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Philip

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Hi everyone,

We are always striving to make Videoslots.com better and more innovative and we have some great news for you guys.

We have now implemented a new feature under Responsible Gaming where you can control your maximum spin/bet. Should you set a limit of €5 it is simply not possible to make a spin/bet over €5. Should you wish to change or remove the limit, the change is instant. This also applies to gamble feature which some games have. The gamble feature counts as a bet/spin and should you use it to bet more than your limit allows, you will be stopped as well.

This max bet protection will also protect you from failing a bonus due to a bet/spin bigger than allowed. Basically during bonus mode, you cannot make bets/spins larger than what your bonus allows.

If you have any feedback we are more than happy to hear it from you guys.

// Philip
 
The best news I've heard in a long time. :thumbsup:

Can I set as low limit as $1?
I never bet higher so it will stop me from go over that by mistake.
 
sounds great now please show other sites as well how you did it ;) it should be a standard on every site that way you can not like
you said bet over max allowed when playing a bonus :)
 
What a truly excellent idea! Would you be able to get this facility to automatically apply itself when a bonus is being used with betting restrictions? God knows from reading this forum it's the one feature that would be truly player friendly!
 
The best news I've heard in a long time. :thumbsup:

Can I set as low limit as $1?
I never bet higher so it will stop me from go over that by mistake.

Hi Tirilej,

Thanks for the positive feedback.

Yes, you should be able to set any limit you want.

// Philip
 
What a truly excellent idea! Would you be able to get this facility to automatically apply itself when a bonus is being used with betting restrictions? God knows from reading this forum it's the one feature that would be truly player friendly!

Hi Captain Chaos,

Yes, we have already done this. When you are playing with a bonus, this feature is automatically activated to prevent players from placing bets/spins higher than allowed.

// Philip
 
Hi Tirilej,

Thanks for the positive feedback.

Yes, you should be able to set any limit you want.

// Philip

It's a dream for lowrollers like me:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy
If you can do it then anyone can, and we will not hear anyone losing their entire bankroll on one bet anymore.

I hope MG are reading this too:rolleyes:

Bryan! It's just January but this should go in for next years award for the most player friendly award or something :)
 
Hi everyone,

We are always striving to make Videoslots.com better and more innovative and we have some great news for you guys.

We have now implemented a new feature under Responsible Gaming where you can control your maximum spin/bet. Should you set a limit of €5 it is simply not possible to make a spin/bet over €5. Should you wish to change or remove the limit, the change is instant. This also applies to gamble feature which some games have. The gamble feature counts as a bet/spin and should you use it to bet more than your limit allows, you will be stopped as well.

This max bet protection will also protect you from failing a bonus due to a bet/spin bigger than allowed. Basically during bonus mode, you cannot make bets/spins larger than what your bonus allows.

If you have any feedback we are more than happy to hear it from you guys.

// Philip

Excellent! Idiot-proofing bonuses is something that has been clamoured for on here for a while.
Just one point you need to clarify - you state 'instantly' as regards changing the limit of say a $5 max bet.
Usually on RG settings any increase in any limit usually carries a 7-day cooling off period. Is that the case with the max bet?, otherwise it's pointless as the player will change it at will.
 
Excellent! Idiot-proofing bonuses is something that has been clamoured for on here for a while.
Just one point you need to clarify - you state 'instantly' as regards changing the limit of say a $5 max bet.
Usually on RG settings any increase in any limit usually carries a 7-day cooling off period. Is that the case with the max bet?, otherwise it's pointless as the player will change it at will.

Meaningless? Think that's a tad harsh. I'd have thought the main reason for this would be to prevent accidental bets over the players pre-determined limited rather than as a responsible gaming feature.
 
Excellent! Idiot-proofing bonuses is something that has been clamoured for on here for a while.
Just one point you need to clarify - you state 'instantly' as regards changing the limit of say a $5 max bet.
Usually on RG settings any increase in any limit usually carries a 7-day cooling off period. Is that the case with the max bet?, otherwise it's pointless as the player will change it at will.

Why would that be needed? The max bet is for your own protection.
Of course you need to be able to change it when you want to. Otherwise it might stop people from using it in the first place.
 
Webzcas obviously understands what I was getting at!

We have now implemented a new feature under Responsible Gaming where you can control your maximum spin/bet. Should you set a limit of €5 it is simply not possible to make a spin/bet over €5. Should you wish to change or remove the limit, the change is instant.

Philip clearly states RESPONSIBLE GAMING SECTION. Having a self-imposed limit which can be changed at will, instantly is not RG! All RG settings have a minimum (if increasing exposure) cooling-off delay of 24hours and (most usually) 7 days.
:rolleyes:

P.S. This is a great site, but one which once tried describing a loss-limit as a 'deposit limit' which is a totally different thing.
 
Webczas obviously understands what I was getting at!



Philip clearly states RESPONSIBLE GAMING SECTION. Having a self-imposed limit which can be changed at will, instantly is not RG! All RG settings have a minimum (if increasing exposure) cooling-off delay of 24hours and (most usually) 7 days.
:rolleyes:

P.S. This is a great site, but one which once tried describing a loss-limit as a 'deposit limit' which is a totally different thing.

I would guess they are putting it there because there are no other place to have it, not because it have anything to do with RG.
I've never set a limit anywhere before. Here I have a chance to protect myself from the casino, and that's a huge difference to me.
Not that I would mind a day or 7. I just feel it's pointless :)

The most important in this is that it is implemented, so I don't want it do be more difficult for either them or us.
 
Great idea and wish more casinos would implement it so thanks.

