Casino Owner Correction Allslots Casino and Alljackpots Casino no longer Jackpot Factory

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Hi all, I just got an email informing me of new support telephone numbers for Allslots, Alljackpots, Wild Jack and First Web. Looks like they are now part of the Digimedia group which we know is connected to the Fortune Lounge Group. At the end of the email I found this:

2014, all rights reserved®. All Jackpots® and All Jackpots Casino® are registered trademarks.

Digimedia Ltd, of Villa Seminia 8, Sir Temi Zammit Avenue, Malta, is authorized and licensed by the Lotteries and Gaming Authority of Malta. License numbers LGA/CL1/542/2008 and LGA/CL3/542/2008 were both issued on 16 June 2010



So they are no longer Jackpot Factory Group because it wasn't anywhere on the email. I titled the thread casino owner correction because I wasn't sure what else to use.

Cheers

Bryan's full writeup on All Jackpots Casino here.
 
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Exactly, I've wrote this in another thread. They are all Digimedia.

They are taking over. I was sure this issue was brought up before but today was the first time I received an email which sort of confirms this for me. The email was notifying me of the new contact numbers which made me suspicious and then down the bottom of the page was info regarding Digimedia. Can't see why they couldn't just come out and say it instead of all this cloak and dagger BS.

So the information should be changed in the accredited section that this group of casinos is now Digimedia.

What I really would like to know is does Digimdedia own everything or do Fortune Lounge own Digimedia?

Edit: I just looked back at an email I got at the end of March and had nexigames so the change to Digimedia must have been very recent.
 
Same thing some time ago with EuroPalace. As it was new it was another company behind , BUT all the layouts, skins, winners section etc.. looked like i knew them from the Fortune Lounge Casinos. As I asked in chat if they were Fortune Lounge, i was always told no no we are independent.. Few months later the takeover was officially announced, but everybody could recognize what was the matter months before.

Its nothing bad, i mean Digimedia is a solid reputable group, so you can be safe. I think this hiding and declining at first is some business practise which may have its reasons and is above my thinking as customer. Anyway thank you for reading the fineprint in the phonenumberchange email, i just read the headline ;)

cheers
cox
 
Same thing some time ago with EuroPalace. As it was new it was another company behind , BUT all the layouts, skins, winners section etc.. looked like i knew them from the Fortune Lounge Casinos. As I asked in chat if they were Fortune Lounge, i was always told no no we are independent.. Few months later the takeover was officially announced, but everybody could recognize what was the matter months before.

Its nothing bad, i mean Digimedia is a solid reputable group, so you can be safe. I think this hiding and declining at first is some business practise which may have its reasons and is above my thinking as customer. Anyway thank you for reading the fineprint in the phonenumberchange email, i just read the headline ;)

cheers
cox

Digimedia may be as solid as a rock however they now control Fortune Lounge Group,Europalace and Jackpot Factory group and probably a few others. Monopolies are not a good thing in my idea and the bigger the organization the worse off the customer is IMHO. Players start to become numbers and personal touches are lost. This is always bad for the individual player IMHO.
 
Digimedia may be as solid as a rock however they now control Fortune Lounge Group,Europalace and Jackpot Factory group and probably a few others. Monopolies are not a good thing in my idea and the bigger the organization the worse off the customer is IMHO. Players start to become numbers and personal touches are lost. This is always bad for the individual player IMHO.

Sure, the danger that you describe is surely a possible negative effect, that can but must not be the outcome. Sofar i can mostly speak for Fortune Lounge, which always maintained the same high level of quality service for me. maybe some people which regularly play at allslots can comment in which way their service level was (and what improvements they would expect from a change) as i palyed there years ago last time and they were fine.
 
Sure, the danger that you describe is surely a possible negative effect, that can but must not be the outcome. Sofar i can mostly speak for Fortune Lounge, which always maintained the same high level of quality service for me. maybe some people which regularly play at allslots can comment in which way their service level was (and what improvements they would expect from a change) as i palyed there years ago last time and they were fine.

