Software Errors the Game is up / Warning to the Community

GhostRidah

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Ok I read the warning regarding Slotobank and the hinky software now I'm going to warn the community about a more
general issue without naming any casino's .
Firstly I want to say "The Game Is Up" Game Errors Occuring mid play whilst one is winning is so obvious that it is a joke
(Net-Ent Software) I even tripped up two casino's recently BIG ONES explaining about technical difficulties kind of strange
because at the time I was on another playing the same software with ZERO faults so the problem was not because of Net
-Ent Most Probably Your using RTP Limiters (Third party Software) to keep the bank balance healthy.

And its not just Netent I wont go into detail But I'll give you the warning right now ....stop or you will find yourselves
being closed down and if there's anyone connected to auditors e.g E-Cogra and etc ...start auditing .

Rule of Thumb : "If your winning the RTP is rising until it reaches a peak percentage a game error effects a software reset each time resetting to the Factory RTP and breaking your win streak"
"Avoid the place that it happened like the plague" .
 
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- T
 
a grain of salt goes well on my casino chips

Sometimes the game goes down on a bad session sometimes a good session either way when it goes down unless you mid feature maybe? The session is gone
and a new one begins it can be great or nasty if you see errors on sites and you think somethings up look into it but you wont get that with legit software if the place is using dodgy or hacked games run .there are dodgy casinos out there and dodgy players and dodgy providers if you dont trust it dont play it .if your having the run from hell somewhere try a different casino. Play low until you have learnt the variance of games and how it affects wins and losses its all random but lets say you have 100 spins avg then feature or decent win and this happens over large amount of session then you have 300 before the feature restart the session or move on to another game unless its a fruit machine (uk thing)kicking it till it pays wont work.
 
I feel this post is one of madness .... what on earth are " RTP Limiters " :confused:
No such thing as a factory "reset" for video slots from reputable providers. The slot dont care what your last bet current bet or future bet would be.
The slot just is .... and spews forth wins and losses in as a random way as possibly it can. Overall the maths model built into all slots means that we are all inevitably doomed to loose either short term or long term. Unless of course you win a mega life changing jackpot.
 
I feel this post is one of madness .... what on earth are " RTP Limiters " :confused:
No such thing as a factory "reset" for video slots from reputable providers. The slot dont care what your last bet current bet or future bet would be.
The slot just is .... and spews forth wins and losses in as a random way as possibly it can. Overall the maths model built into all slots means that we are all inevitably doomed to loose either short term or long term. Unless of course you win a mega life changing jackpot.

Compensators, fitted to UK fruit machines. They are software based trackers of the machines current RTP, and adjust the payouts in order to stay within a specified range of a target RTP. These are not found in Vegas or Aussie style slot games, which are the overwhelming majority of online slots. Some online games are "weighted", which means that they are still random, but their TRTP and variances can't be calculated from the reelstrips as each reel stop does not necessarily have the same chance of being triggered. 5 Reel Drive (Microgaming) is an example of a random, but weighted, video slot. The 3 reel "classic" slots are probably all weighted.

There are no "compensated" or "emulated" UK style fruit machines online (that I know of) since Microgaming yanked the lot without warning me last May:mad:
 
I mean honestly it doesn't take a genius Level I.Q to figure out that these crashes occur when a big win happens or when free spins hit ...the connection is far too coincidental
and also bear in mind who may be at this very moment looking into things : and if your wondering I am operating with a lot more knowledge that i'm disclosing due to legal
issues and for obvious reasons .
My advice to the wise and I'm doing you ...a very big favor here ...figure out those "Technical Difficulties" ..in a timely manner and that is all I'm prepared to
say at this point I cannot reveal anything more for legal reasons.
 
First of the picture Tropicana50 uploaded nearly made me piss my self,


On a serious note It does feel like there is some kind of limiter running & if the OP could prove such things than it would not surprise me one bit, I doubt very much that the great casinos out there would put them selfs in jeopardy but would not surprise me one bit if the major games suppliers had such things built in to cut the rtp down if games are paying out to much, such as holding back some of the wining combinations
 
Interesting... Because whenever I have had software glitches I've been losing. Or am I in a paradox universe and is the glitch telling me I'm losing when I am actually winning? The mystery deepens... :what:
 
This is a subject that has reared up on a regular basis ever since I can remember. My gut instinct and the logic tells me it's just a conspiracy theory but I wouldn't be surprised if some day, one of the less reputable software providers was uncovered. But we all know who those are anyway so it wouldn't surprise anyone.

