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    Cleo's VIP Room Casino?

    I did a search first, but couldn't find anything except "Cleo" kept bringing me to references about the slot game, not the casino I am trying to research.

    So for the best info (as usual) I turn to my much experienced group of friends here.

    Through FaceBook it game me $20 Freeplay. Software is unique........terms and conditions seem ok, other than if you want to be able to w/d you have to validate your identity etc...........BUT this site also requests a W9 Tax form which is a US Internal Revenue form for declaring miscellaneous income on your personal taxes each year.

    Their software as I wandered through it in play mode contains many games that are similar to land based casinos.

    I am always looking for new software and different games -- but careful to check out new sites (or new to me sites)

    So.......................what do you all know about this online casino?

    I didn't see it on any of the CM lists for Rogue, Accredited, etc.

    Thanks for any info..........

    Diane



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    Quote Originally Posted by Diane View Post
    I did a search first, but couldn't find anything except "Cleo" kept bringing me to references about the slot game, not the casino I am trying to research.

    So for the best info (as usual) I turn to my much experienced group of friends here.

    Through FaceBook it game me $20 Freeplay. Software is unique........terms and conditions seem ok, other than if you want to be able to w/d you have to validate your identity etc...........BUT this site also requests a W9 Tax form which is a US Internal Revenue form for declaring miscellaneous income on your personal taxes each year.

    Their software as I wandered through it in play mode contains many games that are similar to land based casinos.

    I am always looking for new software and different games -- but careful to check out new sites (or new to me sites)

    So.......................what do you all know about this online casino?

    I didn't see it on any of the CM lists for Rogue, Accredited, etc.

    Thanks for any info..........

    Diane
    This is essentially a casino in disguise, and if this really is legal under current US law, how come other casinos have not been able to make themselves legal by adopting a similar structure. It seems everything is pinned to the concept that there is no facility to withdraw your funds, they can only be exchanged for goods. However, you MUST place wagers in order to make your promotional points available to spend on goods.

    It is no different to a casino paying out in shopping vouchers instead of cash, and I would have thought this would have been done long ago if it really was legal.

    Since they say it is legal, they should have no problem with a US player asking the DoJ or local sherriffs office if they can see any issues with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vinylweatherman View Post
    This is essentially a casino in disguise, and if this really is legal under current US law, how come other casinos have not been able to make themselves legal by adopting a similar structure. It seems everything is pinned to the concept that there is no facility to withdraw your funds, they can only be exchanged for goods. However, you MUST place wagers in order to make your promotional points available to spend on goods.

    It is no different to a casino paying out in shopping vouchers instead of cash, and I would have thought this would have been done long ago if it really was legal.

    Since they say it is legal, they should have no problem with a US player asking the DoJ or local sherriffs office if they can see any issues with it.
    VWM -
    Thanks for the reply.

    From what I can see there are two different elements or ways to win. "Cash" can be won and is paid via check. Secondly instead of comp points like other casinos, you earn SPREE points that can be redeemed for prizes.

    I haven't deposited or tried to w/d --- but it does "appear" at first glance that there is a w/d method for cash winnings.

    But I am still trying to sort through it all so am looking for anyone here who has played and won to validate it all. 20x playthrough it what appears to be their wagering req.

    Others who have played/won/experienced it - I would appreciate hearing more.

    Thanks,
    Diane



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    Quote Originally Posted by Diane View Post
    VWM -
    Thanks for the reply.

    From what I can see there are two different elements or ways to win. "Cash" can be won and is paid via check. Secondly instead of comp points like other casinos, you earn SPREE points that can be redeemed for prizes.

    I haven't deposited or tried to w/d --- but it does "appear" at first glance that there is a w/d method for cash winnings.

    But I am still trying to sort through it all so am looking for anyone here who has played and won to validate it all. 20x playthrough it what appears to be their wagering req.

    Others who have played/won/experienced it - I would appreciate hearing more.

