2000 on hold in VC Casino, what to do?

Arutha

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Has anyone got any advice for me? Recently through a combination of feeling pigheadedly invulnerable and a few cans of beer, I ended up chasing Blackjack losses to the point I stupidly put on a 2000 bet, which I could just about afford:eek2:, but that's my savings gone. I got 11 whist the dealer got a 4 :what:. Naturally the "right" thing to do is Double it but I can't really afford to outlay another 2K. I figure that there must be some way though to make some form of deal with somebody where they take the proceeds of the double part, (risk and reward) whilst I take the original bet part. I then get some kind of premium from the double. Unfortunately I have no idea how to contact someone who may be interested, not sure what a fair premium would be (maybe 100?), or how to make sure that both sides know the deal is on the level. If it comes down to it I'll have to just Hit, but what a waste.

So anybody got any hints on how to proceed?
 

kmay87

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Wow.

You want one of us to part with 2k to a new member for a blackjack bet? Simply because of the stupidity of this post I would love to nominate it. But I'm not going to.

Who's to say you double and get an ace, or any other card for that matter. The dealer could still hit 21.

I've got some hints for you. You're chasing losses, you placing bets you can't afford to make. "Naturally the right thing to do" is to not do it in the first place if you can't afford it. Especially as your profile lists you as 'unemployed'. Seriously, these are bad times for getting jobs. Blowing silly money on gambling is not good. Quit now is all I'm going to say. Those are bad signs.

As are coming to us with preposterous requests. Even if this post made my night :D
 
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Pinababy69

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It's not April 1st yet is it? :eek:
 

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love2winalot

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Don't tell me how to play..............hehe, :cool:

First off, to the OP, even if you wanted to transfer 2k more of your own money into your account, i do not see how you could do it, and still keep the same HAND at BJ active?

Next, Unless you have a Video Cam, that can be turned around to point at the Screen, it would be really hard to PROVE you lost the bet.
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Splitting, and being able to double down is how you make money at BJ. If you make a bet, that will prevent you from being able to do this, then either you bet to much, or your bankroll was to small. HIT, as there is no other option.
 

vegetagirl2008

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You wasted 2 grand you wasted 5 minutes writing this post. What I suggest you do is cash out and never return and that is all the money you have that is so sad I really think you need to see someone right away. You know that saying bet with your head and not over it. Sheesh when do people ever learn..
 

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Giving the OP the benefit of the doubt:

We're all gamblers here, but what we consider gambling is a calculated risk. Seeing as how you've just joined, I seriously doubt anyone is going to take you up on this "offer." Your request is similar to me going up to a stranger on the street and asking the same request of them.

Why would you want someone to take half of your action? What happens if the deal did go down and you got an ace, and the dealer pulled a 17 out of their hat? Now instead of being 2000 down, you're down 2100.

(again, see the first sentence of my post)

You, my friend, are addicted to gambling. The first sign of this ugly demon rears its head in the form of chasing losses. Drunk or not, this is the underlying issue. The second form comes into the play with the "I can't lose!" mentality. You just assume that the next card will be a 10, giving you 21, the dealer will bust out, and everyone lives happily ever after. Before you start shaking your head, I've been there, so I know what I'm talking about.

My advice? Play out the hand like you normally would, but without doubling. Then, win or lose, STOP.

If you go down losing, at least then you won't be dragging anyone else with you.
 

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spank that hit button - then walk win or loose. Never ever ever chase losses. I have done this and it dont work. Take a break for a while. Either way good luck hope you hit 21 :thumbsup:
 

thelawnet

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Giving the OP the benefit of the doubt:

We're all gamblers here, but what we consider gambling is a calculated risk. Seeing as how you've just joined, I seriously doubt anyone is going to take you up on this "offer." Your request is similar to me going up to a stranger on the street and asking the same request of them.

Indeed the problem.

Why would you want someone to take half of your action? What happens if the deal did go down and you got an ace, and the dealer pulled a 17 out of their hat? Now instead of being 2000 down, you're down 2100.

Nope, he wants to sell the double part for 100, so he'd be down 1900.

My advice? Play out the hand like you normally would, but without doubling. Then, win or lose, STOP.

Actually what he's doing is seeking to reduce his risk. Which is good. By doubling with somebody else's money, there's less risk than by hitting. Obviously the trust issue is the problem however, but the principle is good.

It's not clear what cards the OP got, either 9/2, 8/3, 7/4, or 6/5. This affects things a little. Worst case is obviously 9/2, because the 9 is gone (double or hit, 11 vs 4 is always going to be only 1 card taken, so 10 is best, followed by 9, 8, 7, 6, with 5,4,3,2,a all equally bad).

The player's EV is 570-582 depending on his hand composition. If he doubles, that would be 1140-1164.