And we do occasionally find the odd game that is screwed up but it's very rare.

When it comes to MGS, Net Ent, WMS, IGT etc then I don't buy the fact they are deliberately duping players like this. If that was the case, the whole industry would be in take-down mode: licensing jurisdictions, bookmakers, the Gambling Commission, software testing agencies... they'd all be screwed overnight. It's too much of a risk and also an unnecessary one because gambling is a profitable business without having to cheat.

randomian hits the nail on the head:

...there are dodgy casinos out there and dodgy players and dodgy providers if you dont trust it dont play it.
 
I mean honestly it doesn't take a genius Level I.Q to figure out that these crashes occur when a big win happens or when free spins hit ...the connection is far too coincidental
and also bear in mind who may be at this very moment looking into things : and if your wondering I am operating with a lot more knowledge that i'm disclosing due to legal
issues and for obvious reasons .
My advice to the wise and I'm doing you ...a very big favor here ...figure out those "Technical Difficulties" ..in a timely manner and that is all I'm prepared to
say at this point I cannot reveal anything more for legal reasons.

What about "whistle blower protection" laws? These override the usual "legal reasons" when it comes to exposing criminal activities by businesses. Rather than "blowing the whistle" in public however, open a dialogue with Max or the Meister by PM so that these concerns can be raised. It may well be that they are aware of them in any case, and that they are not a big conspiracy or sign of rampant criminality, but merely a reason as to why some softwares make it much harder for a casino to attain accreditation.
 
What about "whistle blower protection" laws? These override the usual "legal reasons" when it comes to exposing criminal activities by businesses. Rather than "blowing the whistle" in public however, open a dialogue with Max or the Meister by PM so that these concerns can be raised. It may well be that they are aware of them in any case, and that they are not a big conspiracy or sign of rampant criminality, but merely a reason as to why some softwares make it much harder for a casino to attain accreditation.

This ends my interest in this topic I respectfully request the topic locked I do not wish to contribute further cheers .
 
There used to be a an old member that used to start threads than tried shutting them down :confused:

Check out the screenshots spintee, the op posted today. he's obviously changed his mind about his theory, since getting a couple of big wins, lol
 
There used to be a an old member that used to start threads than tried shutting them down :confused:

Well its going nowhere to be honest and i'm not at liberty to disclose any information further I'll agree with Vinyl's statement but for this thread to
proceed will serve no purpose but to open a pandora's box which I don't intend to do ...I partly blame myself for opening it but believe me I have
my reason's and valid ones .

It's best to leave things buried ... if asked to continue I will (Privately about specifics) since I've called down the thunder and just so you know
I'm trying not to be negative and respective your respected forum members and I'm treading lightly ok ...there's the truth .

And brianmon I haven't changed a thing k ... let's just let it go ay LOL .
 
Elaborate on your theory as i'm kind of lost what or whom are you referring too or is it
even relevant to this topic ? .

I guess they believe you're the same member who quit the forum a couple of days before you signed up here.
He also had a habit of starting threads, and when they didn't go the way he wanted them to go he asked to get them closed.

I don't believe you're him, but I do get a feeling that it's something familiar about you. But I can be wrong of course :)
 
Wait. So you start a thread about a topic but fear said topic will simply open up a Pandora's Box? Then why start the thread in the first place then? If you have something to say, then share! If you have some dynamite material then I'm certain the community would love to hear it! If you have facts and evidence, crack on!
 
Wait. So you start a thread about a topic but fear said topic will simply open up a Pandora's Box? Then why start the thread in the first place then? If you have something to say, then share! If you have some dynamite material then I'm certain the community would love to hear it! If you have facts and evidence, crack on!

