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    I agree Jetset, its unlikely given the road it needs to travel in the short time given that it will get anywhere. Particularly when there's two different bills that need to be settled. I don't think we need to worry about it this year.

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    Well said Jetset! What's sad is what this really seems to come down to is that if the good old USA was getting a nice "cut" of the profit, we wouldn't be seeing this.

    I can't see this passing, though. They've been trying to regulate alot of content on the internet i.e. porn, etc. but a lot of it falls through loopholes.

    I will definitely be writing yet more letters to my state gov and congress. Ironically, my state (Maine) has been chomping at the bit to put a casino here.
    Seeing that the state will get a nice profit from it, gambling here, unlike online will be left alone.

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    The attitude of US legislators, and the trouble they are going to in order to hammer online gambling is astonishing (Vegas conspiracy theories aside!)to me.

    There are many reputable and honest casino groups who have already said they would accept taxation as the price for regulation and legality in the key US market, and clearly there is a growing demand for this form of gambling from tens of thousands of adult, responsible US citizens yet their own politicians ignore these important facts, leaving their people to the mercy of largely unregulated offshore operators.

    And the political manouevring on issues like the carve-outs for vested interests has always sickened me.

    I thought the
    IGC
    reaction made some very good points.

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    jetset,

    I all honesty, I'd rather hear your " Vegas conspiracy theories " .


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    THE INTERNET GAMBLING BANKING ACT IS ANOTHER OF OUR FREEDOMS BEING DELETED MY OUR SO CALLED DEMOCRATIC GOVERMENT. I DON'T REMEMBER VOTING ON THIS. THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA NEED MORE VOTING RIGHTS. OUR GOV.IS IN BED WITH BIG BUSINESS AND THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE ONLY ABOUT GETTING RE-ELECTED.
    COMING NEXT IS THE REQUIREMENT OF THE BANKS AND STORES TO REPORT ANY PURCHASE OF ANYTHING THAT THE GOV. DEEMS ANTIGOVERMENT,WHICH COULD BE GUN MAGAZINES,TO BUYING TO MANY LOTTERY TICKETS FOR LAUNDERING MONEY,ACID,BLEACH,OR ANY THAT COULD BE USED TO MAKE A BOMB, SHOTGUN SHELLS, PLAYBOY MAGAZINE,IT WILL BE A CRIME TO JOIN THE ACLU,OR ANY GROUP THAT IS FORMED TO PROCTECT OUR CIVIL RIGHTS. WE MUST HAVE A DRASTIC CHANGE IN THE WAY OUR GOVERMENT OPERATES. EVERYONE PLEASE JOIN THE ACLU. MAYBE THEY CAN HELP SAVE US FROM THE BUSH REGIME.

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    fester111,

    can we lose the caps!

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    More detail on the Senate Banking Committee's action in forwarding on the Kyl proposal continues to come in.

    I found this one concerning the eroding of State powers, which has the powerful American Gaming Association worried, of interest because it heralds later opposition when the Bill comes to conference and the vote:


    WASHINGTON August 2, 2003

    A Senate panel quickly and unanimously passed a bill Thursday aimed at crippling Internet gambling through banning the use of credit cards, checks or money transfers to place or pay out bets. With the House's approval of a similar bill in June, Thursday's action moves the bill closer to final approval than ever before.

    But a last-minute change removing language that would allow states to legalize the practice within its boundaries, made through an amendment by Senate Banking Committee Chairman Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., has Nevada senators and the casino industry concerned.

    "The bill is unbalanced and unfair," said Frank Fahrenkopf, American Gaming Association president, adding that it could even expand online gaming as it stands now since Indian casinos and horse and dog racing could still participate in online betting.

    Fahrenkopf noted that AGA uses a three-prong test to determine if it will support legislation. This bill failed two parts, since it does not treat all forms of gaming the same and does not preserve states' rights. He noted that this was not a factor in Arizona Sen. Jon Kyl's original bill or in the House version of the bill passed last month.

    Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., and Sen. John Ensign, R-Nev., also could not support the bill, based on the state language removal.

    The House approved Rep. Spencer Bachus' Internet gaming ban bill on June 10, with a much longer floor debate. The approved bill contained the exemptions for state-regulated gaming industries such as horse and dog racing, as well as casinos that could offer an Internet gambling site if Nevada wanted to figure out how to regulate it in the state.

    Rep. Jim Gibbons, R-Nev., voted for the House version, with Reps. Jon Porter, R-Nev., and Shelley Berkley, D-Nev., voting against it.

    The bill approved Thursday must still pass the Senate floor before it goes to conference with House negotiators. There selected members of each chamber will iron out differences between the two versions to form one new bill to be voted on again and sent to the president, if approved.

    The Senate is expected to adjourn today for its August recess, so any action would take place after Sept. 3

    Previously, only the Senate passed a similar ban in 1998 and 1999. In 2000 a House bill failed to gain a two-thirds majority needed for passage, as set by a special rule created for the bill.

    A Reid aide said he wants to make sure there is nothing in the bill that could limit Nevada from regulating itself, should the state opt to allow Internet gaming in the future. As the bill stands now, it is not clear if that is the case.

    MGM MIRAGE closed its Internet gambling site, which catered to non-U.S. gamblers, saying the legal and political climate on the issue was unclear.

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    kyl is on the take. I am getting sick of people like him interfering with this. If he really wanted to gaming then what about arizona land based casinos? It's all about the green with him.

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    They are ALL on the take. Its called Lobbying groups and 'political contributions'

    Maybe if
    MG
    ,
    RTG
    & Playtech got together and formed their own lobby and greased the wheels, they could prevent this crap from happening.

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    I'm not sure about
    RTG
    or Playtech, but
    MGS
    ,CON and other bigtime firms involved in the
    IGC
    will have been involved in lobbying strategies through that body these past several years. I heard that hundreds of thousands have been poured into Washington specialist companies for this purpose.

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