Offering me 50 if i reversed the withdrawal

[Copperpot]

Hi guys,

Today i was offered an extra 50 bonus if i reversed my withdrawal, i was tempted but i had a feeling as soon as i started playing again the slots would be tighter then before. I declined. I'm guessing it would have 30x W/R attached?

Be interesting to hear if anyone else has actually took them up on an offer & won from it.

Twas at an MG casino btw.

Cheers.

 

[Slotster!]

Yeah... It's a pretty common practice it seems.

IMHO, it's a dreadful tactic - preying on the weak and possibly addicted user.

Of course the theory is that the second you reverse, you'll go crazy chasing a repeat of the nice win that enabled you to withdraw in the first place. You're likely to hold the casino in question in high regard thanks to just making a nice cash-out, and psychologically you almost certainly believe you can win again.

Before you know it, in kicks Mr House Edge and your balance disappears quicker than a hooker from David Carradine's hotel room.

Regardless of any incentive - DO NOT EVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES REVERSE YOUR WITHDRAWALS. 'Flush' where you are able to. This is the voice of bitter experience and stupidity speaking.

I'm of the belief that the Casinomeister should view this as verging on 'rogue' behaviour.

 

[spearmaster]

Before you know it, in kicks Mr House Edge and your balance disappears quicker than a hooker from David Carradine's hotel room.

Very funny.... not. Especially as there wasn't one.

Regardless of any incentive - DO NOT EVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES REVERSE YOUR WITHDRAWALS. 'Flush' where you are able to. This is the voice of bitter experience and stupidity speaking.

I'm of the belief that the Casinomeister should view this as verging on 'rogue' behaviour.

I don't know if I would call it rogue behavior - but I certainly don't support it either.

 

[Copperpot]

Yup, pretty bad form, especially as it was after i had asked for it to be flushed. I'm shocked as this was my first ever reversal 'offer' & i did think about taking it but glad i didn't.

 

[Slotster!]

Yup, pretty bad form, especially as it was after i had asked for it to be flushed. I'm shocked as this was my first ever reversal 'offer' & i did think about taking it but glad i didn't.

Ooof! That's really bad... Name and shame.

Very funny.... not. Especially as there wasn't one.

It was the first comparison that came into my hungover addled, coffee fizzing brain. Apologies.

FWIW, check this out.

I once made a nice sizeable withdrawal from a casino that gets a lot of good press round here. Upon requesting a flush, I got an email about an hour later saying the flush had been actioned, the money would be in my bank within two working days (Standard UK rules) - Oh, and there was 100 no strings sat in my account for playing money whilst I waited. Seriously.

Of course, I've remained painfully loyal to that particular outfit - spent gazillions more than what I've withdrawn over the years and still think they're the best around.

Short sighted quick buck or long term lucrative customer? Win/Win.

You tell me which you'd prefer...

 

[chuchu59]

Just to recap that Spin Palace made a similar offer recently. If it's another MG this isnt a flash in the pan and many MGs may follow suit.

 

[spearmaster]

Just to recap that Spin Palace made a similar offer recently. If it's another MG this isnt a flash in the pan and many MGs may follow suit.

Did you mean a similar offer for reversing the withdrawal, or the type of offer that Slotster got?

I sure hope it's the latter...

 

[Copperpot]

Was MG AllJackpots casino.

 

[AussieGambler21]

Upon requesting a flush

Pardon my ignorance but what exactly is a "flush" when requesting a withdraw?

 

[spearmaster]

Pardon my ignorance but what exactly is a "flush" when requesting a withdraw?

A flush means to request immediate processing, instead of leaving it in a pending state where it can be reversed.

 

[chuchu59]

Did you mean a similar offer for reversing the withdrawal, or the type of offer that Slotster got?

I sure hope it's the latter...

I think it was a similar offer. Remember the Spin Palace thread where we argued about the terms where the last bet always constituted 100% of the balance. We were rather obsessed with that argument and didnt really debate on the withdrawal reversal offer.

