Excellent ratings but beware

Try and play slots at Lucky Red, Bodog, or Intertops. They have excellent ratings, but beware! Bet with small denominations (e.g., $0.25, $0.50, or $075). And soon, after, let's say 500 spins, you will realize that their so-called RNG (Random Number Generator) is really very generous! Now switch to betting $1.00 or higher for the same number of spins (500), and soon you will realize that your winnings compared to your losses is close to 1%. It looks like (and I amy be wrong) that small bets were designed as as a "bait" to make players become "greedy" and to lure them into switching to bigger bets ($1.00+). My advice: If you want to play with the above-noted casinos, always bet small (less than $1.00). Intertops were kind enough to refund all my deposit when I confronted them with these facts, but they closed my account. The other two casinos refused to do so, and also closed my account.

yeah....you'd be wong.
These are accredited casinos. Meaning, your hypothesis probably holds as much water as well...my bladder after a box of beer.

My balance tends to go south when upping bets.

It's technically called 'being a greedy git'

I tend to do better when at higher bets if I don my Superman outfit

jonmincher said:

I tend to do better when at higher bets if I don my Superman outfit

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as the neighbours keep pointing out, posing in front of the bay window wearing a red speedo and tying a bedsheet around your neck is NOT technically a Superman costume, jon

dionysus said:

as the neighbours keep pointing out, posing in front of the bay window wearing a red speedo and tying a bedsheet around your neck is NOT technically a Superman costume, jon

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It's not the 'Superman' outfit that's the issue here. It's the blonde wig he dons so as to become 'Supergirl' that puts the icing on the cake

mamoon1940 said:

Intertops were kind enough to refund all my deposit when I confronted them with these facts

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doubtful

goatwack said:

It's not the 'Superman' outfit that's the issue here. It's the blonde wig he dons so as to become 'Supergirl' that puts the icing on the cake

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You've obviously driven past my house more than once

mamoon1940 said:

Try and play slots at Lucky Red, Bodog, or Intertops. They have excellent ratings, but beware! Bet with small denominations (e.g., $0.25, $0.50, or $075). And soon, after, let's say 500 spins, you will realize that their so-called RNG (Random Number Generator) is really very generous! Now switch to betting $1.00 or higher for the same number of spins (500), and soon you will realize that your winnings compared to your losses is close to 1%. It looks like (and I amy be wrong) that small bets were designed as as a "bait" to make players become "greedy" and to lure them into switching to bigger bets ($1.00+). My advice: If you want to play with the above-noted casinos, always bet small (less than $1.00). Intertops were kind enough to refund all my deposit when I confronted them with these facts, but they closed my account. The other two casinos refused to do so, and also closed my account.

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hmmmmm?

He's just jealous you have the legs to pull it off

jonmincher said:

You've obviously driven past my house more than once

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Well if you call 'driving' past your house camping in the shrubbery with binoculars waiting for 'JM Supergirl Tuesday', then it's a resounding 'yes'

Hi mamoon, there's lots of other sites on the internet that offer conspiracy theories, or worse still, winning theories about playing slots. I think weve all seen them at one time or another. My opinion is you either hang in there and play at accredited casinos as a hobby or give it a miss. Some games have incredible pay outs which will hit unexpectidly, but you need to remember to never gamble more than you can afford and don't expect to win. Not sure what to say about the software glitch, I get it from time to time so just seem to play at places where I don't have the problems.
If that doesn't work try pressing the spin button with your other hand and facing the other way. I've had some luck with that method.

