USA Players Beware! Checks from Accredited casinos being denied after depositing

silcnlayc · Apr 25, 2014

I know there are other threads on checks and casinos, but I want to make players in the USA aware that the casinos are now implementing a little known clause in their T&C's that if a wire or withdrawal to card does not go through or fails, the casinos (accredited) are sending checks in place of the option chosen for withdrawal.

What is a USA player to do? I received a check from a well known casino (accredited) after asking for a wire transfer. I deposited it through the cashier (the drive thru would not take it) and 2 weeks later, the funds were removed frm my account (this morning) due to the account the check was drawn on was closed.

I mean REALLY??? Why are we forced to accept checks when we do not choose them. This is in its own way predatory and rogue actions when a casino sends funds in the way it was not chosen.

USA players are being forced to accept bad checks. Would a casino appreciate charge backs?? I think not...so why does a player have to accept checks knowing they are NO GOOD??

The casinos know they are NO GOOD but they still send them.

I am so tired of these shananigans casinos are playing that I hope, that many USA players stop playing at any casino that has a check option. YOU WILL BE BIT!! This is my 5th time and I am so tired of it......If I cannot withdraw to a card or wire.....I should be emailed and told this so I may have the choice to withdraw to a Western Union. But the casinos that serve USA don't want this...they want us to suffer (because this has been well known for a long time that checks are bouncing) and insist on sending bad checks out.

STOP with the CHECKS for goodness sake !!! If you cannot serve USA players in the right way...get out of USA!!! .

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Slotster! · Apr 25, 2014

Purely speculative, but I think that in most cases - they will be sent in good faith with circumstances then meaning they turn out to be bad.

They have to do all sorts of flip-flopping around accounts and processors etc etc to avoid the restrictive measures in place over there apparently.

You totally get why loads of decent online operations pulled out.

Ultimately, if I lived in the US, I literally would just avoid online gambling completely. It sounds like a complete nightmare.

Dinahnana · Apr 25, 2014

Checks being returned and not honoured seems to happening quite a bit lately judging by what I am reading on the forums. Its probably a case of processor going poof in the night. I don't understand why they can't give the player the option of WU or Moneygram if wire transfer or pay to card is not available for whatever reason. Anyway I used to live in the US so I know the hassles of getting paid so I feel your pain Sil

BMWSTACK · Apr 25, 2014

silcnlayc said:
I know there are other threads on checks and casinos, but I want to make players in the USA aware that the casinos are now implementing a little known clause in their T&C's that if a wire or withdrawal to card does not go through or fails, the casinos (accredited) are sending checks in place of the option chosen for withdrawal.

What is a USA player to do? I received a check from a well known casino (accredited) after asking for a wire transfer. I deposited it through the cashier (the drive thru would not take it) and 2 weeks later, the funds were removed frm my account (this morning) due to the account the check was drawn on was closed.
I am so tired of these shananigans casinos are playing that I hope, that many USA players stop playing at any casino that has a check option. YOU WILL BE BIT!! This is my 5th time and I am so

I mean REALLY??? Why are we forced to accept checks when we do not choose them. This is in its own way predatory and rogue actions when a casino sends funds in the way it was not chosen.

USA players are being forced to accept bad checks. Would a casino appreciate charge backs?? I think not...so why does a player have to accept checks knowing they are NO GOOD??

The casinos know they are NO GOOD but they still send them.
tired of it......If I cannot withdraw to a card or wire.....I should be emailed and told this so I may have the choice to withdraw to a Western Union. But the casinos that serve USA don't want this...they want us to suffer (because this has been well known for a long time that checks are bouncing) and insist on sending bad checks out.

STOP with the CHECKS for goodness sake !!! If you cannot serve USA players in the right way...get out of USA!!! .

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Well first off yes indeed bad checks happen all the time in the world. Yes indeed its worse with the casinos because it is normally Canadian check and it takes a long time to come back bad. Its obviously the processor that send the checks and I would assume that the reason the check comes back bad is because a)processor got caught and account was closed b) casino and processor ended relationship.

I am sure that their are people that get good checks from casino, so really a general warning to never accept checks and don't play casinos that pay in checks is really unnecessary. Actually if you are really trying to help you should name the casino rather than say "accredited casino". Naming the casino may actually help someone not go spend the funds in case it does go bad. A lot of time the bank will eventually give credit but the check can come back bad later.

Also is it the same casino that your getting bad checks from?

Googobucs · Apr 25, 2014

The number 1 thing I look at before I look at anything else is how am I going to be paid. If I don't have a couple of viable options that are not check, then I am not playing. I want Wire, Credit card and WU as options. If 2 of those 3 are not available I move on.

It's bad enough paying the fees and waiting a long time to get paid and then have a check show up and wondering " oh great, do I feel lucky today".

I don't play too much on line these days because I'm tired of the payment nonsense.

silcnlayc · Apr 25, 2014

I disagree with not warning others about the automatic check sending by casinos instead of asking for other options. As I said earlier, the casinos do not like charge backs do they? So why should we, the players, have to deal with their knowing misteps?

