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UK William Hill £20 Free Spins In Shop Promotion ...

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catapultaudio

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Hi everyone,

Has anybody else received an e-mail from William Hill in the last 48 hours offering £20 of free spins on the FOBT machines in william hill shops?

The codes are only valid for 3 days, so I'm planning on going to use mine tomorrow, but I wondered if anybody has tried it yet and if so, is there a catch???
 
Hi NO CATCH :D I received £10 in email sunday. Went to local shop and was surprised to see after putting in code that it was CASH. I though they would be tied up in like £10 where you would have to make your spins and then anything after that would be cash.(like SkyVegas does when they give free bonus) But no nice cash straight away.
I walked away with £30 after a £21 bonus win. May i suggest stay off the England slot. And use them on other 2 slots. Good luck mate :thumbsup:
 
PaaskeDKnowUK said:
Hi NO CATCH :D I received £10 in email sunday. Went to local shop and was surprised to see after putting in code that it was CASH. I though they would be tied up in like £10 where you would have to make your spins and then anything after that would be cash.(like SkyVegas does when they give free bonus) But no nice cash straight away.
I walked away with £30 after a £21 bonus win. May i suggest stay off the England slot. And use them on other 2 slots. Good luck mate :thumbsup:
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What, no having to show your ID before leaving with the proceeds, nor having staff check that you have not already used the code in a sister shop elsewhere in town, or another town.

Will Hill must be crazy, as this is basically a free tenner, and with no other checks and balances, it will be down to the staff in individual shops to ensure no "advantage play" or "multi accounting" takes place.

Surely, if it's cash, you needn't play a single bet, just hit the "collect" button.


Either there IS a catch, or Will Hill will yank this promo pretty soon.
 
vinylweatherman said:
What, no having to show your ID before leaving with the proceeds, nor having staff check that you have not already used the code in a sister shop elsewhere in town, or another town.

Will Hill must be crazy, as this is basically a free tenner, and with no other checks and balances, it will be down to the staff in individual shops to ensure no "advantage play" or "multi accounting" takes place.

Surely, if it's cash, you needn't play a single bet, just hit the "collect" button.


Either there IS a catch, or Will Hill will yank this promo pretty soon.
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How would you be able to use it in a different shop LOL its a unique code like you would get from an online casino :what:

So once its used its used and cant be used again elsewhere..... Also why would they need to check my id from that?? Registered online and over 18 as they have all customers full info anyways :rolleyes:
 
PaaskeDKnowUK said:
How would you be able to use it in a different shop LOL its a unique code like you would get from an online casino :what:

So once its used its used and cant be used again elsewhere..... Also why would they need to check my id from that?? Registered online and over 18 as they have all customers full info anyways :rolleyes:
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That's the catch (and their safety net).

Most online casino codes can actually be used by anybody, which is why they are often shared on certain websites. The KYC check is what prevents abuse of such shared codes, as they then know who used it, and can check eligibility.

If you just walk into a shop, type a code (unique or not) into the nearest FOBT, they have no way of knowing whether you are eligible for the code, or whether you found it on a website. Making them unique limits their exposure, but does not stop the codes being passed on or even sold.

There is also a slim chance that some clever clogs has a "key generator" that can generate numerous offer codes in the same way that pirated software can come packaged with key generators that will create valid license codes that will unlock the installation.

There is nothing about this offer revealed in a Google search other than this thread. The 3 day validity of this promo may also be a safety system to give little time for any exploit to be developed and used.
 
xxshepxx said:
i keep getting these messages,

they have given me £50 so far

I've rinsed them of over £200 in the shop :)
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None for me:mad:

There's a William Hill in town. Would be worth the bother if I got several codes.

Sending multiple "spam" emails with a code rather defeats the object of having unique codes in order to control the uptake of the offer.

Looks like it might be worth having a look at the "moneysavingexpert" forum to see if this is being reported and discussed. There is a section dedicated to the online free chip and advantage play, and other careless offers (such as the supermarkets screwing up) are often exposed and exploited for a couple of days before the stores catch on.
 
Hi all,

The codes i received were 2x£10 "cashcode" numbers, you input these into the machine, no ID required, no checks for "multi-accounting" type abuse... they are single use but it is definitely possible they can be generated, although the limited time functionality could possibly prevent it from being abused I would imagine..

The funds go into the 'rewards' balance which has a 1x playthrough, so any winnings go straight to cash - I ended up with 3 sets of codes, so total £60, and walked away with £55 ... the money can be spent on any of 3 slot games, 3 Lions, Harry Trotter and.. Genie something... the genie one was by far the worst for me, I played minimum stake on all three and the genie one paid only £3 out of the £10 I used on it, compared with up to £13 on the football one.. not a single bonus round or big hit out of the whole £60 though!! .. Well biggest hit £5.80 which was about 28x bet.. suppose its not TERRIBLE ..

I'm not sure what the trigger is to receive these codes but I think I got 2 because I am a member of the in shop bonus club card scheme, and another 2 because I am a member of the online casino (NOT "casino club" which seems to be different...)