Doubtful

lockinlove said:

doubtful

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I can email you their email which relates to the refund.

probably not necessary, but if so consider yourself exceptionally lucky

the fact is, everyone has bad runs, and since the house always has the edge, you'd expect a balance to drain faster by spinning faster or betting larger.

random is random is random end of day

dionysus said:

probably not necessary, but if so consider yourself exceptionally lucky

the fact is, everyone has bad runs, and since the house always has the edge, you'd expect a balance to drain faster by spinning faster or betting larger.

random is random is random end of day

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Not when you do 500 spins with zero winning at the end. The house, as far as slots are concerned and if the software is not tampered with, has an edge of no more than 10%, which means for 500 $1 spins, you expect to get at least $450 at the end of spin # 500. I got zero in three casinos!

except slots dont work that way - rtp is across hundreds of millions/billions of spins
bad runs are what allow for good runs, the above expected rtp

dionysus said:

except slots dont work that way - rtp is across hundreds of millions/billions of spins
bad runs are what allow for good runs, the above expected rtp

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Not true! I know what a losing streak is; it doesn't extend to more than 20 or 30 spins, but to 500? Give me a break.

of course it does and can - try reading a few threads here.
You can 'expect' a bonus round/free spins around once every 250 and 500 spins.
But seeing as you could also get the FS back to back, not seeing a sizeable return or FS in a thousand rounds isnt extraordinary.

You might expect an RTP of 98% from a slot - enough knowing members can attest a return well, well below OFTEN.
It's why we also see those monstrous well beyond hits high above a slots RTP.

Before venting and blaming a casino for your poor luck, use your time instead to do a little research.

by the way, I've flagged Bryan to suggest a more suitable title, like 'poor run at accredited casinos' rather than 'software glitch'

RTP is just a guide, not set in stone. It is estimated over an infinite, ongoing number of spins so no definite figure can be put on it.

Hence, you could get 10 bonus rounds in a hundred spins and your RTP could be through the roof, but this is not the norm. Likewise it can work the other way too but we're much better at accepting good spikes in gameplay and love to bemoan bad runs. You can't put a final number on infinite, it's likely to fluctuate. This is why some casinos will differ on percentages on games, some have 94, others might have 96.

Blame can't be attributed to an individual casino, they're just providers. 500 spins is a minute sample, it's like saying I've travelled 500 feet in space, why haven't I reached Saturn yet

One cannot go into slots play thinking that you're 'owed' a percentage of what you put in, or else there'd be no surprises and every player would raise their bets at opportune times to maximize profits. The whole point of slots is their unpredictability, both good and bad. And most sessions are designed to end in the demise of of one's bankroll anyway, that's the price of randomness I'm afraid!

goatwack said:

One cannot go into slots play thinking that you're 'owed' a percentage of what you put in, or else there'd be no surprises and every player would raise their bets at opportune times to maximize profits.

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This is a bigger issue/problem than we realise I think.

More than a couple of my mates who like a punt online (slots) I hear them telling me like they just got fleeced by the Pub Fruity in our local, thinking 'If I put enough in it's got to 'give' eventually'

Explained over and over again to the one that it doesn't work like that but in the end I just gave up, pretty much like I'm going to now with regard to convincing the OP.

mamoon1940 said:

Not true! I know what a losing streak is; it doesn't extend to more than 20 or 30 spins, but to 500? Give me a break.

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dionysus said:

of course it does and can - try reading a few threads here.
You can 'expect' a bonus round/free spins around once every 250 and 500 spins.
But seeing as you could also get the FS back to back, not seeing a sizeable return or FS in a thousand rounds isnt extraordinary.

You might expect an RTP of 98% from a slot - enough knowing members can attest a return well, well below OFTEN.
It's why we also see those monstrous well beyond hits high above a slots RTP.

Before venting and blaming a casino for your poor luck, use your time instead to do a little research.

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I think what "mamoon1940" is trying to say is that he had 500 losing spins @ 1$ in a row, hence he ended with "0" credits after doing 500 spins. Now that would be surely a software glitch.

Doubtful though that it would happen. You might lose 200-300 on a bad run but certainly not 500 with not a single winning spin.

As he's listed three unrelated properties, strikes me more a winge than glitch

Glitch, who knows. But surely you'd suspect something was amiss after say 100 dead spins in a row?? But 500 absolute dead spins? Surely most players would have switched games instead of watching their balance curl up in a corner to die like that!

goatwack said:

Glitch, who knows. But surely you'd suspect something was amiss after say 100 dead spins in a row?? But 500 absolute dead spins? Surely most players would have switched games instead of watching their balance curl up in a corner to die like that!

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And he repeated the same feat at 3 different casinos.... what are the odds???