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Your second point makes no sense...everybody, especially on certain threads in here, has question the governance, fairness and such and I've done my best to answer. And maths is designed with total ignorance to stake. The RTP is stake independent as is the behaviour of the game. Most companies track RTP by stake, as one person playing at 500 quid a spin can massive skew the overall RTP.
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you keep on repeating that answer in just about every topic and while i respect that it does make you wonder... how come there are no losing slots? How come we havent seen any slot developers studios close down, or even properly run casinos when its entirely possible (is it?) to have slot that will have 900% yearly rtp and depending on stakes, just that one slot would be enough to force smaller/fresh casino into bankruptcy.<br />
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If its not arbitrary RNG and if its "totally random within the 95% rtp or whatever" how come there are no slots that have -140% rtp over the course of several months/years and yet there are dozens that are 96% or so that have 70% - 90% rtp?<br />
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Also, regardless of your repeated response i dont buy how stakes dont affect RTP and how someone betting $400 per spin and winning 4.000.000 wouldnt affect other players rtp, because if thats true and said player quits while he is 4 millions ahead, that slot would have negative rtp (publishers wise) for the rest of its life and im sure slots devs have protected them against such a thing happening.<br />
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To add to my point, if slot keeps on its "factory" RTP of 96% then it would take years for that slot to recover from 4 millions $ hit if players keep on playing regular sized bets. <br />
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I know its all speculation but we can only blame slot devs for it because they are ignoring everything else other than saying RTP is 99,9% and thats about it. Most dont say how is that RTP distributed, or more important how does one get to that rtp to begin with. This industry needs more transparency and thats rather obvious now.<br />
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I honestly dont think slots have strayed that far away from old coins machines and its still based on amount of money that enters the slot, but its done in much less obvious way.<br />
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Lets say its based on $1.000.000 batches, so 1m enters the slot this month and $900.000 is paid out. That means over the course of that single batch slot had 90% RTP, which can be distributed further through next batch(es) so next batch could theoreticaly have rtp of 98% while still keeping its 96% factory rtp. Now as i said its done in much less obvious matter so next $1 million batch could have rtp of 80% ($800.000 out 1.000.000 in) leaving the slot in over $300.000 under factory RTP which for all we know could be distributed in just 2 single spins of $150.000.<br />
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The way i see it would be much easier to "control" slots while still keeping decent amount of randomness involved, and yet no casino/developers can lose in this situation.<br />
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Saying slots dont care if your bet is $0,10 or $1000 is kinda contradictory when you keep on saying how slots have lifetime, factory RTP of 96%. <br />
How on earth does slot know how to get to 96% rtp if it doesnt include stakes placed ? If we go that way, saying how stakes dont matter in that case slots could still have 96% RTP while being $1,428,991.299 in minus and as i said im yet to hear about developers/casinos retiring a slot because it wasnt profitable (and with stakes not included in RTP calculation, there defeinitely should be some slots that are not profitable).</div>