Well Fortune Lounge Group as you know were pulled from the accredited section for their vague terms. Let's hope they don't extend these terms to all the casinos. I wasn't a fan of Fortune Lounge Group because of their pending periods and non flushing of winnings. Last time I had a cashout from Alljackpots it took almost a week to get paid (this was a while ago though).

I just think the bigger the group the less likely they are to listen or to comply to players expectations.

Cheers:thumbsup:
 
Same thing some time ago with EuroPalace. As it was new it was another company behind , BUT all the layouts, skins, winners section etc.. looked like i knew them from the Fortune Lounge Casinos. As I asked in chat if they were Fortune Lounge, i was always told no no we are independent.. Few months later the takeover was officially announced, but everybody could recognize what was the matter months before.

Its nothing bad, i mean Digimedia is a solid reputable group, so you can be safe. I think this hiding and declining at first is some business practise which may have its reasons and is above my thinking as customer. Anyway thank you for reading the fineprint in the phonenumberchange email, i just read the headline ;)

cheers
cox

Well, all this cloak and dagger stuff caused some players of Wild Jack to get screwed over, even though ALL the casinos, All Slots, All Jackpots, First Web, and Wild Jack were Nexigames. It means that all along they were connected to each other, they just didn't want to admit it for business reasons. What is NOT OK though is for one of these "business reasons" being to screw players over rather than assist just because assisting would blow the cover of the nature of the arrangement.

Now it seems Nexigames has been bought by Digimedia, and despite Wild Jack supposedly having nothing to do with All Slots et al, all four formed part of the sale. If Wild Jack really WERE independent from the rest, they would be making their own decisions over this, not following the herd.

Digimedia does now seem to be the "Casino Rewards of the North", but they have not been so open about it as the Aussie company, who proudly list all 30+ casinos that they have hoovered up over the years. The cause is probably the same, bigger groups have more ability to ride the storm of recession, and having a bigger collective float, can cope better with the cash flow variance caused by the nature of operating a casino.

The new phone number is probably an indication that the support centres have moved, possibly as part of the consolidation.
 
Well, all this cloak and dagger stuff caused some players of Wild Jack to get screwed over, even though ALL the casinos, All Slots, All Jackpots, First Web, and Wild Jack were Nexigames. It means that all along they were connected to each other, they just didn't want to admit it for business reasons. What is NOT OK though is for one of these "business reasons" being to screw players over rather than assist just because assisting would blow the cover of the nature of the arrangement.

Now it seems Nexigames has been bought by Digimedia, and despite Wild Jack supposedly having nothing to do with All Slots et al, all four formed part of the sale. If Wild Jack really WERE independent from the rest, they would be making their own decisions over this, not following the herd.

Digimedia does now seem to be the "Casino Rewards of the North", but they have not been so open about it as the Aussie company, who proudly list all 30+ casinos that they have hoovered up over the years. The cause is probably the same, bigger groups have more ability to ride the storm of recession, and having a bigger collective float, can cope better with the cash flow variance caused by the nature of operating a casino.

The new phone number is probably an indication that the support centres have moved, possibly as part of the consolidation.

I also would have preferred that an announcement of some sort regarding ownership in the email along with the change of telephone numbers. They should have respect for their players and tell them what's going on.
 
WinTingo are still listed as Accredited too - and they were also taken over by Fortune Lounge in March 2014.

KK

Their website still lists them as being owned by Pariplay so was Pariplay bought by Fortune Lounge or have they just not updated their website yet?
 
Their website still lists them as being owned by Pariplay so was Pariplay bought by Fortune Lounge or have they just not updated their website yet?
I have no idea.
But I was advised by Fortune Affiliates on April 2nd about them taking it over, and if you click on the Affiliates link it goes to "Fortune Affiliates - Casual Gaming" which is a separate program from the original Fortune Lounge Group, but it is also run by them.

KK
 
I have no idea.
But I was advised by Fortune Affiliates on April 2nd about them taking it over, and if you click on the Affiliates link it goes to "Fortune Affiliates - Casual Gaming" which is a separate program from the original Fortune Lounge Group, but it is also run by them.

KK

What a tangled web.
 
What a tangled web.
My feelings as well.