So he could sell the action to a prop better for anything up to 582 possibly. A sale at 300 would be a very good deal for the buyer - he'd have 15% edge, but obviously the OP has zero credibility, so it's a bad idea for that reason.
 

Arutha

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In case anybody who read the thread cares,

I got a friend of my Dad's who likes betting on the horses but has never come closer to Blackjack than playing Pontoon in a pub to take the double for 100.

It didn't look good when I got a 6, but a 9 and a Q later and I'm 2100 up, my Dad's mate is 1900 up and Victor got a spanking.:D

I think I'll give it a miss from now on though, there are no decent bonuses to be had anywhere.
 

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Hi,

It is unfortunate that you did not have sufficient funds to place the bet you desired.

It is against the casinos ethics for you to be pooling your funds and would not allow it no matter how pretty a picture you paint.



:lolup::lolup::lolup:
 

thelawnet

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Hi,

It is unfortunate that you did not have sufficient funds to place the bet you desired.

It is against the casinos ethics for you to be pooling your funds and would not allow it no matter how pretty a picture you paint.

:lolup::lolup::lolup:

What people do with their money outside of the casino is not the casino's concern.
 

winbig

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I think I'll give it a miss from now on though, there are no decent bonuses to be had anywhere.


I think you have more to worry about than bonuses.

as anyone got any advice for me? Recently through a combination of feeling pigheadedly invulnerable and a few cans of beer, I ended up chasing Blackjack losses to the point I stupidly put on a 2000 bet, which I could just about afford, but that's my savings gone.
 

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I missed this thread completely but frankly I dont believe a single word from the OP. He was asking for someone to chip in 2K and he only wanted 100 as a reward. Normally that would be an incentive but he already has 2K engaged in the game and should have concentrated on that instead. From being drunk and betting 2K to being sober enough to try and gain a measly 5%of his outlay, I really have my doubts on this one.
 

winbig

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yea, now that I re-read it, I find it hard to believe that you gave him the whole 2000 for 100 (20:1? Where can I sign up???) of action....
 

vinylweatherman

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I missed this thread completely but frankly I don't believe a single word from the OP. He was asking for someone to chip in 2K and he only wanted 100 as a reward. Normally that would be an incentive but he already has 2K engaged in the game and should have concentrated on that instead. From being drunk and betting 2K to being sober enough to try and gain a measly 5%of his outlay, I really have my doubts on this one.

Well, he was advised to simply "hit" rather than "double" and hopefully retrieve $2000. It seems he was in so deep that he needed to risk the double, yet it seems this only yielded him an extra $100, yet looked like a right pain in the a*** to set up. Furthermore, he risked the casino taking exception to him "selling the action" to another player, which could have resulted in his account being flagged, and a possible dispute over payment.

Since this was his savings gone, I am a little puzzled as to how he could access SAVINGS so quickly and place them into a casino, all whilst under the influence of alcohol. Unlike normal bank accounts, there is usually a delay in moving savings to where they can be deposited into a casino, especially in such volumes as $2000 in one go. I can easily deposit lumps of 2000 into ACCREDITED casinos, but my BANK cards will flag & decline such large deposits, and I would have to phone them, or them phone me, before they would unblock the card. This would again introduce a delay, or "cooling off period" into the process.

The OP, having retrieved his savings, should now deposit them somewhere where they are DAMN HARD TO GET AT, so that this alcohol induced frenzy cannot recur.
 

kmay87

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If this did go the way you said, then 'well done'...if that is the appropriate statement.

But surely in hindsight you have to realise what a ridiculous offer your initial post was. Personally, even if one of the longstanding members of this forum - with no disrepect to them - made the same offer, I wouldn't have considered it. Partly because I would expect them to possess common sense, and secondly, because if I so desired to play blackjack at 2000 hands, I would do so without needing other members to present me with such an offer.

As Vinyl said, you seriously need to think about how easily you can access your accounts if drunkenness made you place a 2 grand bet.
 

tonyg82

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If this did go the way you said, then 'well done'...if that is the appropriate statement.

But surely in hindsight you have to realise what a ridiculous offer your initial post was. Personally, even if one of the longstanding members of this forum - with no disrepect to them - made the same offer, I wouldn't have considered it. Partly because I would expect them to possess common sense, and secondly, because if I so desired to play blackjack at 2000 hands, I would do so without needing other members to present me with such an offer.

As Vinyl said, you seriously need to think about how easily you can access your accounts if drunkenness made you place a 2 grand bet.

ridiculous offer? :confused: lol. He was offering about 400 of expected value there. If you play casinos you more than likely take -EV nearly all the time. So this was one of the best ever offers most people are likely to come accross. If I had a bit bigger float and I met the guy I would have done it.

Think about what u saying before you start having a go at the guy
 
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