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paul7388

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I'm curious to know, if it's not about bonuses and offers (which this thread was essentially started about), why then didn't the majority of you show your support when I started the 'Igor Appreciation Thread'?

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/betats-igor-appreciation-thread.63658/?t=63658

Know that I'm not passing judgement here, but that thread was designed to act much like a petition to show Igor he was appreciated and try to convince him to stay, however the response was very underwhelming, and if I was Igor I'd probably find it quite discouraging, as I myself did.

Like I said, no judgement, but I find it interesting that some of you preaching rep appreciation, weren't involved in the above mentioned thread, when that appreciation was probably more needed than ever at that time. Just makes me think about some of the comments you've made.

And just in case it's mentioned, your dislike of me is no excuse, as that should be set aside for worthy causes, and the thread was about Igor, not me. ;)

I honestly don't know why you need to keep casting up the past. But to use a quote ive posted then make reference to dislike of you is not really fair.

I'm making the guess that you weren't meaning me that dislikes you tho I am not sure. But I have never actually said or did anything that would give the impression that I dislike you.
 
I honestly don't know why you need to keep casting up the past. But to use a quote ive posted then make reference to dislike of you is not really fair.

I'm making the guess that you weren't meaning me that dislikes you tho I am not sure. But I have never actually said or did anything that would give the impression that I dislike you.

Easy there Paul, don't take the comments personally. I have no beef with you, and don't intend to start any.

It was just a general question, as the topic shifted from its original topic into a rep appreciation discussion, and some of the passionate responses confused me, that's all. I'm not sure what you mean by constantly "casting up the past", but I referenced the past, as this thread reminded me of that occasion, and the disappointment I felt for Igor when the response to that thread was slim.

I don't think I'd be wrong in suggesting that was a fairly big instance of a rep appreciation situation. Hence it's not a huge stretch to imagine I might reference it given its recent history. I'm sure you too reference past occasions in your posts, so not sure what's meant by your comments in that regard.

As for liking me, I do not assume you don't like me, and actually think we are all good. However, I'm not oblivious to the fact there are a few out there who don't like me, and at the time of the Igor thread, I received a number of pm's telling me another member had pm'd them all, trying to garner support against me, hence I assumed this may have been the reason responses were minimal in that thread I created.

Like I said, I don't really care who doesn't like me Paul, but my point was, even those who might do, should have put that aside for one moment to show their appreciation for Igor, if they do indeed truly appreciate reps.

Anyway, hope that clarifies my comments. Don't take them personally as they're not directly about you, however I quoted you as you mentioned some points I wished to address.

Can we be friends again now? ;)
 
I'm curious to know, if it's not about bonuses and offers (which this thread was essentially started about), why then didn't the majority of you show your support when I started the 'Igor Appreciation Thread'?

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/betats-igor-appreciation-thread.63658/?t=63658

Know that I'm not passing judgement here, but that thread was designed to act much like a petition to show Igor he was appreciated and try to convince him to stay, however the response was very underwhelming, and if I was Igor I'd probably find it quite discouraging, as I myself did.

Like I said, no judgement, but I find it interesting that some of you preaching rep appreciation, weren't involved in the above mentioned thread, when that appreciation was probably more needed than ever at that time. Just makes me think about some of the comments you've made.

And just in case it's mentioned, your dislike of me is no excuse, as that should be set aside for worthy causes, and the thread was about Igor, not me. ;)



Easy dude, it's because another member had already started an Igor please reconsider section which you read and thanked. Then you started this new "Igor Appreciation thread." IMO it ain't cool to take someone's original idea and paste your name on it by starting a new thread without acknowledging where the idea came from. IMO your thread bombed because people found you kinda funky. And that's just my opinion.
 
Easy dude, it's because another member had already started an Igor please reconsider section which you read and thanked. Then you started this new "Igor Appreciation thread." IMO it ain't cool to take someone's original idea and paste your name on it by starting a new thread without acknowledging where the idea came from. IMO your thread bombed because people found you kinda funky. And that's just my opinion.

You're wrong in so many ways, but you've made your intentions clear.

At first I thought you may have received a pm from someone given the hostility in your comments, and the fact I remembered seeing that you had posted in the thread I started on Igor.

