13 October 2008

[Casinomeister]

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EIG CAP Barcelona
Defining a Rogue
Dance Contest

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[RobWin]

Cool vid Bryan...

 

[cynthial]

hahahahahahahhahahahhah

Great video. Two of the guys who work here were walking past when you were dancing and they stopped and said "what the hell are you watching" and I said "oh nothing, just some nut jub dancing on you tube".

Still smiling.

 

[kakata]

some people do love theyr job.....lol

You surely are a rogue dancer.

 

[jas2587]

enjoyed it Bryan

lol $30 in prices

couch an speaker looked good behind ya


Cindy

 

[jas2587]

bryan was kinda hoping to hear a bit more about
Montel Williams is he stuck up movie star way?
Does he drink booze?
etc etc

Cindy

 

[Casinomeister]

Montel and I had a really nice conversation. You can read about it in the Barcelona special ed:
https://www.casinomeister.com/static/newsletter/2008/7october2008_eig.html

He is in no way stuck up. Very down to earth and easy to talk with. It's like you've always known him...

We were drinking coffee. Booze? Don't know. It never entered into the conversation.

 

[jas2587]

Montel and I had a really nice conversation. You can read about it in the Barcelona special ed:
https://www.casinomeister.com/static/newsletter/2008/7october2008_eig.html

He is in no way stuck up. Very down to earth and easy to talk with. It's like you've always known him...

We were drinking coffee. Booze? Don't know. It never entered into the conversation.

Thanks Bryan for answering now I am off to read lol

Cindy

 

[mojo]

Nevermind. Dumb post, Regardless, I loved the webcast.

 

[zebedy]

how many beers did you drink before struting your stuff

 

[Casinomeister]

how many beers did you drink before struting your stuff

One.

 

[bonustreak]

Loved the clip! I was thinking it would be cool to see you and Greedy on dancing with the stars, hmmm speak to Montel and see if that can happen will ya

 

[vinylweatherman]

I am belatedly catching up on the webcasts, but THIS one has been "banned", or rather the AUDIO track has, because it has not been authorised

All I can do is watch a silent movie

It's a DRM infringement it seems, in that some of the audio contains copyright infringing content (it's what is says in the "about" section as to how copyright infringement is defined).

 

[unicorn40]

NOTICE This video contains an audio track that has not been authorised by WMG. The audio has been disabled. More about copyright

Thats what i get too.......no sound......I'm hoping to hear it soon though.....

 

[Casinomeister]

Well that's a load of crap. Maybe it's the 45 seconds worth of the Ramones at the end where I introduce the dance contest.

Or perhaps it's the Elmer Fudd sound bite

Both of these should fall under the fair use clause - nevertheless, I'm uploading a copy here in Meisterland. I'll let you know when this is done.

 

[Casinomeister]

I was right:

Your video, Casinomeister - 14 October 2008, may have audio content from Pinhead by Ramones that is owned or licensed by WMG..

I guess I should have added a commentary at the end discussing the meaning of Pinhead - then it would be considered "fairuse"

 

[maxd]

Jeez, copyright Nazis or what?!? Guess I had better stop humming that Hendrix song I have in my head since seeing 'Watchmen'.

 

[zebedy]

it maybe because of this,

Google Inc. said Monday it will block U.K. users from watching music videos on its popular video-sharing site YouTube after negotiations with Britain's music royalty-collecting body broke down.

Google said it would begin blocking British users starting Monday night. The Internet titan said it knew the move would cause "significant disappointment."

But it said its hand was forced by PRS for Music, which it said is asking for royalties that would cause Google to lose money every time a video was played on YouTube.

"Our previous license from PRS for Music has expired, and we've been unable so far to come to an agreement to renew it on terms that are economically sustainable for us," Google said in a statement. Until a solution is found, it added, "we will be blocking premium music videos in the UK that have been supplied or claimed by record labels."

PRS for Music, which collects money on behalf of writers and publishers worldwide, said it was outraged by Google's move.