They also sent me a text saying I would get 500 points for using my bonus club card this week but for some reason I wasn't awarded them when I tried :( Anybody know if I can chase that up somehow?

Definitely can't complain though it really is very close to free money lol .. though if most people just hit the £2 spins I bet they mostly come away with nothing, those bookies slots can have terrible bouts of dead spins.. like waaaaay worse than online
 
catapultaudio said:
Hi all,

The codes i received were 2x£10 "cashcode" numbers, you input these into the machine, no ID required, no checks for "multi-accounting" type abuse... they are single use but it is definitely possible they can be generated, although the limited time functionality could possibly prevent it from being abused I would imagine..

The funds go into the 'rewards' balance which has a 1x playthrough, so any winnings go straight to cash - I ended up with 3 sets of codes, so total £60, and walked away with £55 ... the money can be spent on any of 3 slot games, 3 Lions, Harry Trotter and.. Genie something... the genie one was by far the worst for me, I played minimum stake on all three and the genie one paid only £3 out of the £10 I used on it, compared with up to £13 on the football one.. not a single bonus round or big hit out of the whole £60 though!! .. Well biggest hit £5.80 which was about 28x bet.. suppose its not TERRIBLE ..

I'm not sure what the trigger is to receive these codes but I think I got 2 because I am a member of the in shop bonus club card scheme, and another 2 because I am a member of the online casino (NOT "casino club" which seems to be different...)

They also sent me a text saying I would get 500 points for using my bonus club card this week but for some reason I wasn't awarded them when I tried :( Anybody know if I can chase that up somehow?

Definitely can't complain though it really is very close to free money lol .. though if most people just hit the £2 spins I bet they mostly come away with nothing, those bookies slots can have terrible bouts of dead spins.. like waaaaay worse than online
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They seem to have some control over distribution, but they are still giving some people several sets due to them having provided their details to different branches of William Hill. Still, if they want to give out £60 worth of free chips with 1x WR, no max cashout, and no ID checks, who are we to complain :)

Maybe I should sign up to as many William Hill newsletters as I can, and with as many different email addresses as my ISP will let me have (which may be the key to turning this into a major advantage play strategy).

Of course, one has to remember what the motive is, to get you into the shops and on the FOBTs, and to LIKE them.
 
Exactly. The FOBT's are called the 'crack cocaine' of gambling for a reason. Bookies have even attempted to get licences for premises that have no betting at all, just FOBTs due to the colossal profits they make. If you read the Gamcare forum, nearly 30% of posters have stated their debt and addiction has been to FOBTs. In the Republic of Ireland they are banned. Local councils have voiced concerns that these machines tend to be located in poor areas and have been attributed to sucking the money out of the local economy, a fact that is reflected in the large number of premises springing up in those locales. The FOBTs bring in more profit than any area of betting for the bookies, and they have since profits soar since their inception.

I say to you - good luck if you can go into the branch and walk out with 'free' cash. Just please ensure that it isn't the first sip from the poisoned chalice for you.
 
dunover said:
Exactly. The FOBT's are called the 'crack cocaine' of gambling for a reason. Bookies have even attempted to get licences for premises that have no betting at all, just FOBTs due to the colossal profits they make. If you read the Gamcare forum, nearly 30% of posters have stated their debt and addiction has been to FOBTs. In the Republic of Ireland they are banned. Local councils have voiced concerns that these machines tend to be located in poor areas and have been attributed to sucking the money out of the local economy, a fact that is reflected in the large number of premises springing up in those locales. The FOBTs bring in more profit than any area of betting for the bookies, and they have since profits soar since their inception.

I say to you - good luck if you can go into the branch and walk out with 'free' cash. Just please ensure that it isn't the first sip from the poisoned chalice for you.
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Go in with the codes, but leave your wallet at home;)

I expect staff will cotton on, and William Hill will supervise these promos better, but for those with the willpower, and who live in these "poor areas", a free £60 isn't too bad. The shops will only run these promos if they believe that overall, it drives up the profits from the FOBTs. As with the online free chip, there will eventually be enough smart players to make the whole thing unprofitable, as the online free chip is essentially the same play - get you to enter the casino, load up a game, play it, and like it enough to spend real money on it.
 
vinylweatherman said:
Go in with the codes, but leave your wallet at home;)

I expect staff will cotton on, and William Hill will supervise these promos better, but for those with the willpower, and who live in these "poor areas", a free £60 isn't too bad. The shops will only run these promos if they believe that overall, it drives up the profits from the FOBTs. As with the online free chip, there will eventually be enough smart players to make the whole thing unprofitable, as the online free chip is essentially the same play - get you to enter the casino, load up a game, play it, and like it enough to spend real money on it.
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It's hardly a loss leader. One new addict will pay for 100 free £20's in a matter of months. Jump in with the piranhas, expect to be bitten.
 
dunover said:
It's hardly a loss leader. One new addict will pay for 100 free £20's in a matter of months. Jump in with the piranhas, expect to be bitten.
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This is what the online casinos probably thought, but now they are finding that there are not enough "addicts" brought in to cover the costs of the savvy advantage player who has the discipline to take their free money, and not give a cent back. This has now lead to many free chip offers having such draconian restrictions that they have lost much of their lure.