Digimedia is going to be the company that will running a good number of the South African/Israeli based/owned MGS casino groups. At the moment we have the following:

Referback (Digimedia - ex Bellerock)
Fortune Lounge (Digimedia)
Brightshare/Jackpot Factory
Red Flush Group
Wintingo
Wagershare/Palace group

Am I missing anyone? I am not privy to whatever is going on behind the scenes, but as far as I know it's the way they are choosing to consolidate.

I'm sure the casino groups will be managed and operated separately. At least I would expect them to be. I hope that they realize that they'll only be as strong as the weakest link in the chain. Those are my thoughts on this.
 
My feelings as well.

Digimedia is going to be the company that will running a good number of the South African/Israeli based/owned MGS casino groups. At the moment we have the following:

Referback (Digimedia - ex Bellerock)
Fortune Lounge (Digimedia)
Brightshare/Jackpot Factory
Red Flush Group
Wintingo
Wagershare/Palace group

Am I missing anyone? I am not privy to whatever is going on behind the scenes, but as far as I know it's the way they are choosing to consolidate.

I'm sure the casino groups will be managed and operated separately. At least I would expect them to be. I hope that they realize that they'll only be as strong as the weakest link in the chain. Those are my thoughts on this.

I don't see any signs that Palace Group is a part of Digimedia.
 
My feelings as well.

Digimedia is going to be the company that will running a good number of the South African/Israeli based/owned MGS casino groups. At the moment we have the following:

Referback (Digimedia - ex Bellerock)
Fortune Lounge (Digimedia)
Brightshare/Jackpot Factory
Red Flush Group
Wintingo
Wagershare/Palace group

Am I missing anyone? I am not privy to whatever is going on behind the scenes, but as far as I know it's the way they are choosing to consolidate.

I'm sure the casino groups will be managed and operated separately. At least I would expect them to be. I hope that they realize that they'll only be as strong as the weakest link in the chain. Those are my thoughts on this.

So besides Vegas Partner Lounge and 32 Red Group, Digimedia owns every other download MG on the accredited list? Lets hope they behave themselves.:D


EDIT: Since this is such a huge change in the gambling world (consolidation of many casinos) you would think that Digimedia would release a statement of some kind.
 
So besides Vegas Partner Lounge and 32 Red Group, Digimedia owns every other download MG on the accredited list? Lets hope they behave themselves.:D


EDIT: Since this is such a huge change in the gambling world (consolidation of many casinos) you would think that Digimedia would release a statement of some kind.

This is the main thing that makes this whole affair look shady. Do they have something to hide?

The other big consolidation has been under Casino Rewards, and they were pretty open about what was going on to players. It is obvious when logging on to one of the many casinos that it is now run by Casino Rewards.

As for Digimedia, there is not just silence, but even denial of the truth when people have asked.

They appear to be a strong group, but appearances can be deceptive, as some players have found out to their cost. The other concern is that despite what the LGA would have us believe, players' funds are NOT safe if something goes wrong.
 
This is the main thing that makes this whole affair look shady. Do they have something to hide?

The other big consolidation has been under Casino Rewards, and they were pretty open about what was going on to players. It is obvious when logging on to one of the many casinos that it is now run by Casino Rewards.

As for Digimedia, there is not just silence, but even denial of the truth when people have asked.

They appear to be a strong group, but appearances can be deceptive, as some players have found out to their cost. The other concern is that despite what the LGA would have us believe, players' funds are NOT safe if something goes wrong.

Also I have read a couple of complaints for non payment of winnings by Redflush/Casino La Vida on other sites due to irregular betting so they seem to be behaving like Fortune Lounge. So I do wonder if all these casinos are run independently under the banner of Digimedia or are they now being run by the same people? You have to wonder.
 
Also I have read a couple of complaints for non payment of winnings by Redflush/Casino La Vida on other sites due to irregular betting so they seem to be behaving like Fortune Lounge. So I do wonder if all these casinos are run independently under the banner of Digimedia or are they now being run by the same people? You have to wonder.

Pretty rare to see a company acquire another and not change things to fit their own business model.

Regardless of who is managing the casinos, they all now answer to Digimedia.
 