 

[Simmo!]

Ooh, good old reverse withdrawal!! Must bite tongue....must bite tongue

I'm surprised that it's Jackpot Factory actually. But I always end up closing my account at any MG casino that won't flush inside an hour or won't reduce the reverse time to 1 hour for me (unless they don't have that "feature" obviously). There are quite a few who will, and it indicates a good casino, so I'd advise ditching any casino who won't and going elsewhere. And I'd certainly close my account if they tried to tempt me to not make a withdrawal!!

But don't forget, reverse withdrawal is "a feature that our players like".

Oh crap, didn't bite hard enough.

 

[Copperpot]

Well, it turns out they don't actually flush your withdrawals either. I just asked to have my 'flushed' withdrawal reversed & they did. Stupid of me i know, but i expect better from a casino, flushed should mean flushed with no option to reverse.

Again, silly of me to reverse my withdrawal. I know, i know. :[

 

[vinylweatherman]

Not too long ago, I withdrew 3000 from Prime casino, and the next day I got a PHONECALL offering me a bonus if I reversed some of it. Worse, they offered EXTRA if I agreed to reverse ALL of it, some 900 bonus on 3000 reversed.
I told them how naughty this was, and how this was a poor offer, considering it was less in value than ANY of the regular weekly offers. I also asked, since they were on the phone anyway, if they could FLUSH my 3000
Later I got the offer in WRITING (email), but ignored it.

I got paid in a timely manner, and they never tried this again.

Prime casino is CONNECTED to the Palace Group, but is not OWNED by them, but Palace Group do the support for them.

Interestingly, the person who phoned me from Prime told me that they had "sacked" Palace Group and were now doing their OWN support - this was a complete load of bullsh1t - so not only were they a bit naughty, but this rep was prepared to LIE. I can only speculate that this lie was intended to explain away why "normal" CS (Palace Group) would have no knowledge of this offer if I contacted them about it. I didn't, so I will never know, HOWEVER, I DID contact Prime casino ON THE NUMBER the rep told me to use in the phone call offering me the 900 for reversing (remember, he also said Palace group no longer did the CS, which was why he wanted me to use this new number), and this is when his lie was exposed - I was greeted with "Hello, Ruby Fortune support"

There is more to this murky business than we think, these are NOT "rogue" casinos, these are ACCREDITED, or ONCE accredited casinos that are now making offers on a case by case basis to players who agree to reverse a withdrawal.
What is odd though - this is BONUS ABUSE, isn't it - claiming a bonus on a reversed withdrawal, or so we have been lead to believe - or was this whole thing another LIE from operators.

 

[hitobito2005]

I was recently offered a 25% bonus for reversing a large withdrawal at Ruby Fortune (Palace Group).

Golden Palace have also sent me similar offers in the past, but I suppose it's to be expected from them.

 

[funky_seagull]

Not the sign of a nice casino in my opinion, pure greed and the wrong attitude towards players. I would find it hard to trust a casino that uses such a dirty trick. I do not think this should be the behaviour of an accredited casino.

 

[AussieGambler21]

A flush means to request immediate processing, instead of leaving it in a pending state where it can be reversed.

Thanks for the definition spearmaster. I actually wish i knew about that before as i would have saved a lot of money.

Does anyone know if 32Red and 3Dice offer "flushing"

 

[refre]

Thanks for the definition spearmaster. I actually wish i knew about that before as i would have saved a lot of money.

Does anyone know if 32Red and 3Dice offer "flushing"

Yes they do.

At 3Dice you can ask for a flush on a case by case basis, or you could have them them disable the reverse feature all together.

By request, 32Red will shorten the pending period from 4 to 1 hour (permanently). I never bothered with this option though, as I always contact CS to have my withdrawals flushed.

Freddy

 

[Balky]

That is still a great offer compared to what I have once been offered by a certain Playtech casino. I requested a withdrawal of 100 dollars and before the pending time (which lasts four business days btw) expired i received a phone call from my VIP host offering me a 30% sticky bonus if i reverse.
But they paid me in time (if 4 business days can be called "in time").