However, on closer inspection, and after reading your comments in that thread again, I now see where your misguided hostility has come from. It's funny, because I now remember when I initially read that post of yours and had no idea what you meant, but now it's been made clear, lol. I quote :

"LOL ........ wonder how someone thought to start this thread?

No matter how it came to be, Igor's many contributions to the forum are utmost in our minds ........... no matter who thought of it first."

You poor thing. To imagine you've been harvesting this resentment towards me all this time over what must have been a terribly traumatic experience for you. I couldn't imagine the shock you must have felt when you discovered someone had so ruthlessly stolen and plagiarized your thread idea.

Anyway, in case you didn't notice, the above contained plenty of sarcasm. If you honestly think I started that thread with the intention to steal your thunder or thread idea, then you my friend are frankly crazy. I'm not sure how old you are, but that kind of thing is beneath me.

However, I apologize if that's how you felt, and I'll also update that thread so it is clear to everyone that such a thread was originally your idea. The purpose of the thread was to make it about one person, and that was Igor, but if individual praise is important to you, whether I think it is inappropriately placed or wanted, then I am happy to concur.

I'm not sure if you've noticed at all, but I don't post with the intention of winning praise or friends. Although I may find your above comments selfish and a little crazy, I can appreciate there are some here that do.

I hope you'll be able to sleep easier now.

PS. Where I come from, being funky is kind of a cool thing. Kind of like being phat, or just being plain fat. But I get what you were saying. :thumbsup:

Anyone else need clarification on anything? :D
 
I don't think that is anything to laugh about. Promos and special offers are a way for the casinos to show that they appreciate us, and I can assure you that we appreciate feeling special. Nothing wrong about that :)

A thread is about what we want it to be about.
There is a reason why so many reps have stopped posting, and I think that is important to talk about too.
Also our behaviour towards them, the lack of respect many are showing.

This place is not just for gamblers. It's for everyone in the industry.

Yeah ok Tirilej, nice speech. :rolleyes:

What is funny is your persistent and frankly embarrassing underlying vendetta towards me.

Seriously, grow up and get over yourself. You may have some fooled, but there's enough sensible members here to see exactly what you're trying to do, so just give it up.

In the meantime, I'll start taking you seriously when I stop getting pm's from other members telling me about your last pm to them slagging me off. ;)

I've told you before, you may think your persistent campaign is clever, however I can assure you I'm more persistent, and more clever, and also have age and experience on my side.

You've made it clear repeatedly that you have no intention of reaching a truce, so this will only end once you realize I can't be broken, and you don't have the support of the masses you may think you do.

I can't be manipulated and see through your every move. It would also seem that judging by the pm's I'm receiving, you're slowly losing your manipulative hold of others. Keep goating me in your posts, and you will get the reaction you're digging for.

Build a bridge, and if you have something to say about me, pm me about it and leave other members alone. I'm starting to feel embarrassed for both of us.

I should apologize for going off topic, but waking up to some funny yet interesting pm's needed to be addressed.
 
Ok guys, lets knock it off. A perfectly good thread is being wrecked by a bunch of personal agendas that most of us either don't care about - or don't want to read. Please keep personal items to yourself, or PM them or send them in an email.

Thank you for your obedience.
 
You're wrong in so many ways, but you've made your intentions clear.

At first I thought you may have received a pm from someone given the hostility in your comments, and the fact I remembered seeing that you had posted in the thread I started on Igor.

However, on closer inspection, and after reading your comments in that thread again, I now see where your misguided hostility has come from. It's funny, because I now remember when I initially read that post of yours and had no idea what you meant, but now it's been made clear, lol. I quote :

"LOL ........ wonder how someone thought to start this thread?

No matter how it came to be, Igor's many contributions to the forum are utmost in our minds ........... no matter who thought of it first."

You poor thing. To imagine you've been harvesting this resentment towards me all this time over what must have been a terribly traumatic experience for you. I couldn't imagine the shock you must have felt when you discovered someone had so ruthlessly stolen and plagiarized your thread idea.

Anyway, in case you didn't notice, the above contained plenty of sarcasm. If you honestly think I started that thread with the intention to steal your thunder or thread idea, then you my friend are frankly crazy. I'm not sure how old you are, but that kind of thing is beneath me.