I hope you never receive a check, deposit it, and have it returned weeks later and the funds withdrawn from your account to cover it...It is a mess! These casinos know that this is a possibility and likely to happen more often than not, so why even have this option for USA players?

This is happening with DIFFERENT casinos...so it is not just one casino...If I name casinos then it would be even more a mess because I would be blasted by both the casinos and Max.....so I chose not to. I did not say for everyone to stop playing where checks are sent as payment, I said USA players BEWARE of playing where checks are drawn...

What I have issue with is that they KNOW and have been AWARE that checks are and have been an ongoing issue with returned checks and casinos refuse to offer other options when a player did not choose check.!

BMWSTACK said:
Well first off yes indeed bad checks happen all the time in the world. Yes indeed its worse with the casinos because it is normally Canadian check and it takes a long time to come back bad. Its obviously the processor that send the checks and I would assume that the reason the check comes back bad is because a)processor got caught and account was closed b) casino and processor ended relationship.

I am sure that their are people that get good checks from casino, so really a general warning to never accept checks and don't play casinos that pay in checks is really unnecessary. Actually if you are really trying to help you should name the casino rather than say "accredited casino". Naming the casino may actually help someone not go spend the funds in case it does go bad. A lot of time the bank will eventually give credit but the check can come back bad later.

Also is it the same casino that your getting bad checks from?

vinylweatherman · Apr 25, 2014

The problem may also be down to the long delay between the casino sending the payment out to the processor, and the check getting to the player. The longer this delay, the more there is a chance that by the time the player presents the check, it will have gone bad. Surely this can be sped up by using electronic transfers between the casino and processor, and when cut, sending the check without delay by overnight courier to the player, who should be urged to deposit it right away, but to NOT spend the funds until the check has properly cleared. Casinos and processors can help in this by cooperating and notifying the player when the money has been debited successfully from the processor's account, which could be some weeks after the player's bank has made the funds available. Until the money itself gets moved, there is a chance the check will turn bad.

The other problem is that the sheer volume of bad checks must surely have the banks investigating WTF is going on, with must in turn lead to more processors getting found out more quickly, which makes bad checks even more likely. It's this sheer volume of "bad Canadian checks" that might have lead to Canada becoming a "pariah state" in the US banking world, even where there is nothing to suggest that the transaction has anything to do with gambling. It seems that many banks won't even try to run a Canadian check through clearing, probably because they so often turn out to be dud.

BMWSTACK · Apr 25, 2014

silcnlayc said:
I disagree with not warning others about the automatic check sending by casinos instead of asking for other options. As I said earlier, the casinos do not like charge backs do they? So why should we, the players, have to deal with their knowing misteps?

I hope you never receive a check, deposit it, and have it returned weeks later and the funds withdrawn from your account to cover it...It is a mess! These casinos know that this is a possibility and likely to happen more often than not, so why even have this option for USA players?

This is happening with DIFFERENT casinos...so it is not just one casino...If I name casinos then it would be even more a mess because I would be blasted by both the casinos and Max.....so I chose not to. I did not say for everyone to stop playing where checks are sent as payment, I said USA players BEWARE of playing where checks are drawn...

What I have issue with is that they KNOW and have been AWARE that checks are and have been an ongoing issue with returned checks and casinos refuse to offer other options when a player did not choose check.!

Yes I agree its a mess, and FYI I wont play anywhere where they only have checks, I like the Pay my Card option.

I don't think a general warning about receiving bad checks from "XYZ casino processor" would deserve a blasting. It really is a fair warning so that someone doesn't withdraw funds, spend it, then have a big negative balance when the check comes back. Obviously the casino will take care of it but it could be a week or 2 for that to happen.

Dinahnana · Apr 25, 2014

Wouldn't it be cheaper for the casino to send the funds to WU for now? Right now some checks are being sent out and then get returned a while later which leads me to believe the processor has absconded with the funds. Then the casino has to cover the check and also pay the fees the player incurred from his or her bank. Not to mention the eyebrows raised at the bank when the player has had it happen a few times in the past.

Just a thought...

Jasminebed · Apr 25, 2014

I'll tell you something that frosts me... RTG casinos will send US players cheques from Canadian banks, but they won't send me one! My bank would release up to $1000 for me because of my own history, but normally 5 to ten days is common if a cheque is not from a government source or your employer.

They also do not pay back to credit cards. Pretty much haven't played RTG since Skrill left Canada.

I think for casinos to use WU, they need to keep volume pretty low, and use a number of parties to send them as not to be suspicious and fly under the radar. So it is likely to be reserved for VIPs or players who received a bad cheque.

rockycatt · Apr 25, 2014

AS I HAVE SAID MANY TIMES , send cash American dollars or Canadian dollars are available even in Pakistan so if you want to run a gambling house tolerate 1/2 % of risk if that even applies its the signature and delivery that's insured so casinos follow the lead of the leader casino's and measure up

silcnlayc · Apr 25, 2014

Truly hilarious update!