    Thanks,
    Diane
    There was another thread. A player had deposited and all of a sudden the software started to play up and wouldn't let them do anything. Support told them the software "only works in Windows 8", itself pretty silly given that Windows 8 is just out, and only a small minority of players will have just bought a new PC with Windows 8 on it. When CS was told this, they told the player they could simply download Windows 8 for free by "googling it". I can't see a 100% US legal company ever telling a customer that the only fix for their issue was to illegally download a pirate copy of the necesary software. This CS exchange is what makes me confident that the whole thing is some kind of scam from the outset, and is designed to get players to deposit and gamble, with this promotional aspect merely being a front to lend credibilty to the claim that this is 100% legal.

    Since players are asked to pay for promotional credits, and then have to wager them on games of chance before recieving a promotional shopping voucher redeemable for their resulting balance, there is no way this is going to be considered legal under US law. I suspect that they will operate for a while, and then vanish, possibly leaving players with worthless shopping vouchers or no access to the funds they have deposited.

    They are not actually based in the USA, the company behind this is registered in Cyprus, and thus out of reach of US laws should customers have cause to complain. They may have a call centre which is US based, but so do other casinos that target US players - it doesn't make them legal.
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    Diane......nice to see you

    Please don't deposit with these crooks.

    Integrity is the most important thing when it comes to online casinos, and these guys are misrepresenting themselves right off the bat.

    There is NO such animal as a LEGAL US based online casino. If you read the fine print (hope you did) you'll see some crap.about the funds to pay players being provided by "sponsors" and is limited to $10m in total......and given you are a high roller, what happens if you hit big and they've already reached their limit? You lose.

    The whole idea of being paid in prize credits could be another con. No doubt the prices are inflated, so you would be getting much less value for what is essentially your money.

    Add to that what could be dodgy software.

    Waaaaay too many red flags.

    I have to say that I'm surprised any CM member would even consider depositing here. A freebie? No harm there if they pay, but IMO it could also be a giant data/credit card harvesting exercise.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Nifty29 View Post
    Diane......nice to see you

    Please don't deposit with these crooks.

    Integrity is the most important thing when it comes to online casinos, and these guys are misrepresenting themselves right off the bat.

    There is NO such animal as a LEGAL US based online casino. If you read the fine print (hope you did) you'll see some crap.about the funds to pay players being provided by "sponsors" and is limited to $10m in total......and given you are a high roller, what happens if you hit big and they've already reached their limit? You lose.

    The whole idea of being paid in prize credits could be another con. No doubt the prices are inflated, so you would be getting much less value for what is essentially your money.

    Add to that what could be dodgy software.

    Waaaaay too many red flags.

    I have to say that I'm surprised any CM member would even consider depositing here. A freebie? No harm there if they pay, but IMO it could also be a giant data/credit card harvesting exercise.
    Thanks for the reply and advice. That's why I always START here before I deposit or do anything. It all seems funky to me as well. Will stay clear.

    Good to be back! Missed you all!

    Diane



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    Anyone playing here? Any updates? This is one of the most mysterious casinos so far. (wait not a casino a sweepstake). I have seen the problems people have had with the software, but beyond that all my searches really are not turning up complaints. Have not seen anyone complaining about not being paid. Most of my searches have turned up some positive feedback. Been monitoring them for a couple months now and not seeing much from the most informed group in this industry (here of course).



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    Really besides the software issues, horrible support, and the fact they made a few suggestions I wasn't comfortable with.
    I have seen a few people get lucky, win and get paid. I've been under the impression it takes about 3 weeks to get a check, but it is drawn on a US bank, and so far none of them have bounced.
    Plus the 30 times wagering requirements was kind of meh to me.



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    I'm not by any means suggesting anyone deposit or play here but I actually have won here and received my check within approx 5 days. I deposited here a couple of times and was doubled charged but it was refunded promptly . So play @ your own risk, but I have seen post where people have won a considerate amounts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buggars View Post
    I'm not by any means suggesting anyone deposit or play here but I actually have won here and received my check within approx 5 days. I deposited here a couple of times and was doubled charged but it was refunded promptly . So play @ your own risk, but I have seen post where people have won a considerate amounts.
    buggars
    how was the document process? any run arounds?



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