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$210 session

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by kimss, Aug 4, 2009.

    Aug 4, 2009
  1. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Software developer
    Location:
    Norway
    Just wanted to share a little session with you, make what you will of it. The session starts with a $3 spin on Bulls Eye for a $240 win, initial deposit makes $210 - so We start of with $430 in bank money from spin 24/2825.

    To explain the graph,

    Blue dots are mean result pr 10 spins, the blue curve is a bezier curve on the same data giving the overall trend as a line.

    The green dots are actual bet size, and the red curve is the bank.
    (Note the bank is never above $240, since it's counting from $0 ignoring what I actually depositied. However on the other end you will get the max losing - meaning the total deposit)

    Some 2500 spins and highest win is x50.

    My 2009 bank statement is much better than previous years, and this year I'm only 2K down which is a more than good enough result for me. (just wanted to put that in for those that remember me from before and wonder about such things, :)

    For those that don't understand the mean bet, it means that if I wagered $1 on each bet, I would in this session end with -$780 (left X-axis).
     
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  2. Aug 4, 2009
  3. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Software developer
    Location:
    Norway
    Here is 2009 on the same account by the way, Microgaming. This is some 93.000 spins worth. Same system as above.

    You do see that it's not accualle easy to win here, :)
     
  4. Aug 5, 2009
  5. RobWin

    RobWin closed account

    Occupation:
    Who knows?
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    A Vault!
    Nice graph Kimss, but what happens when you apply the Green's Theorem and in this case the more general Stokes Theorem and then you mix in a little Foucault social philosophy along with a coherent and timeless block of knowledge, a kind of tool-box which others can rummage through to find a tool which they can use however they wish, but in this case most of the peeps here would be just as well off to try and figure out solutions to Jackson's Electrodynamics problems..:D:thumbsup:
     
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  6. Aug 5, 2009
  7. Pinababy69

    Pinababy69 RIP Lisa

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    Crusader
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    Toronto, Ontario - Canada
    Ha ha ha Rob....best laugh I've had in a couple of days. :laugh: :thumbsup:

    Hey Kimss.....I'm guessing that what I'm supposed to get from that is that your gameplay went nowhere but on a downward spiral, is that it? I don't completely understand it...but it doesn't look good.
     
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  8. Aug 5, 2009
  9. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Software developer
    Location:
    Norway
    Well, there isn't a point to the graph really. Theese are just the raw facts which you may make what you will from, :) If there was anything to make of this I would have won - which I do not - so it really boils down to simple numbers. Due to the posting restrictions on PNG images I cannot post a bigger zoom of the graph (I could make it 10 meters long for better enjoying the ups and downs).

    Surely there are trends, however it seems impossible to take advantage of them. Looking at bulks of 2000 spins it's more apparent. However, I would believe that if it were possible, I would have figured it out by now, :D

    So just the raw facts today from one of my accounts, I guess not many people dig to much into the data like I do. If you do - this is what you see, :)
     
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  10. Aug 5, 2009
  11. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Software developer
    Location:
    Norway
    What is important however, is that you should be very aware that you DO need those 100x wins here and there. The graph attached is the same 93.000 spins ignoring 100x and bigger wins.

    I should note however, i's really no point in adding theese graphs with so much data since the X axis becomes to compressed (to many spins to see the variance in the graph). The overall trend, we are already aware of.
     
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  12. Aug 5, 2009
  13. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Software developer
    Location:
    Norway
    Some more stats for the stats minded, again - based on realtime gameplay for real money. (I know I'm on overtime now, however this is pure therapy for me, lol)

    The attached graph are the amount of spins between each 100x win.

    The raw data in numbers if you like to graph yourself (1/749 spins):
    264,526,218,2813,62,99,131,119,285,3272,62,416,31,329,1293,2445,3804,124,177,304,743,116,1582,287,670,
    1047,27,164,292,2705,34,489,405,88,492,610,1483,669,589,158,221,1355,45,191,2272,294,1005,139,600,677,
    336,236,2136,277,239,71,68,196,41,1710,121,322,151,3851,169,200,1106,376,303,509,704,581,971,1057,104,
    828,304,977,2585,2152,726,1762,265,2243,744,246,1241,232,397,735,1280,316,1053,65,1921,1345,155,191,6,1785,
    2031,189,130,596,30,854

    Same 93.000 dataset, between each 50x win (1/288):
    264,8,421,99,106,6,108,282,526,164,404,590,395,360,99,62,99,131,119,285,111,142,886,395,1441,
    302,62,416,31,329,469,435,391,298,18,200,5,154,416,758,520,84,510,849,540,468,38,1,4,357,
    483,490,74,124,177,58,131,117,94,650,66,51,1333,18,233,284,4,670,187,278,404,181,27,109,56,
    138,136,10,11,1704,1002,34,15,280,47,150,290,116,88,161,24,309,324,213,75,21,719,296,450,44,
    626,34,193,364,67,92,140,82,321,13,202,822,45,191,668,1050,244,313,294,104,226,477,201,139,65,
    336,201,457,60,162,336,52,156,30,133,1,631,113,81,6,362,816,277,226,14,71,68,196,41,34,
    16,64,815,387,167,233,121,193,130,65,87,878,324,919,371,220,640,505,133,37,200,66,537,505,99,
    256,23,284,20,458,52,95,610,378,30,175,792,180,971,87,104,155,148,527,304,35,122,96,172,556,
    67,175,646,185,267,260,621,153,219,303,453,67,33,194,313,795,423,304,130,85,130,296,30,302,380,
    416,265,231,199,545,933,339,462,283,246,419,463,361,232,397,163,46,528,1058,223,316,490,88,220,258,
    56,10,240,20,384,489,744,49,20,1052,275,155,191,6,520,472,486,310,1153,440,440,189,130,596,30,
    683,172,131,364,791

