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    someone please go to their website and find the rule that states
    " If you don't want a bonus, please notify us before playing or our bonus terms and conditions will be valid once you place a bet".
    it does not exist. They automatically put the bonus in your account. If they had normal bonus rules, you have to play x amount of hands, etc. that would be OK. To accept post-up money and heavily advertise their bonuses like they do is wrong and very deceptive when you cannot cash out without running your money through 20 times on some slot game with a very high house edge, thus guaranteeing their are losers, and their are winners who are forced to dump their winnings into the slots. In the end, their are no winners.

    instead of offering an opportunity to play games like blackjack, all these people are doing is conning people like me into sending $100 and then guaranteeing that money will be lost one way or another thru outrageous " rules" which are buried in an obscure section of their website.
    thwe option to not take a bonus is never given. the option to decline the bonus before play or be subject to the bonus terms and conditions is also never given.
    don't defend these stiffs by adding terms and conditions and rules they simply DO NOT HAVE.

    I respect the differing opinions, I am not trying to start some flaming. But I do not believe it is fair to say the onus was on me to decline the bonus after they gave it to me. Nor should I be out of luck because I did not see a thoughoughly hidden page displaying the bonus rules, which are draconian.

    I played a lot of blackjack and my money has been there for about 30 days. Any sportsbook would pay me with a smile with those conditions being met. Club Dice insists I lose the money in their slots. I'll never be able to cash out unless I am very lucky, which I already was at blackjack.

    I have met a "bonus requirement" for any fair casino. I even offered to give up the bonus. They are insisting I give everything up and play slots till I have a zero in my account.

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    Bottom line is you accepted the bonus, you played the bonus, but you played blackjack, which does not contribute to the play through.

    That is 20x your deposit & bonus ( $2,000US ) is required before cashing in. Roulette, Baccarat, Craps, Blackjack, or any Video Poker machine do not count towards the play through.

    Personally I wouldn't touch this bonus with a 20 foot barge pole, as whitteyford said, there are better deals out there if you want to play blackjack.

    At the end of the day, as unfortunate or as unfair, unjust or whatever, it's best to simply
    IMHO
    to strike it up as a lesson.

    Always read the
    T&C
    's before depositing, if you have deposited & are still unclear, contact support before placing any of your deposit & or bonus into play.

    Added - You always have the right to refuse the bonus & or to ask it to be removed.

    (Message edited by glodge on July 09, 2003)

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    Hi Mr. Smith, I am sorry that you were unaware of the terms and conditions at ClubDice. However, one of your complaints is that they automatically put the bonus into your account upon making your deposit. May I ask you a question...since, you were unaware that blackjack was an ineligible game to play with bonus money, would you have accepted the bonus if you were asked "Would you like to double your money with a 100% match bonus"? I think you probably would have accepted the bonus since you did not know that
    BJ
    was an ineligible game to play. It is so important to read the Terms and Conditions at every casino, prior to depositing at any online casino. Perhaps, you could ask ClubDice if they would atleast return your initial deposit? If you ask them in a nice way, by explaining that you did not know that the $100 auto bonus was the same as accepting their
    T&C
    's they just might return your $100 and then atlest you did not lose any of your money.

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    I couldn't have said it better myself glodge. Wait a sec, I have said the same thing myself in other threads!

    #1 rule of playing at online casinos is READ THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS BEFORE YOU PLAY A PENNY OF ANY BONUS. IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS THEN CONTACT THE CASINO AND HAVE THE BONUS REMOVED BEFORE YOU PLAY ANYTHING.

    Unfortunately Mr Smith, you didn't do that. In essence, what you did was enter into a contract with a casino without reading it first. You 'signed' on the bottom line and took their offer without looking into what strings were attached to it.

    To use your analogy, if you went to a casino in Vegas and wanted to play blackjack, and a casino host greeted you when you walked in and said 'would you like a $100 worth of match play chips? You can't play with them on Roulette, Baccarat, Craps, Blackjack, or any Video Poker machine though.', would you accept it? If you did accept it and then played only on
    BJ
    and won a couple of hundred using a combination of those match play chips and your chips, should the casino then say, 'that's ok, just give us back the match play chips and take the winnings'? Of course not, the rules were that you couldn't play
    BJ
    with those chips. If you just kept them in your pocket and didn't mingle them with your own chips, then it would be a problem, but that can't happen at most online casinos. All the money is in one pot and there's no deliniation between your chips and theirs.

    You say they should just remove the bonus and give you the rest, but that is not necessarily fair to the casino either. Suppose you're playing the disallowed game of
    BJ
    and during your 5 hours of play, you went below $100. At that point, you'd have been busted without the benefit of their bonus and you wouldn't have ended up winning anything unless you redeposited. Is it then fair for you to 'illegally' use their bonus to help you to win a good chunck of change and then say, 'well just take back your bonus chips and I'll keep my winnings'? No. You should have read the rules and either refused the bonus or played non-banned games until you meet the wagering requirements. The other option is that they will return your deposit to you and void your play.

    They do have penny slots there, and with some effort, you can easily play out the wagering requirements in a few days and probably lose no more than $50. My suggestion is play Captain's Treasure for 1 cent per line. That is the best paying penny slot in playtech and you can actually make some money playing it (I've won $50 in one session playing that one for a penny).

    Oh, and Club Dice are not theives. I've won literally thousands of dollars from them playing on bonuses and they payed every one in 4 days. No hassles at all since I read and abided by the rules of the bonuses.

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    Have these guys changed their rules? I went to look at the terms for the $100 match and they now allow
    BJ
    , only 4x playthrough BUT it is now a sticky bonus. Not bad, not great. The $225 bonus is the one with all of the no
    BJ
    rules.

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    I took advantage of their 300% bonus offer on a deposit of $50.00. After I read the fine print and learned I had to wager 67 times the bonus before being eligible to cash out. I love their Playtech software and their low betting minimum limits. ($1.00 Pai Gow, Yummy!) On the time or two that I won, I got my money, although, once, I had a problem that was finally reconciled with some intervention. I still plan on playing there whenever they send me an offer that I think I should act on.

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    Ditto here!

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    I'll tell you for sure. If Club Dice has a 67 x's roll over factor you would have to be out of your ever loving mind to play there. Not to mention the fact that a person would hav't to be very concerned about getting paid if they did win (against those odds).

    To have that kind of roll over factor tells me two things:

    1) They cannot have many players, because there are not that many players that would knowingly play against a factor such as 67 x's.

    2) They hav't to be hurting for bucks big time with a limited amount of players.

    Cipher

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    Usually they only have that on 150% or 200% type bonuses. I took them up on one of those, it was like deposit 50 and get 150 bonus or something with $10k wagering requirements. I hit 3 royals on A&F for $1k each and cashed out with those + some. I wouldn't do a 100% bonus with that kind of w/r though, too much risk for too little reward.

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    Cipher,

    I wrote a post but it got trashed because I'd forgotten to log in. Basically, I just stated that I'd try them again under the same terms.
    IMO
    , we are all fortunate to have the incentives that bonuses represent. If there were no bonuses offered, many of us would still play. The bonus system works because all of us are hoping to get something FREE! At least, with 67 times wagering on the bonus, I doubt Club Dice would challenge the payout with a claim of bonus abuse.
    lol

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