Captain Chaos ,

(a)
Very well firstly I would like you to refer to the following threads as the community is already discussing questionable practices :

https://www.casinomeister.com/forum...-and-cs-costing-players-their-winnings.64568/

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/very-poor-guts-casino.66305/

(b)
When your done reading we shall continue :

1. For some time now I've been observing and recording various glitches which seem to occur within Netent and MGS software the majority of which occurs
not from the start of play but randomly under the following conditions :

2. When a Big Win Hits (Game has to be reloaded to see it)
3. When a Feature Hit's (Game has to be reloaded to see it)
4. Mid Win Streak (Game has crashed after 3+ good hits in a row)

The Software crashes and comes up with an error i'm sure many have seen the different types of errors before so i need not explain them again to you
now let us move on to the topic of the base RTP which is reset upon a software crash I know this as I've had it confirmed and without beating around
the bush as it seems people are eager to have this out lets begin the real crux of the matter and I don't appreciate the bully tactics and comments
like 'Bollocks' you can either talk properly or the conversation ends these are the conditions I will set for this discussion that accepted let us move on.

Now with regards to the RNG Random Number Generator which cycles constantly the results are indeed random with every push but there is a link between
the RTP , the RNG , and the software programs they are all linked and function together.
As the Theoretical Return to Player Percentage Rises from wagering eventually there is going to be more activity as the Percentage rises I've seen it happen
but it can happen to anybody playing the slot just better for some than others depending on the server set up and what software is running to remotely
administrate the various software which the casino is running.

RTP's can be remotely controlled by the Casino at the push of a button and land based casino's can change their RTP at will by Replacing the EPROM chip's
or if their up to date push a key and remote update it. (remotely)

These random error's have occurred at casino's I've played at and I'm simply not at liberty to tell you who they are as you probably already know
do I really need to spell things out ? with common sense I think the community can find out for themselves if A > B then go with A .
 
Captain Chaos ,

(a)
Very well firstly I would like you to refer to the following threads as the community is already discussing questionable practices :

https://www.casinomeister.com/forum...-and-cs-costing-players-their-winnings.64568/

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/very-poor-guts-casino.66305/

(b)
When your done reading we shall continue :

1. For some time now I've been observing and recording various glitches which seem to occur within Netent and MGS software the majority of which occurs
not from the start of play but randomly under the following conditions :

2. When a Big Win Hits (Game has to be reloaded to see it)
3. When a Feature Hit's (Game has to be reloaded to see it)
4. Mid Win Streak (Game has crashed after 3+ good hits in a row)

The Software crashes and comes up with an error i'm sure many have seen the different types of errors before so i need not explain them again to you
now let us move on to the topic of the base RTP which is reset upon a software crash I know this as I've had it confirmed and without beating around
the bush as it seems people are eager to have this out lets begin the real crux of the matter and I don't appreciate the bully tactics and comments
like 'Bollocks' you can either talk properly or the conversation ends these are the conditions I will set for this discussion that accepted let us move on.

Now with regards to the RNG Random Number Generator which cycles constantly the results are indeed random with every push but there is a link between
the RTP , the RNG , and the software programs they are all linked and function together.
As the Theoretical Return to Player Percentage Rises from wagering eventually there is going to be more activity as the Percentage rises I've seen it happen
but it can happen to anybody playing the slot just better for some than others depending on the server set up and what software is running to remotely
administrate the various software which the casino is running.

RTP's can be remotely controlled by the Casino at the push of a button and land based casino's can change their RTP at will by Replacing the EPROM chip's
or if their up to date push a key and remote update it. (remotely)

These random error's have occurred at casino's I've played at and I'm simply not at liberty to tell you who they are as you probably already know
do I really need to spell things out ? with common sense I think the community can find out for themselves if A > B then go with A .

The base RTP gets reset upon a crash? That doesn't make any sense. Are you saying these types of slots are compensated like the pub fruities alluded to earlier?

And, casinos have no control of the RTP settings of their slots. That is built in by the slot designers. Besides, there is no need to control any of that. As long as the TRTP is less than 100% the casinos will win in the long run and that's what they do.

This has been debated here for a long time and with all the members here who have been involved in the casinos end of the business no one has ever been able to show any of these types of behavior from reputable software suppliers and I believe the cost to the industry would be too high to play games like you are describing.
 