Cant see why the big deal about having to have it set for a week tho. The idea was to help players not to control the amount they spend . Its a feature so players cant accidentally gamble too much by hitting max bet and if you are playing a bonus with max bet of £6 you can set it to that till completing of wagering. Then once wagering is done you can remove it and bet whatever you want. Having it stuck there for a week will be annoying to players that are winning and want to increase stakes.
 
I would guess they are putting it there because there are no other place to have it, not because it have anything to do with RG.
I've never set a limit anywhere before. Here I have a chance to protect myself from the casino, and that's a huge difference to me.
Not that I would mind a day or 7. I just feel it's pointless :)

The most important in this is that it is implemented, so I don't want it do be more difficult for either them or us.

It's a good idea as long as it's implemented well.

You have answered your own question - 'a chance to protect yourself from the casino' which you could do anyway by reading the T&C's properly and betting accordingly!
Nearly all cases and PABs regarding over-betting while under WR are due to the player not reading them. In order to prevent this scenario the idiot-proofing needs to be automatic i.e. you take a bonus and the site automatically prevents over-betting. Because unless the player actually reads the terms properly, they won't know what to set the max bet on, will they?

Therefore, unless Philip informs us that it's automatic, I maintain that it's pointless. If you accidentally hit 'space' on a MG game or the 'max bet' on Netent (probably never or seldom) that's the only time it would be of use as it's described in the OP.
 
It's a good idea as long as it's implemented well.

You have answered your own question - 'a chance to protect yourself from the casino' which you could do anyway by reading the T&C's properly and betting accordingly!
Nearly all cases and PABs regarding over-betting while under WR are due to the player not reading them. In order to prevent this scenario the idiot-proofing needs to be automatic i.e. you take a bonus and the site automatically prevents over-betting. Because unless the player actually reads the terms properly, they won't know what to set the max bet on, will they?

I can't go over any max bet when I only bet as high as $1 so that wasn't my reason. It was to prevent accidently clicking the max bet button.
Pauls reasons is good too.

Sometimes we have to start with small steps and not ask for the world to change immediately. To me this is a small step in the right direction.
 
I can't go over any max bet when I only bet as high as $1 so that wasn't my reason. It was to prevent accidently clicking the max bet button.
Pauls reasons is good too.

Sometimes we have to start with small steps and not ask for the world to change immediately. To me this is a small step in the right direction.

I have just made you 4,000!!!!!

Yes, it's a small step but to me there's no half-measures - it's either fully automatic or don't bother as you still have to check the terms anyway.
 
Reading through this thread, I think its clear that there is more than one reason to have a max bet limit tool. For RG reasons, it would stop the player from playing too much in a single spin, and it has been highlighted on this thread for RG purposes there needs to be a cool off period if the player wants the limit raised.

For bonus purposes, it will be useful to have this in place as an automatic limiter on the size of the bet to ensure bonus T&C's cant be broken.

For gameplay purposes, it will be useful to have this option to ensure that when playing if you accidentally hit the wrong button you dont have a £100 spin instead of a £1 spin.

For all of the above reasons this is a very good idea, but will " One size fits all" work with this limiter option, or is there more thought and discussion required?
 
The rep has already stated that the limit will automatically be set to the maximum allowed, whenever there's a bonus in play

Which is excellent as long as it covers all permutations. The rep has explained about gamble function and there was a pertinent question regarding poker blinds. Will it automatically cut-off after WR has been met? If it is being added to the RG section, is it also (as he said) a separate RG stand-alone tool? If so, then unlike the bonus version it would need a delay if changed upwards. If you set your own RG limit per spin, presumably that would stay static if under the bonus WR spin limit, but if you had set it above the WR limit prior to taking a bonus it would auto-change down? Or is there two separate things going on here, 1 auto-bonus spin-limit tool, and a second separate RG setting?

We need a very detailed explanation to remove any ambiguity and uncertainty.
 
Hi Guys,

First of all, thank you all very much for your feedback!

To start with:
During bonus mode. This feature is automatically enabled and it cannot be removed. Players are 100% protected from betting higher than allowed.

Questions:

- What happens if I have a max bet limit which is higher than the bonus limit?
* You will still be protected by the bonus limit. You will not be able to bet higher than allowed.

- What happens if I have a max bet limit which is lower than the bonus limit?
* You will not be able to bet higher than your own limit as long as its not higher than the bonus limit.

- What happens after I have completed the bonus?
* Then you will not be able to bet higher than your set limit.


Regarding Caribbean Stud.

Thanks for bringing this game to our attention. We need to make some adjustments here to make the max bet function work better. Do you have any other games similar to this in mind that could have a problem?


Regarding Responsible Gaming section.

The thought with this tool was mainly to protect our players during bonus play, to automatically keep their bets within the terms and conditions.
Then we said, why not give an option to players to protect themselves against accidentally hitting the max bet button, so we added it to the responsible gaming section.

After reading all the feedback, we understand there are two needs here. One side want the option to change their bet size instantly and another side want to have a cool off period.
Our solution would be to make the player choose this when he sets his limit, do he want to be able to change it instantly? Or does he want a 7 days cool off period before the new limit activates?
What do you guys think about that?

//Philip‏
 
After reading all the feedback, we understand there are two needs here. One side want the option to change their bet size instantly and another side want to have a cool off period.
Our solution would be to make the player choose this when he sets his limit, do he want to be able to change it instantly? Or does he want a 7 days cool off period before the new limit activates?
What do you guys think about that?

//Philip‏

I think that would be the best way to handle it.
Can someone be so responsable that he set a max bet limit, he should also be responsible enough to know if he maybe need a cool off or not.
 

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