Digimedia is going to be the company that will running a good number of the South African/Israeli based/owned MGS casino groups. At the moment we have the following:

Referback (Digimedia - ex Bellerock)
Fortune Lounge (Digimedia)
Brightshare/Jackpot Factory
Red Flush Group
Wintingo
Wagershare/Palace group

Am I missing anyone?

Don't know how I missed this one :D

Seems about right, for now. Though, don't think this will be the last of it by a long shot.

Even though players etc etc have been led to believe all these casino groups are operated/owned by seperate entities/companies/shelf companies/subsidiaries/trust funds they've all been owned by the same owners from day one. Well before Digimedia teamed up with Carmen Media/Referback/ForwardSlash (ex Bellerock), FL/FA & Carmen Media/Bellerock (these supposedly seperate companies/owners) were sharing server space and who knows what else :confused:

Jackpot Factory/Brightshare/Spiral Solutions. That was kept well hidden. The problem is though, when people try to hide this much stuff and keep it dark, human error/mistakes always upset the apple-cart. As was the case with AllSlotsUSA, who initially claimed it was a seperate entity and not connected or associated to Spiral Solutions/Brightshare. That worked fine until a Brightshare Affiliate Manager forgot to engage the VPN (to spoof a different IP). They must have been busy that day cause they also used their Brightshare name instead of their ASUSA name.

WildJackCasino claimed it had been sold. It wasn't sold at all. Merely transfered to a subsiduary company owned by the identical owners of all these casinos et al.

These casino companies et al own multiple processing companies/subsiduaries. Not long ago, a dispute was raised with Brightshare by an affiliate, hit with chargeback fees. Normally a chargeback incures a $100 fee. Brightshare claims it gets hit with a $38 fee. Then there has been payments made by suposedly unconnected entities. Trying to manage so many IP blocks, DNS routing and domains for so many casinos, affiliate programs et al would be a major headache and why is likely not all loose ends have been tied up securely.

I should clear a misconception while I'm at it. EuroPalace Casino was a white label, set up by the founder (Laurent Malka) and ex CEO of EuroPartners. He was good buddy of Nitesh (ex upper management of Osiris Trading/FL et al). Nitesh was a part owner in Sunset Slots et al. I believe he's now left the industry.

EuroPalace had a supposed soft-opening in January 2010 but according to sources, didn't offically open till April 2010. The affiliate program attached to EPC, WinGate, used identical software to FA. While FA/FL always maintained support and processing were the only things they handled for EPC, it's my opinion, they also operated the affiliate program too. That's neither her nor there now because EPC is now under ownership of FL/FA/Digimedia et al and has been for some time.

What concerns me the most though in all of this, is the spam from these groups. The claims it's always a rogue affiliate. I'm not entirely sure is 100% true.

Getting back to AllSlotsUSA, when their goose was cooked, they did an under-the-table deal with Jackpot Capital, unbeknown to their ASUSA affiliates. These tagged players were sold to Jackpot Capital. ASUSA claimed they lost on the deal too and like their affiliates, were also shafted. Something else I find hard to believe. These owners are shrude operators with years of experience. So how could they be shafted so easily :rolleyes:

Its even been claimed, the Moshal family owns all the casinos above et al. Its been purported they own 35% of the online gaming industry. It's also claimed they founded Microgaming and to this day hold a controlling interest/shares in Micrograming. Given eCOGRA start-up-funds came from Microgaming and Virtual Holdings. If the Moshal family does in fact own these casinos and has a controlling intrerest in MGS etc etc, then up until eCOGRA was sold to the Directors EG - Beverage et al in 2011... How much influence did they hold over eCOGRA...

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Member Representative Directors
John Anderson, Virtual Holdings (aka 888.com).
Roger Raatgever, Microgaming.
Karl Magnusson, Vice President & CAO of OnGame.

Well that just opens another can of worms :D

Last but not least, Grand Prive Group springs to mind. Albeit this is speculation but... what if the Moshal's own/owed that too?