So far, this William Hill offer has only one string attached, a 1x WR. There is nothing to stop the smartass from using as many code pairs as they can get their hands on. If anything, the advantage player can do society a great service by making sure this kind of promo doesn't pay, and so won't be tried for much longer. If the shops start asking for ID and other personal information before letting an "addict" type in their code, it might make them have second thoughts, and thus forego their first free "hit" of the "crack" of shop based gambling, and thus not get lured in by FOBT play. I thought the £2 and £500 JP video slots were bad enough, now I hear that you can bet up to £100 per go on the FOBTs, higher than the max bet at most online casinos for video slots. £100 bets belong in the casino, not on the high street.
 
I forgot to mention that I used these code in different stores,

You are supposed to only be allowed 2 codes (£20) so i didnt chance using more in the same shop.

Got another £10 today, not played it yet, they keep sending them to my mobile.
 
Not really looked into this but I would imagine the codes would be sent to members with registered rewards/loyalty cards, thus unique to that person.

I would imagine there would be a window to register a new card with someone else’s details, but a savvy company would have sent this email as a once only thing and no new cards would be eligible in the 3 day period, perhaps?
 
How many folk who got that free tenner and lost have stuck in another £20,£30,£50....wages!

Seen it happen all too, people going in for a modest bet on a horse and end up feeding £20 note after £20 note into these machine. There are 5 bookies within 100 yards of each other close to where I stay and these machines are keeping them in business and can offset any free money,free bets or money back offers.
 
dunover said:
It's hardly a loss leader. One new addict will pay for 100 free £20's in a matter of months. Jump in with the piranhas, expect to be bitten.
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FOBT’s are a hidden source of disgrace with gambling in the UK, unlike online you don’t have the options to set limits, you can gamble like an invisible person, there are little audit trials.

There is an easy option that can be employed with ease for people that want to stake at levels that would make even high stakes players online baulk.

They should have an option for stakes above a certain level that need a registered card to use a machine that is PIN protected coupled with photo I.D. before use, as a member stated here bets of £100 every 20 seconds are achievable, and this is plain wrong and irresponsible IMO
 
I actually really hate the whole 30 second delay, £100 a spin rule .. sure it protects a minority who seriously cannot be trusted to play these machines and should be staying well away but for the rest of us who are just playing a few hands of blackjack and have to keep waiting 15-20 seconds after every hand, or playing roulette and would rather have a "quick spin" like you can online rather than spending 55 seconds of each minute watching the god damn animation ... it's really frustrating for the disciplined, regular punter.
 
catapultaudio said:
I actually really hate the whole 30 second delay, £100 a spin rule .. sure it protects a minority who seriously cannot be trusted to play these machines and should be staying well away but for the rest of us who are just playing a few hands of blackjack and have to keep waiting 15-20 seconds after every hand, or playing roulette and would rather have a "quick spin" like you can online rather than spending 55 seconds of each minute watching the god damn animation ... it's really frustrating for the disciplined, regular punter.
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In all fairness the £100 spin was an extreme example but as you are eluding too the quick spin option on lower stakes being faster would not if not under control get you to the same place with lower stakes faster with your budget?

One could argue a quick punt of say a £10 in £2 divisions over 10 seconds was fast enough and then you leave, but this could translate to more play through if you felt lucky and maybe, just maybe chasing a loss?

When you say the minority that play at the levels that are insane I agree but I suspect that they never started that way, they gradually upped their stakes as the buzz level or loss increased.

You can't bet £100 online at a time mostly with a return that could be life changing but you can in the machines mentioned for a measly £500 (5 times stake).

Just my thoughts.
 
xxshepxx said:
I forgot to mention that I used these code in different stores,

You are supposed to only be allowed 2 codes (£20) so i didnt chance using more in the same shop.

Got another £10 today, not played it yet, they keep sending them to my mobile.
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Well, this is their own damn fault.

It does seem that they are intending to limit it to 2 codes per registered player, but even though it's the same mobile number, their database isn't picking up on whether codes have been sent before, and just keeps spitting them out. If used in different shops, it's up to automated systems to spot misuse, and surely by the time it does, it's too late as the punter has already put the £20 through x1 and walked with the cash.

Unless staff are watching VERY closely, how can they tell the difference between someone playing on a stack of codes, and someone just playing with one set followed by their own money (as intended), or their winnings (also intended).

Maybe in the end they will realise that more codes have ended up getting used than there were unique registered recipients, and find out that their systems were sending out duplicates.


Still, none for me in the end, so no chance to try it out:mad:
 
The threads a year old mate and the vouchers were only valid for a few days. DOH!!! You almost had me excited for a moment as well thinking there was a new offer about ;) I love these in shop offers but sadly not seen anything of the sort since Coral gave a bunch out at new year.
 

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