However, I apologize if that's how you felt, and I'll also update that thread so it is clear to everyone that such a thread was originally your idea. The purpose of the thread was to make it about one person, and that was Igor, but if individual praise is important to you, whether I think it is inappropriately placed or wanted, then I am happy to concur.

I'm not sure if you've noticed at all, but I don't post with the intention of winning praise or friends. Although I may find your above comments selfish and a little crazy, I can appreciate there are some here that do.

I hope you'll be able to sleep easier now.

PS. Where I come from, being funky is kind of a cool thing. Kind of like being phat, or just being plain fat. But I get what you were saying. :thumbsup:

Anyone else need clarification on anything? :D



Got some serious hostility issues there?

My post was more about you using proper manners than about me seeking your approval.

In the civilized world and how it is demonstrated many times daily in this forum, when you further another's post or idea, it is just good manners to add "as (user name) previously mentioned" or however you feel comfortable phrasing it. Doesn't have to be a big deal.

BTW I am 59 years old, well educated and sleep very well, thank you for asking.
 
Got some serious hostility issues there?

My post was more about you using proper manners than about me seeking your approval.

In the civilized world and how it is demonstrated many times daily in this forum, when you further another's post or idea, it is just good manners to add "as (user name) previously mentioned" or however you feel comfortable phrasing it. Doesn't have to be a big deal.

BTW I am 59 years old, well educated and sleep very well, thank you for asking.

You missed Bryan's post above? :rolleyes:

Grow up, build a bridge, have a beer, walk your cat, have a nanna nap.

Best advice I can give you. ;)

Sorry Bryan.
 
Good thinking Paul, but you probably should have just had this rubbish deleted rather than inviting any more minions to have a crack. ;)

Probably not a bad idea to have the whole thread deleted if possible? :rolleyes:

Edit: My apologies Paul, just noticed it was Bryan who moved this here, so just swap Bryan's name for yours above.
 
You missed Bryan's post above? :rolleyes:

Grow up, build a bridge, have a beer, walk your cat, have a nanna nap.

Best advice I can give you. ;)

Sorry Bryan.

If you look at the time stamp, Suzecat typed her comment 2 minutes after Bryans warning which means she was probably typing while he posted his.

You on the other hand had seen the warning, continued to post and actually apologized to Bryan knowing you just did wrong. Very disrespectful to ignore the warnings and do whatever you want.
 
If you look at the time stamp, Suzecat typed her comment 2 minutes after Bryans warning which means she was probably typing while he posted his.

You on the other hand had seen the warning, continued to post and actually apologized to Bryan knowing you just did wrong. Very disrespectful to ignore the warnings and do whatever you want.

Lol, that didn't take long at all. :rolleyes:

Welcome to a totally insignificant and irrelevant discussion BMWSTACK. Your thoughts and opinions are duly noted, and I'm sure Suzecat will appreciate your sentiments.

Good for you buddy.:thumbsup:

Next. :lolup:
 
Lol, that didn't take long at all. :rolleyes:

Welcome to a totally insignificant and irrelevant discussion BMWSTACK. Your thoughts and opinions are duly noted, and I'm sure Suzecat will appreciate your sentiments.

Good for you buddy.:thumbsup:

Next. :lolup:

Yeah the discussion was thrown over to this derail thread so anything is relevant at this point, but my post was a matter of fact to help point out that suzecat might have missed Bryans warning. You on the other hand did not, and its obvious you could careless about following instruction, taking advice or constructive criticism. You cannot help yourself in needing to have the last word.

If you enjoy this forum its probably best to cool it down a bit. I see you have a recent infraction , and I believe a few in the past. If it keeps going your probably likely to see a ban.
 
Is it me or has everyone on CM lost there fricking minds this month. I swear every thread I have read in past 2 weeks has been filled with hostility. More negative post here then I have ever seen. Not a good way to enjoy my first cup of coffee. Can we all just be friends again and stop all the negativity.

I swear its been like 2 cats in an ally fighting over the last can of tuna fish.
 
Is it me or has everyone on CM lost there fricking minds this month. I swear every thread I have read in past 2 weeks has been filled with hostility. More negative post here then I have ever seen. Not a good way to enjoy my first cup of coffee. Can we all just be friends again and stop all the negativity.

I swear its been like 2 cats in an ally fighting over the last can of tuna fish.