"Google has told us they are taking this step because they wish to pay significantly less than at present to the writers of the music on which their service relies, despite the massive increase in YouTube viewing," the group said in a statement.

Neither group revealed how much money is at stake in their negotiations.

YouTube has become an increasingly popular destination for record labels squeezed by declining sales for compact discs. The Web site has deals with three of the four major record labels but some rights-holders have balked at their cut of the advertising revenue.

In December, Warner Music pulled all of its music from YouTube, saying the payments it received did not fairly compensate the label or its artists and songwriters.

It was not clear how long the music videos would stay blocked. Both PRS for Music and Google said they hoped their dispute could be resolved quickly.

The video Leona Lewis's "Bleeding Love," licensed by Sony BMG Music Entertainment U.K. Ltd., which has garnered more than 83 million hits, was still visible from the U.K. late Monday

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[Casinomeister]

Funny how they didn't touch the dance contest video which is solely me and the Ramones clip. What dweebs!

 

[vinylweatherman]

How come it's only the UK, this is a GLOBAL thing. Surely the royalties are the same whoever, and from whereever, a video is viewed. The music industry is trying to make out they are NOT happy with the rate Google is willing to pay for views from the UK, but are lodging NO such objections against the rates received (so far) from OUTSIDE the UK.

Perhaps the Meister could simply play the Ramones track on his Bass Guitar, rather than use the clip, surely the software isn't THAT sensitive

 

[Casinomeister]

I guess I'll just quit dancing

Here ya go. THE UNCENSORED VERSION:
Old URL

It may take a minute or two to buffer, but it's a good video (especially for newbies).

 

[RobWin]

How come it's only the UK, this is a GLOBAL thing. Surely the royalties are the same whoever, and from whereever, a video is viewed. The music industry is trying to make out they are NOT happy with the rate Google is willing to pay for views from the UK, but are lodging NO such objections against the rates received (so far) from OUTSIDE the UK.

Perhaps the Meister could simply play the Ramones track on his Bass Guitar, rather than use the clip, surely the software isn't THAT sensitive

It's not just the UK, it's been that way here in the states for a few months now. I was emailed about a couple of videos that I had published to youtube back a couple of months ago and they told me that they had been disabled because of music infringement rights and that I could try using different music or use some of their music that they would furnish.

A lot of the artists music are still available on youtube though. It was mostly all about the "Warner Music" rights that they pulled.

 

[vinylweatherman]

It's not just the UK, it's been that way here in the states for a few months now. I was emailed about a couple of videos that I had published to youtube back a couple of months ago and they told me that they had been disabled because of music infringement rights and that I could try using different music or use some of their music that they would furnish.

A lot of the artists music are still available on youtube though. It was mostly all about the "Warner Music" rights that they pulled.

What a joke, this is RETROACTIVE. The rights WERE there when the content was used, and users should expect to be able to keep relevant content available once they have agreements (or "fair use") permissions for any content owned by another entity.

From being too lax, YouTube have now gone too far the other way, and this is effectively censoring the internet. In this case, censoring a Meister webcast because of a bit of background music at the end that used to be OK.
Are loads of users being told their videos are now deemed "disabled" till they edit them to the new standards, and who is to say the goalposts will not shift again, and they are asked to edit them yet again.

If YouTube ceases to function effectively because of an overload of disabling, then it will stop being the default choice for uploaded content, and copyright holders may well find that a new upstart has taken over, who will simply refuse to enforce any kind of copyright rule and tell them it's back to the days of them having to find it, complain, have it investigated, and then removed - doing this separately for each offending clip.

I recently found the site hit40UK has effectively ceased to function because virtually ALL their embedded youtube content has been "disabled" to some extent. I now know what has been going on. hit40UK, when working, is actually a site designed to SELL the damn music by allowing you to see the chart, verify a track with a clip, or even the promotional video, and then send you on your way with enough info to buy the track.