It seems odd both Microgaming and eCOGRA were clueless to the double databased being used. Especially since everything is tied back to MGS tracking players, deposits etc etc. And, it's not the first time an accusation of a double databases being used by an affiliate program. Lloyd Apter a well respected AM and the ex Brightshare program manager, came out at the GPWA and accused Brightshare of untagging players and using a double database.

Now Brightshare/Spiral/Jackpot Factory and WildJack Casino are connected to Digimedia...
 
What is a shame is that Chillbill is Aussiedave in disguise. I'll try to be as respectful as possible, but it's difficult to remain so when this guy has tried to damage the Casinomeister brand with slanderous nonsense elsewhere. Nonetheless, he's a serious nutjob who is no longer welcome here. Those of you who have been here for a decade or more know what I'm talking about. If you don't, you don't really need to know because I actually feel somewhat sorry for him. The following post is a case in point. He seems to know his stuff, but he makes factual errors that can be damaging and should be nipped in the bud before others treat is as gospel. I'll try to tackle the following:

Even though players etc etc have been led to believe all these casino groups are operated/owned by seperate entities/companies/shelf companies/subsidiaries/trust funds they've all been owned by the same owners from day one. Well before Digimedia teamed up with Carmen Media/Referback/ForwardSlash (ex Bellerock), FL/FA & Carmen Media/Bellerock (these supposedly seperate companies/owners) were sharing server space and who knows what else :confused:.
Not true. Carmen Media and Fortune Lounge had different distinct ownership. I've met both owners in the past - but albeit - it was a long time ago.

Jackpot Factory/Brightshare/Spiral Solutions. That was kept well hidden. The problem is though, when people try to hide this much stuff and keep it dark, human error/mistakes always upset the apple-cart. As was the case with AllSlotsUSA, who initially claimed it was a seperate entity and not connected or associated to Spiral Solutions/Brightshare. That worked fine until a Brightshare Affiliate Manager forgot to engage the VPN (to spoof a different IP). They must have been busy that day cause they also used their Brightshare name instead of their ASUSA name.
It has always been well known that Jackpot Factory is the casino group, Brightshare the affiliate program, Spiral Solutions was the media buying agency. There were no secrets about this and no need to be secretive either. If AussieDave had ever made it to any conference in his 13 years as an affiliate to actually meet these people, he'd know it.


WildJackCasino claimed it had been sold. It wasn't sold at all. Merely transfered to a subsiduary company owned by the identical owners of all these casinos et al.
I'm not sure about this. But Wildjack casino was dropped from the Accredited Casinos since they became unresponsive to a number of complaints. It was like pulling teeth - the Jackpot Factory rep said they were under different ownership - which seemed odd to me, but it was adios amigos on that one.

These casino companies et al own multiple processing companies/subsiduaries. Not long ago, a dispute was raised with Brightshare by an affiliate, hit with chargeback fees. Normally a chargeback incures a $100 fee. Brightshare claims it gets hit with a $38 fee. Then there has been payments made by suposedly unconnected entities. Trying to manage so many IP blocks, DNS routing and domains for so many casinos, affiliate programs et al would be a major headache and why is likely not all loose ends have been tied up securely.
I don't know where Dave is getting his information, but this is not true. It's different from processor to processor. Some processors are using a point system, whereby you amass a number of bad transactions and it escalates your processing fees (overall)...some get charged flat fees, but it's all different and certainly Dave/Joel would be no expert on this.

I should clear a misconception while I'm at it. EuroPalace Casino was a white label, set up by the founder (Laurent Malka) and ex CEO of EuroPartners. He was good buddy of Nitesh (ex upper management of Osiris Trading/FL et al). Nitesh was a part owner in Sunset Slots et al. I believe he's now left the industry.

They were friends, although I don't believe necessarily all that tight. As for Sunset Slots, it was never confirmed that Nitesh had anything other than shareholder status, based upon performance.

EuroPalace had a supposed soft-opening in January 2010 but according to sources, didn't offically open till April 2010. The affiliate program attached to EPC, WinGate, used identical software to FA. While FA/FL always maintained support and processing were the only things they handled for EPC, it's my opinion, they also operated the affiliate program too. That's neither her nor there now because EPC is now under ownership of FL/FA/Digimedia et al and has been for some time.