Captain Chaos ,

(a)
Very well firstly I would like you to refer to the following threads as the community is already discussing questionable practices :

https://www.casinomeister.com/forum...-and-cs-costing-players-their-winnings.64568/

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/very-poor-guts-casino.66305/

(b)
When your done reading we shall continue :

1. For some time now I've been observing and recording various glitches which seem to occur within Netent and MGS software the majority of which occurs
not from the start of play but randomly under the following conditions :

2. When a Big Win Hits (Game has to be reloaded to see it)
3. When a Feature Hit's (Game has to be reloaded to see it)
4. Mid Win Streak (Game has crashed after 3+ good hits in a row)

The Software crashes and comes up with an error i'm sure many have seen the different types of errors before so i need not explain them again to you
now let us move on to the topic of the base RTP which is reset upon a software crash I know this as I've had it confirmed and without beating around
the bush as it seems people are eager to have this out lets begin the real crux of the matter and I don't appreciate the bully tactics and comments
like 'Bollocks' you can either talk properly or the conversation ends these are the conditions I will set for this discussion that accepted let us move on.

Now with regards to the RNG Random Number Generator which cycles constantly the results are indeed random with every push but there is a link between
the RTP , the RNG , and the software programs they are all linked and function together.
As the Theoretical Return to Player Percentage Rises from wagering eventually there is going to be more activity as the Percentage rises I've seen it happen
but it can happen to anybody playing the slot just better for some than others depending on the server set up and what software is running to remotely
administrate the various software which the casino is running.

RTP's can be remotely controlled by the Casino at the push of a button and land based casino's can change their RTP at will by Replacing the EPROM chip's
or if their up to date push a key and remote update it. (remotely)

These random error's have occurred at casino's I've played at and I'm simply not at liberty to tell you who they are as you probably already know
do I really need to spell things out ? with common sense I think the community can find out for themselves if A > B then go with A .

That just earns you a second set of "bollocks". It is your choice not to "name & shame" where you encountered such software errors, nothing to do with "legal reasons" as you implied earlier. Yes, we are all aware of the blight of software errors, but we also are aware that any attempt to rig the games will be spotted eventually. We have known for some years about RTG being able to set the TRTP between 3 settings on their slots, and a similar number of settings on their tables. We even know that RTG denied it until they got caught out by the "double pear" that occurred on their slot "fruit frenzy" only on the lowest setting, but not the mainly used 95% setting. Now, if you are referring to RTG in all this, we know already, and have had the debate as to whether it can be done "on the fly" by the operator, on a per player basis, or indeed only once every 6 months at most upon application to RTG, which is the "official" response from RTG once they realised this particular "Pandora's box" was open and we had hidden the key.

The rogue pit contains around half a dozen "rogue software" entries from developers that were "busted" by the community for running software that could be tampered with in the way you describe. All that is needed is a big enough dataset of results and the right statistical approach, and you can show that it is more than 95% likely that a given game developer or operator is "cheating".

An "RTP reset" only has an effect on a non random "compensated" game. For a random game, all it does is wipe the log file of past results, which has no effect on future outcomes. If Microgaming decided to "RTP reset" all it's slots, we would see the "slot temperatures" all go to 80.0, but we would all realise that it didn't make the slightest difference to our chances of winning.
 
I'm not saying the OP is right, But I'm sure a lot of players, even the experienced ones have had similar thoughts at one time or another.

Just last night I had a strange experience at CasinoLuck. I took the 50% reload bonus on £50, giving a WR of £975. Played through most of the WR, on TSII and DOA, my balance didn't go particularly high or low, and the games were running fairly smooth.
But when I had only around £200 left to wager, and £150 balance, the reels on DOA just spun and spun. So i reloaded the game, and where before I was getting a little win here and there, the game was stone cold after the reload and my balance nose-dived.
After a few hundred, almost, dead spins. I decided to reload the game again, not for any particular reason, just superstition, and started spinning again, after a couple of spins 4 scatters dropped in, and it was only when I looked at the 'win box' and saw £22.50 for the 4 scatters that I realised that when I'd done the last reload I'd forgotten to change my stake down to 27p and I'd been spinning at the default 90p.

So... the free spins started and one wild dropped on the first spin then this appeared.

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So loaded it up again, I still had my 11 spins to go, and my one wild was in position. But it was the only wild that appeared, and I only won a few more pounds.

I'm not saying I'd have done any better had the game not crashed. But you can't help but wonder at the timing of the crash and considering I was playing at a higher stake than previously.....
 

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