Lol can cats open a tin of tuna:D

But I agree with all you say:thumbsup:
 
Can we all just be friends again and stop all the negativity.

I was thinking the same thing, in fact the thread reminded me of a song and I was playing it while I read your comment.

I think Azzurrigate has run it's course and time we all move on.
 

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Yeah the discussion was thrown over to this derail thread so anything is relevant at this point, but my post was a matter of fact to help point out that suzecat might have missed Bryans warning. You on the other hand did not, and its obvious you could careless about following instruction, taking advice or constructive criticism. You cannot help yourself in needing to have the last word.

If you enjoy this forum its probably best to cool it down a bit. I see you have a recent infraction , and I believe a few in the past. If it keeps going your probably likely to see a ban.



I did not know about the infraction(s) :eek2: Maybe I should spend more time with the other CAP "minions" to help keep me up to date. Much thanks for the multiple heads up :notworthy
 
Is it me or has everyone on CM lost there fricking minds this month. I swear every thread I have read in past 2 weeks has been filled with hostility. More negative post here then I have ever seen. Not a good way to enjoy my first cup of coffee. Can we all just be friends again and stop all the negativity.

I think expecting everyone to be friends is a bit much, but I think it should be possible to disagree with someone - or even dislike them - without dragging it through the forum every day. Once a month should be sufficient. :)
 
Too much bitching going on in the world as it is, personally I come here every day in my downtime to chill and read about people's great wins or unfortunate dispute with a casino. Not to see 2 people squabble over petty stuff.

Never mind who said what in which thread, as a kid I was always taught 2 wrongs don't make a right or it takes the bigger person to walk away.

If you can't get on just ignore each other and crack on, you both seem highly intelligent people given the decent posts you make. Yet the squabbling is so infantile.
 
Yeah the discussion was thrown over to this derail thread so anything is relevant at this point, but my post was a matter of fact to help point out that suzecat might have missed Bryans warning. You on the other hand did not, and its obvious you could careless about following instruction, taking advice or constructive criticism. You cannot help yourself in needing to have the last word.

If you enjoy this forum its probably best to cool it down a bit. I see you have a recent infraction , and I believe a few in the past. If it keeps going your probably likely to see a ban.

BMWSTACK you always talk as if you know me so well. You don't mate, so no need to repeat yourself.

Regarding the last word, you're kidding right? Maybe we have something in common after all.

My philosophy is simple mate. If you want to dish it out, be prepared and willing to get it straight back.

Some of you like to preach a lot, however you are oblivious to the fact that what you say may be construed as being offensive. You all like to tell people how to act more like yourselves, but news flash, not everyone is over 50 and can say what ever they like without repercussions because they've been on this forum since the Internet was invented.

The biggest difference between me you and people like suzecat is, I can take what I dish out without having to report someone when I can no longer think of a witty comeback.

And just to clarify, my infraction was due to telling suzecat to grow up after she called me a piece of work and clueless. I received the infraction for abuse?

The only thing I'm sorry for, is for making Bryan have to deal with the added work of processing a reported post and subsequent infraction over such a nothing comment.

Again it's quickest to the report button who survives the longest. I might have to start using it.

Suzecat, you seem perplexed on hearing of my infraction. Let me explain for you dear. See when you start an argument you lose control of, and you then decide your only form of response is to report someone, well then that person gets an infraction.

Hope that explains it.

Next minion please. :thumbsup:

And BMWSTACK, don't go repeating the same post for a third time please. Let someone else have a go. I'm sure the troops will be comin round the corner when they come (age appropriate joke that one). :D
 
Too much bitching going on in the world as it is, personally I come here every day in my downtime to chill and read about people's great wins or unfortunate dispute with a casino. Not to see 2 people squabble over petty stuff.

Never mind who said what in which thread, as a kid I was always taught 2 wrongs don't make a right or it takes the bigger person to walk away.

If you can't get on just ignore each other and crack on, you both seem highly intelligent people given the decent posts you make. Yet the squabbling is so infantile.

I agree, however the problem is it's never a 2 person discussion. You may have noticed a little click, and if you say something to one, the other 4 or 5 get a quick pm, and before you know it you're having a disagreement with all of them, thus dragging it out unnecessarily.