What concerns me the most though in all of this, is the spam from these groups. The claims it's always a rogue affiliate. I'm not entirely sure is 100% true.

He might be right here - but I don't know. What I do know is that there are some elements of Digimedia I'm still butting heads with. Lest we forget my recent experience trying to get these casino groups to enforce their anti-trademark infringement rules against their affiliates. I had to take things into my own hands.

Getting back to AllSlotsUSA, when their goose was cooked, they did an under-the-table deal with Jackpot Capital, unbeknown to their ASUSA affiliates. These tagged players were sold to Jackpot Capital. ASUSA claimed they lost on the deal too and like their affiliates, were also shafted. Something else I find hard to believe. These owners are shrude operators with years of experience. So how could they be shafted so easily :rolleyes:

Yes, this is true and were caught red-handed here, as well as the red Flushgroup who were redirecting any US traffic that clicked through their links to Jackpot Capital. When this was discovered they came to being booted from the site unless this was discontinued. Lucky for them Jackpot Capital was in the Accred section - but webmasters, as far as I know, were not compensated for this hijacked traffic, unless of course they had an agreement beforehand.

Its even been claimed, the Moshal family owns all the casinos above et al. Its been purported they own 35% of the online gaming industry. It's also claimed they founded Microgaming and to this day hold a controlling interest/shares in Micrograming. Given eCOGRA start-up-funds came from Microgaming and Virtual Holdings. If the Moshal family does in fact own these casinos and has a controlling intrerest in MGS etc etc, then up until eCOGRA was sold to the Directors EG - Beverage et al in 2011... How much influence did they hold over eCOGRA...

I don't know where Dave/Joel is getting this info, but it's incorrect. True the founders of Microgaming have had their hands in a lot of the South African based companies, but this is probably from the early days when they founded MGS. They have always been secretive - much like most provately help companies. They may or may not have influence over the online gaming industry, but you jsut don't know - and most people just don't care. What difference does it make?

Do you really care what the founders of Dell are up to? I don't - and I own a few Dell computers. :rolleyes:

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Member Representative Directors
John Anderson, Virtual Holdings (aka 888.com).
Roger Raatgever, Microgaming.
Karl Magnusson, Vice President & CAO of OnGame.

Well that just opens another can of worms :D
Yawn. Old ancient news. Yeah sure, the founders of these companies help start up eCOGRA. Yes, I was there too. It was controversial for the first year or two, but when eCOGRA grew their sea legs they were fine - and still are.

Last but not least, Grand Prive Group springs to mind. Albeit this is speculation but... what if the Moshal's own/owed that too?
Nonsense. It was an entirely different owner who is not on very good terms with MGS since his casinos' departure.

It seems odd both Microgaming and eCOGRA were clueless to the double databased being used. Especially since everything is tied back to MGS tracking players, deposits etc etc. And, it's not the first time an accusation of a double databases being used by an affiliate program. Lloyd Apter a well respected AM and the ex Brightshare program manager, came out at the GPWA and accused Brightshare of untagging players and using a double database.

Again -a lot of conjecture. You have to have hard facts to understand what is or has happened. I was involved with the Grand Prive investigation more or less by consulting - I was even in MGS's office at the IOM discussing this, so I feel I have a bit more info than a guy sitting at his computer that hasn't made a conference (except for one in Australia) in over a decade.

Now Brightshare/Spiral/Jackpot Factory and WildJack Casino are connected to Digimedia...
Instead of trying to stir up a bunch of tin-foil-hat-like threads, how about asking why there is a consolidation going on. Have you asked anyone who works at Digimedia? So far, the innocuous answer may surprise you. It's mainly so they can share resources like marketing and licensing. For most people that's snoresville, but for some it's a hobby to dig around the internet to try to prove how smart you are.
 
AussieDave-JoelM rides again under yet another alias....what a surprise!

Folks who have been in the industry for a while and know a few people will be very familiar with this notorious character and his often aggressive assertions, but the danger is that less experienced or informed forum visitors may be taken in by his allegations, and that could be damaging.

IMO Bryan is accurate in his assessment of this latest and largely speculative post.
 

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