Well..my saga continues....I received another check from another casino (surprise! (non accredited this time) and my other funds are back into my casino account from the recent fiasco less processing fees...so I then I asked how to withdraw these funds and I get told, wait for it...this is no kidding...really...I am so astonished to get this reply........You can submit a Bank Wire request then have them change it to a Check by courier!

I almost fell over in my chair.....so...now...they are not there..everyone has gone home...all my emails were deleted without being read today (I got return receipts showing this) and my request to have someone call me today went totally ignored...everyone is off for the weekend and now I have to wait till Monday to see how to get these funds out.....Money is stuck in casino till Monday..........geezes!!!!!

Then I got to figure out how to address the next damn check I was sent and received today in lieu of a wire.....I mean...REALLY?????? It is not in US accounts format so I know this one is bad too....geezes...people (USA ones) please, please think twice before playing at ANY casino that offers checks to USA players..I think casinos are sending checks in lieu of the requested wire so they can hold on to the money a little longer......

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gwolfman1 · Sep 12, 2014

CHECKS FROM CANADA

Hello

I am waiting for a check from inetbet. Does anyone know if they send out Canadian or US checks?

If they use Canadian checks it will be a big problem for me.

MaryJean · Sep 13, 2014

gwolfman1 said:
Hello

I am waiting for a check from inetbet. Does anyone know if they send out Canadian or US checks?

If they use Canadian checks it will be a big problem for me.

At one time I told them that US checks were so much easier and since then I have been getting US checks.

I'm not sure if my suggestion was the trigger or not, but you might e-mail them and say that you prefer US checks. That way if they do either they can do yours as you wish.

MaryJean

gwolfman1 · Sep 13, 2014

MaryJean said:
At one time I told them that US checks were so much easier and since then I have been getting US checks.

I'm not sure if my suggestion was the trigger or not, but you might e-mail them and say that you prefer US checks. That way if they do either they can do yours as you wish.

MaryJean

Hi MaryJean

Thank you for the suggestion it sounds very promising. I will try that right away.

SlotsLover · Sep 13, 2014

not having much of a problem

I'm so sorry for all the problems others are having. I get numerous checks each month and I'd say the problem rate (of any sort, delay, bouncing, etc) is less than 5%.

shrty240 · Nov 29, 2014

Clubworld- a new processor

I received a withdrawl and since clubworld has a new processor the bank won't cash it. It is from Canada and in Canadian funds. I have heard so much on this site about returned funds that I requested they send the check back to me. Not sure what to do. I never had a problem with checks from them before. This is very disheartening. I spend a lot at the casino and hate to think I shouldn't bother anymore because I won't get paid if I actually happens to win.
Clubworld is a great group but I guess my online days are probably over.

gwolfman1 · Nov 29, 2014

Wow I hope your not reffering to the Club World Casino Group

I have been playing at the Club World Casino Group for over 4 years. I have never had a problem. I received two checks about a month ago and both checks were drawn on a US bank in Texas but I had no problem cashing them.

I don't know why casinos insist on using Canadian Checks. If the casinos are worried about not causing any suspicion for US players then Canadian checks are the worst for bringing suspicion for US players. :what:

rockycatt · Nov 29, 2014

IF YOUR IN THE USA you SHOULD only deposit Canadian checks they use a different process to bring the cash home to you its called sending it for collection and there is always a fee 5 to 15 is my experience also being a long time customer of the bank will help also the bank should be a bank not a thrift or smaller locale credit union

and were running out of options
good luck R C

shrty240 · Nov 30, 2014

It is a major bank I am depositing in. I have never had a problem before because all previous checks were in the US. This time it is drawn off a new processor.
It was deposited and returned.

john39 · Nov 30, 2014

shrty240 said:
I received a withdrawl and since clubworld has a new processor the bank won't cash it. It is from Canada and in Canadian funds. I have heard so much on this site about returned funds that I requested they send the check back to me. Not sure what to do. I never had a problem with checks from them before. This is very disheartening. I spend a lot at the casino and hate to think I shouldn't bother anymore because I won't get paid if I actually happens to win.
Clubworld is a great group but I guess my online days are probably over.

with club world I usually use pay my card and have no issues

rena35 · Nov 30, 2014

I have never had a cash out at Club World to be worried about checks from them. I do avoid using the check option especially after reading the posts here and else where about the problems that have been happening to other players using checks. There has to be a better way for USA player's to get paid IMO.

silcnlayc · Nov 30, 2014

There is another way...

rena35 said:
I have never had a cash out at Club World to be worried about checks from them. I do avoid using the check option especially after reading the posts here and else where about the problems that have been happening to other players using checks. There has to be a better way for USA player's to get paid IMO.

CASH!!Money orders!!!

rockycatt · Nov 30, 2014

silcnlayc said:
CASH!!Money orders!!!

others do it :thumbsup:

shrty240 · Dec 1, 2014

Clubworld has been in contact and asked me to attempt the check again. I spoke to someone at the bank and they advised that the routing number is not a U.S. number and therefore cannot deposit. I requested they cancel payment and paymycard. Hopefully it is resolved shortly. Thanks for all the information.

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