It's always the same usual suspects too. Like I've said before, I want to enjoy this forum just like everybody else, but if you come at me, be prepared for a response. Don't then go crying when you don't like the response I give you.

This is all general talk and not directed at you PNEFOREVER2. I'm sure it's obvious who I'm talking to.

There's a lot of members here who like to scream blue murder whilst holding a butchers clever above their heads.

Too many geese and not enough ganders.
 
What the hell wasn't planning posting again but might as well.

Azzurri I understand in a way where you are coming from .

I don't see the point in going In someone reporting a post when they have argued with that person as both would be as bad as the other. Besides no need as Bryan sees whats happening so if he thinks its gone too far its his place to deal with it.

Its a forum here and not everyone likes each other, I personally don't really have any friends here and I know theres one or two who probably dislike me but that doesn't bother me. Point is I will normally state my point whether members like it or not but I don't continuously bring it up. No offence Azzurri but I know you defend yourself as you feel you are getting attacked but sometimes its better to state your point and leave it at that. Ignore members if they annoy you that much.

Way I look at it is everyone seemed glad that Johnny got banned ( I stuck up for the guy even tho I got criticised for it) for being a right pain. Rightly so but are all these arguments between the same people in different threads really not just as bad. As someone pointed out they come here to read posts not see the same fights scattered through forum on a regular basis.

I'm not taking any sides just pointing out maybe its time people either moved on for sake of others or just ignored each other.
 
My philosophy is simple mate. If you want to dish it out, be prepared and willing to get it straight back.

Some of you like to preach a lot, however you are oblivious to the fact that what you say may be construed as being offensive. You all like to tell people how to act more like yourselves, but news flash, not everyone is over 50 and can say what ever they like without repercussions because they've been on this forum since the Internet was invented.

And just to clarify, my infraction was due to telling suzecat to grow up after she called me a piece of work and clueless. I received the infraction for abuse?

Again it's quickest to the report button who survives the longest. I might have to start using it.

Exactly, you constantly think everything is a fight. I think you fail to read any substance and look for a reason to fight back.

We all post in different styles and none of us are exempt from being disciplined. It just so happens you go off the deep end way to often and get way too personal.

I would say your infraction probably has more to do with disrespecting the forum administrator by posting more nonsense after you were warned.

Reporting a post doesn't necessarily mean someone will get an infraction just because you push it. It needs to be reviewed. Your posts that are reported are probably scrutinized even further because you have infractions in the past, basically your on a short leash.

Unfortunately I would say your time is probably limited here.
 
What the hell wasn't planning posting again but might as well.

Azzurri I understand in a way where you are coming from .

I don't see the point in going In someone reporting a post when they have argued with that person as both would be as bad as the other. Besides no need as Bryan sees whats happening so if he thinks its gone too far its his place to deal with it.

Its a forum here and not everyone likes each other, I personally don't really have any friends here and I know theres one or two who probably dislike me but that doesn't bother me. Point is I will normally state my point whether members like it or not but I don't continuously bring it up. No offence Azzurri but I know you defend yourself as you feel you are getting attacked but sometimes its better to state your point and leave it at that. Ignore members if they annoy you that much.

Way I look at it is everyone seemed glad that Johnny got banned ( I stuck up for the guy even tho I got criticised for it) for being a right pain. Rightly so but are all these arguments between the same people in different threads really not just as bad. As someone pointed out they come here to read posts not see the same fights scattered through forum on a regular basis.

I'm not taking any sides just pointing out maybe its time people either moved on for sake of others or just ignored each other.

I get what you're saying Paul, and appreciate your comments.

I agree with a lot you said, however please clarify. What have I continuously brought up? Think long and hard about that one before responding. Are you sure it's I who is continually bringing things up?

Just because I ask a question or seek clarification about a past occurrence which may be relevant to a current conversation, doesn't mean I deserve to be attacked or jumped on. Maybe others are holding on to past hostilities and getting a little trigger happy every time I say something that strikes a nerve.

Problem is it seems like I'm the one continually going on, but it's an illusion caused by all the same minions coming out of the woodwork every time, thus having to then address each one as they each take their turn at you.

By my calculations there's still another 2 or 3 yet to come, so hold onto your hats. It's like clockwork, lol.

And if any coffee was hurt in the making of all this I do apologize.
 
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