    And finally for each 25x win (1/125):
    37,228,8,131,105,187,60,40,106,6,108,282,526,31,134,112,52,242,492,99,1,24,215,158,66,
    2,16,112,168,1,99,62,99,5,127,119,258,28,68,44,142,205,129,554,103,293,85,379,271,709,
    1,90,21,82,35,78,62,416,31,234,65,32,170,129,172,42,54,53,289,339,53,204,95,18,62,
    23,28,90,5,25,54,16,62,416,126,261,49,277,30,20,17,283,222,22,63,257,188,18,50,425,
    7,419,540,29,10,60,44,120,1,210,38,1,4,93,61,205,52,229,14,43,149,81,63,115,234,
    74,25,85,16,118,46,15,58,71,61,45,73,41,54,118,245,63,227,44,23,4,8,41,627,123,
    378,182,27,18,18,202,15,1,1,94,191,4,422,63,46,124,19,187,138,141,404,181,27,22,88,
    56,82,57,114,23,10,11,202,102,27,140,308,107,325,7,198,76,215,8,486,125,59,51,225,30,
    32,34,15,33,89,65,96,47,150,195,96,116,88,35,127,24,66,244,44,97,185,213,75,21,108,
    398,215,46,251,174,277,37,8,462,165,34,93,101,308,23,35,67,92,49,92,12,71,123,172,28,
    8,6,11,192,489,101,113,122,45,58,6,129,16,331,323,158,178,328,319,71,244,313,145,150,104,
    226,220,249,10,13,189,79,61,63,3,20,23,282,14,201,427,31,60,130,33,336,52,23,98,37,
    30,133,1,1,67,304,20,22,222,36,78,81,6,155,47,9,154,173,65,226,93,159,88,18,202,
    76,60,167,14,47,25,68,5,192,8,27,8,26,9,16,20,4,42,281,27,387,61,63,104,217,
    68,167,174,60,121,193,75,41,16,65,87,75,381,424,81,29,100,62,56,265,285,48,28,297,266,
    106,13,208,277,309,56,21,485,69,65,37,152,45,5,66,537,378,128,23,77,256,1,18,6,284,
    20,86,373,52,85,11,610,378,3,9,20,43,133,303,407,84,82,99,294,308,34,186,153,87,14,
    91,117,29,11,148,273,161,95,97,208,35,8,31,85,96,172,169,53,336,67,173,3,28,64,315,
    242,185,267,211,41,10,69,368,186,114,40,9,211,132,119,54,25,223,20,128,61,67,33,194,77,
    57,181,5,132,660,423,85,158,38,26,61,70,85,130,232,23,43,30,302,178,68,46,91,195,222,
    142,62,63,231,9,53,139,47,85,35,381,76,337,357,77,90,239,101,462,84,197,4,246,261,159,
    143,321,18,17,23,306,45,77,76,37,153,245,105,59,46,71,25,233,72,71,61,27,897,136,223,
    165,12,141,367,48,77,2,87,2,219,1,52,181,27,56,10,240,1,20,225,63,98,307,162,22,
    24,47,415,247,15,49,20,117,798,139,180,28,3,38,30,8,95,54,89,6,98,6,6,442,27,
    48,52,421,262,210,16,66,245,548,146,159,209,95,74,168,62,19,72,50,2,31,159,80,172,89,
    101,86,45,120,406,72,30,42,5,12,203,170,256,155,18,131,104,261,82,136,19,248,310,71,203,
    340,137
     
    Last edited: Aug 5, 2009
  14. Aug 6, 2009
  15. DiamondGeezer

    DiamondGeezer Dormant account PABnononaccred2 PABnoaccred PABaccred

    Occupation:
    Antiques Dealer
    Location:
    NOT Pennsylvania!!!
    Hello Kmiss!

    That graph with the balls in post 6 is like a piece of conceptual art. It would not look out of place in a trendy London gallery. Maybe you is the next Damien Hirst :).
     
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  16. Aug 6, 2009
  17. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Software developer
    Location:
    Norway
    LOL! You already know it, I have the software...Just pull the playcheck data and you get your own beautiful graph, :D Nice to see people enjoying the playcheck data!
     
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  18. Aug 6, 2009
  19. silkprint

    silkprint Dormant account

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    Yup ...I work
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    Mass
    I don't know what I am looking at but it sure is purdy :D
     
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  20. Aug 6, 2009
  21. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Software developer
    Location:
    Norway
    Do you not know what you are looking at? Enlighten me, do ask me a question regarding the graphs and I will answer you, :) If you do not understand what you are seeing, use your own words and I will try and explain.
     
  22. Aug 6, 2009
  23. deucebag

    deucebag Experienced Member PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABaccred

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    cyberspace
    These are collected data from different MG slots right, not just one? Would be more interested to see a graph by slot. ;)
     
  24. Aug 6, 2009
  25. zebedy

    zebedy No!!!! Im Spartacus MM webmeister

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    well if this can win the turner prize i think kmiss stands a great chance :D,
     
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  26. Aug 6, 2009
  27. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

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    Software developer
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    Norway
    No, this is the data from one casino - all spins. Why would I want to pollute the data?
     
  28. Aug 6, 2009
  29. deucebag

    deucebag Experienced Member PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABaccred

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    Engineer
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    Same casino, but also the same slot? If so which slot?
     
  30. Aug 7, 2009
  31. kimss

    kimss Senior Member

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    Software developer
    Location:
    Norway
    This is the total returns/payout/wins for all spins, on all slots.
     

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