understanding of how your slot is actually performing because for me and probably a lot of others are doing very very poorly on your slots. So at least this will give us all a better understanding and will see your slots do in fact pay huge wins out!

Thanks and I hope you can come up with a way to add this feature :)

Good Morning @DreamRJ

Thanks for the leaderboard suggestion - we’ll definitely pass that feedback along to the Relax team as leaderboards are platform functionality - we just focus on making great games! 3 Secret Cities is on the Relax Silver Bullet platform, which doesn’t currently have leaderboards.

That said, we’ve seen a few players sharing nice wins on it so far. You mentioned YouTube - have you seen the Casino Daddy video from Monday?




Our next game will be coming out with Yggdrasil in a few weeks; they have the ‘BRAG’ tool that allows you to replay and share wins, so you’ll be able to share wins in that game from the left-hand side of the screen.
 

helafast

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No problem @helafast - we try to reply to everyone, regardless of their experience or thoughts as we want to help players understand slots and enjoy our games.

The biggest wins in the game are in Gold City. The good news is that there are several improvements available in Gold City, so your potential bonus does keep getting better as you play. The game also remembers your position so there is no rush to get the bonus.

The game is certified by an independent test house, it's part of the licencing process, so we can assure you the RTP does not disappear.
I've been stuck on the MAX 50kX stage for 8 deposits now. I totally believe you that it was tested, just pointing out this is like trying to "pop the hive" on Wild Swarm - except this time, no RTP has been saved.

One quick question, will "1 left Alive" ever be released to all casinos? I've only played it a few times and really liked it - but have not seen it anywhere but on Party Casino.

Thanks!
 

pinnit2014

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Had a go on it the other day, threw in a few 100-200x's, which these days i'm content enough with: held the balance as well for a large chuck of time which was, in todays era, a welcome change.

A big improvement on the last one i played (123Boom) so far.
 

4ThePlayer

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I've been stuck on the MAX 50kX stage for 8 deposits now. I totally believe you that it was tested, just pointing out this is like trying to "pop the hive" on Wild Swarm - except this time, no RTP has been saved.

One quick question, will "1 left Alive" ever be released to all casinos? I've only played it a few times and really liked it - but have not seen it anywhere but on Party Casino.

Thanks!

We hope you have set a deposit limit at your casino of choice and are playing within your limits.

Glad to hear you like 1 Left Alive
:)
It is not exclusive to Party Casino - the game is live across 36 different casinos that have Scientific Gaming. For example Play OJO or Novibet.
 
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4ThePlayer

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Had a go on it the other day, threw in a few 100-200x's, which these days i'm content enough with: held the balance as well for a large chuck of time which was, in todays era, a welcome change.

A big improvement on the last one i played (123Boom) so far.
Glad to hear you are enjoying it and thanks for the compliment :thumbsup:
 

incrediblestuff

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I've been stuck on the MAX 50kX stage for 8 deposits now. I totally believe you that it was tested, just pointing out this is like trying to "pop the hive" on Wild Swarm - except this time, no RTP has been saved.

One quick question, will "1 left Alive" ever be released to all casinos? I've only played it a few times and really liked it - but have not seen it anywhere but on Party Casino.

Thanks!

Already had suppressed the memory but after reading up on the forums and reading this thread, your posts, i remember havingf the exact same run basically...

At one point i really was like, are they serious? Of course i 'justified' my extremely poor session to bad luck, but it completely turned me off from playing it again. That said, i did like the concept, although it's not exactly new..

Edit for clarity: i had about 150 balance, which i worked up to from 25,- on other slots, and it took about 95,- of that on 10 cent bets, to get my first bonus, which was then max stage, but awarded something like 15x6 iirc, and paid 20x-ish..

All i know is i expected to be guaranteed the minimum upgrade of the last city, but i'm sure i didn't get that, which to me defeats the purpose of 'leveling up'..
 
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4ThePlayer

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Already had suppressed the memory but after reading up on the forums and reading this thread, your posts, i remember havingf the exact same run basically...

At one point i really was like, are they serious? Of course i 'justified' my extremely poor session to bad luck, but it completely turned me off from playing it again. That said, i did like the concept, although it's not exactly new..

Edit for clarity: i had about 150 balance, which i worked up to from 25,- on other slots, and it took about 95,- of that on 10 cent bets, to get my first bonus, which was then max stage, but awarded something like 15x6 iirc, and paid 20x-ish..

All i know is i expected to be guaranteed the minimum upgrade of the last city, but i'm sure i didn't get that, which to me defeats the purpose of 'leveling up'..

Good Morning @incrediblestuff

Sorry to hear about your bad luck - as you said sometimes you can be unlucky; hopefully this changes soon and luck comes your way!

Good to hear you like the concept, although the way BonusUp works is totally new ;) No other game has done it like we have; increasing the bonus potential the longer you wait without getting one and increasing the chance of getting a bonus immediately after playing one - all whilst being stake independent and having the same RTP on every spin!
 
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