Cheers Balky

 

[Jasminebed]

3Dice has withdrawals to ewallets that are near instant, so no need to flush those.

The first time I actually had a decent hit at 3Dice, the rep contacting me asking if I would like a flush, and suggested I take a nice win. Being gambler that I am, I carried on for a bit, and managed to cash out a slightly higher (that time at least)

Since then, if I am withdrawing via wire, I always request a flush.

Have not asked at 32Red, their payouts are very quick too.

 

[mclee321]

I'm of the firm belief the casinos can stick their reverse bonus up their collective cramholes. As a gambler online, one of my few strengths is walking away after a good session, I don't recall ever reversing. It's not like you won't have a bonus again to use when you next deposit.

Besides, after a 3 hours session of ups and downs, I emerge from the 'gambling warp' pale faced with a headache from too much stimulation. The last thing I want to do is start over with a massive playthrough!

 

[De Beuker]

I've had a similar offer a few weeks ago, I was playing at a Jackpot Factory casino, made a 30 deposit, won 200 and went to the cashier to withdraw 150.
As soon as I opened the withdraw page, I got interrupted by livechat, offering me a 50 extra bonus if I decided to play on.
I was very surprised, and accepted the offer, as I wanted to play some more anyway, but with a bit of a 'bad taste' I have to say.
It turned out good in the end, I won some more and made the playthrough, cashed out 250 in the end, this time without interruptions
But I never expected this from a MG casino..

 

[chayton]

I've never been asked or 'invited' to reverse a withdrawal at an MG casino, and I play at a LOT of them. Of course I haven't made many withdrawals...maybe that's why.

 

[vegetagirl2008]

I'm of the firm belief the casinos can stick their reverse bonus up their collective cramholes. As a gambler online, one of my few strengths is walking away after a good session, I don't recall ever reversing. It's not like you won't have a bonus again to use when you next deposit.

Besides, after a 3 hours session of ups and downs, I emerge from the 'gambling warp' pale faced with a headache from too much stimulation. The last thing I want to do is start over with a massive playthrough!

Not only that they are hoping you lose back all of your money. Casinos do not like to lose money, so they tempt you with these reverse bonuses in hopes that you lose back your withdrawal and on top of everything else add a ridiculous wage requirement, In my opinion they should just give you the bonus with no WR attached. To me sounds like a stall tactic. Accredited or not.

 

[Jasminebed]

Copperpot declined the offer, so we will not know if it was a favourable bonus or not. But they should have informed him of any WR when they presented the offer.

Also, maybe Copperpot was contacted by livechat...I've bordered on rude with them at the only playtech I'm at. I told them that I've informed more than once that I am aware they have a bonus team, and how to find them. If I would like to hear about the bonus offers available to me.

People sometimes feel awkward to decline a "gift" offered to them. I don't know much about what games the OP was playing or the size of his withdrawal.

Even with a 1XWR, for a player that modified martigales roulette, or a $10 a hand Blackjack player the intention is for them to continue on playing after a bad bit of luck, or if they win, they will probably figure they are "on a roll" and carry on some point past where the roll ends.

After all, most of the people gambling online are gamblers, and that is what gamblers do.

But no matter how it is presented, it is meant to keep your money there for you too play on after requesting a "flush".

Casinos that do not flush and do not allow the opportunities for a player to use the reverse withdrawal feature to take a bonus, or often even to claim a bonus by making a new deposit while a withdrawal, are free to email a player such opportunities to use a reverse or partial reverse withdrawal bonus offer, IMHO. You have the opportunity to read the email and make your own decision, without the pressure that a chat window or telephone call entails. Again, meant to keep your money within the casino.

Casinos that claim to flush upon request should do just that, flush the payment upon request.

To be honest, other than first withdrawal requests, there is no real reason casinos can not handle payment requests to ewallets instantly.