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10 High Hold 'Em?

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by aka23, Jun 19, 2007.

    Jun 19, 2007
  1. aka23

    aka23 Dormant account

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    Does this screen shot look wrong? Or I am missing something fundamental about this new game?
     
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  2. Jun 19, 2007
  3. Sodax77

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    Yup

    It seems like your Ace value is 1 ...not 14?!
    And the screenshot show that you have a 3 of a kind ...against dealer's full house?!
    ...that doesn't make sense.

    Or did i miss something?!

    Anyway... here is a rules (by Golden Casino)
    You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
  4. Jun 19, 2007
  5. whooosh

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    this should be the reason. but it seems that the dealer doesn't need to play one of his holecards ...
     
  6. Jun 19, 2007
  7. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

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    Read the fine print. You must use at least 1 of your hole cards to qualify. For the bonus, you must use both.

    Notice in your screenshot that the board plays, and neither of your cards are used.

    This is confirmed at: You must register/login in order to see the link.


     
  8. Jun 19, 2007
  9. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    You are all wrong!

    The error with this screenshot is that this player has made a deposit, and is playing, at GOLDEN CASINO:D

    The "hole card" rule is affecting the chances, however not holding the dealer to the same rule, AND not mentioning it, moves the HE further in favour of the dealer, especially noticeable when the 5 community cards are a pat hand of some quality.
     
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  11. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

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    It would be very interesting to get a sample of hands and see just how many times the board is played....ie: automatic dealer win.
     
  12. Jun 19, 2007
  13. Sodax77

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    Is that so. :rolleyes:

    Don't you see "Play for Real Money"-button? ;)
     
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  14. Jun 19, 2007
  15. SlotMonster

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    Wow! It's strange! You should be winner this hand cause you have Ace kicker!
     
  16. Jun 19, 2007
  17. mikepipe

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    its the fineprint, as vwm said:
    You have to use one hole card for win or even for split pot.
    you simply didnt qualify.
     
  18. Jun 19, 2007
  19. SlotMonster

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    If it's Hold 'Em (and this is Hold 'Em!) - aka23 should be winner this hand.
    I had never seen more strange rule when with fullhouse on flop player busts with high card (Ace) higher than dealer have! :puke:
     
  20. Jun 19, 2007
  21. tencardcharlie

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    If this was real texas hold'em the pot should have been split as both player and house have the same five card hand.

    Now, as he has to use at least one hole card the best hand he can make is a Three of a kind with ace and queen as kickers. Gotta admit it's a really wierd game though.
     
  22. Jun 19, 2007
  23. WAYLANDER

    WAYLANDER Experienced Member webmeister

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    Not true......it would be a split pot ( draw )
    The Ace does not count, only best 5 cards.... and they are all in the middle

    WAYLANDER
     
  24. Jun 19, 2007
  25. WAYLANDER

    WAYLANDER Experienced Member webmeister

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    Beaten to the post by tencardcharlie......
     
  26. Jun 19, 2007
  27. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    No, no, no! A poker hand is only 5-cards.
    When the winning hand consists of 5 cards (e.g. Full-House, Straight or Flush) kickers don't come into the equation.

    Seems just an oversight in writing the rules, rather than a deliberate 'rip-off' game.
    But anyway, how often does the board form a 5-card winning hand... 1 in 1000..?
    (I not a poker expert)

    KK
     
  28. Jun 19, 2007
  29. tencardcharlie

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    Hardly an oversight, but not necessarily a rip-off game. Just wierd, I think.

    How often would depend on your play, but often enough to make a big difference. This does not only apply to big hands like straights and full houses.

    For example:
    Player: 55
    Dealer: 22

    Board: A K K 7 A
    Dealer wins

    Player: T9
    Dealer: 78

    Board: 2 2 A K J
    Dealer wins
     
  30. Jun 19, 2007
  31. aka23

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    That's not a bad guess. It happens ~0.73% of the time (odds of straight, flush, full house... not including odds of <5 card hand + high cards).
     
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  33. aka23

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    So does that make the house edge of the game:

    EDIT: I see others have estimated the odds of a draw in two-player hold'em at 4.07%. This is significantly above my summed estimate.
     
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  35. tencardcharlie

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    Did you take the possibility that the board makes a pat hand and that a player still makes a better hand (for example higher straight) into account?
     
  36. Jun 19, 2007
  37. aka23

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    That's a good point. I don't care to work out the exact numbers, but it would clearly have an influence. I edited my post.
     
  38. Jun 19, 2007
  39. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    No, it doesn't show on my Win 98 monitor:D

    I have never played at Golden Casino, so have never seen this set-up before.
    I would be more worried about a streaker running across the table and kicking the cards over:p
     

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