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Has anyone heard of Slots Alley Casino?

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They are being promoted by gamblersonnet.com. (anyone had experience with this site?).
They are offering 300% unlimited sign-up bonus, and it's not a sticky bonus. Wagering requirements: 20 times purchase and bonus. I did a search on this board and found nothing. That offer looks to me to be too good to be true, even though as a BJ player, BJ does not count towards the wagering requirements.
 
I've never heard of them, nor do I recognize their software. I did a few searches on Google for text and game names and came up with nothing. The whois information is very vague as if they are hiding something.

I'd say you're drifting into uncharted waters here. Good luck!
 
Questionable software run from Israel. Not only is the software a Microgaming rip-off - but I simply don't believe in their progressives. They have jackpots worth $1,5 mill and still they post like shills on Winneronline :yes: .

They hardly advertise anywhere and noone has anything good to say about them.

Check out the Progressive Aces and Faces. The jackpot starts on $25K ($ - NOT coins) - and you just have to hit a Royal. Currently it's almost $50K. What would the payout be on such a game if it wasn't rigged? Someone with a full version of Win poker could calculate it.
A Royal normally pays 4000 coins - $25K minimum payout with 50 cents coinsize means a Royal pays at least 50000 coins. Currently it's $54K or 108000 coins :eek:

Unless you're a slotlover I wouldn't touch any of their games.
 
I bet Gamblersonnet is their own "portal" used to spam their casino. They've been spamming with Slotsalley since July.

Slots Alley also have their own '3rd party auditing firm' - Fairgaminglabs.com

Don't know where Fairgaminglabs are supposed to be located - but the site is hosted in Israel - just like the casino.
 
I've been getting spammed by this outfit for a couple of months now. When I got the first spam I checked them out and did not get a warm fuzzy feeling from them. It all seemed way too good to be true. $25K for a plain old royal on A&F should be a huge red flag. I'd say either you'd never hit one or if you did, you'd never see the money. There would be some excuse or loophole used to void the win. I'd stay far away from this bunch.
 
A friend of mine did some calculations and verified that their software can't be for real.

As mentioned above the Aces and Faces progressive pays out waaaaaaay to much on the Jackpot to be random. A random game with such payout would kill the casino in no time.

They copied the software from Microgaming - Microgaming Aces and Faces pays 99,25% - which I believe is normal for the game.

Assuming this is a real VP game and not a slot - the progressive Aces and Faces on Slots Alley pays 129,99% when the Jackpot is reset to $25K (50000 coins).
Currently the Jackpot is 108800 coins ($54,4K) and the payout (if not a slot) is 174,22%!!!!!

Needless to say this IS NOT VIDEOPOKER - IT'S ANOTHER SLOT :sniper:
I wonder if all their games are like that? Probably.

Needless to say that Fairgaminglabs is a scam (well - we already guessed)

Check out this crap from their site:

News and Updates




Fair Gaming Labs is currently in the process of testing a new casino software scheduled to be released early next year.

As a service to the online gambling community we are currently compiling a "whistle blower" newsletter, in which we will list various casino software applications we have tested. This should be very enlightening reading material as the companies involved are those that so called "watch dog sites" NEVER speak out against.
 
I have played at SLOTS ALLEY CASINO. Tried several times with various amounts and came up empty. While playing the ACES & FACES multihand, I ended up with duplicate cards a few times (like 2 J of clubs!) One time, I even got a five of a kind! (Which should be impossible since it is not a bonus game. I sent my concerns, as well as a question about how they could offer such huge jackpots. The casino rep- Natalie Stone wrote back promptly and said there had been a glitch in their software, which sometimes showed the incorrect card. They had been guaranteed by their software provider that it had been straightened out & that a check of my play showed that I had achieved average or above (even though I had lost my stake & the bonuses!) One thing they do & it is not clear, is they ADD wagering requirements onto your intial 20X. So, for example, when they "give" you an added bonus of say 20% for using neteller, they will add an extra 5X wagering requirements. So your wagering requirements may add up to 25-30X or more!
In addition, they do use FAIR GAMING LABS as they "guarantee" that the games are fair. WHile most places use an accounting firm, they chose not to. Fair gaming labs uses a mathematical statistical analysis of what you should get paid, not an actual pay-out. When I questioned the bonus amounts, she said they add more per hand then most sites (obviously) and that they have fewer players, so the amounts tend to get higher. It just doesn't add up to me. While playing, the system just didn't feel right (besides the card errors!). A flush seemed extremely rare, though that can run in streaks. I wish it could be verified as being an honest, true site. At another casino rating site, when I asked about anyone winning, a person said she had won $1,000 and had to wait a few extra days for payment, but claimed she did get paid.
This may be one of those "too good to be true" sites? :rofl:
 
I've played alot of A&F and NEVER got 5 of a kind, and I've got at least one of every hand on the pay table! You must be an incredible player to have pulled that one off. :yes:

I'm curious, what did that hand pay as? 4ok or something else?

Obviously this software is NOT to be trusted one little bit.
 
I always dreamed of getting a five of a kind- you know- you're dealt a 4 of a kind and it seems such a waste that you can't improve your hand with the throw-away! So, imagine my surprise when it actually happened. All they paid was as if it was a 4 of a kind. When I wrote to them, I said I thought I should get an extra bonus for getting a 5 o.k., but I guess they didn't think so!
 
LMAO, I know, I hate getting dealt a hand like that, you just can't improve on it. WTG for getting that 5th card, I'm quite impressed! :notworthy:
 
You do realize that was totally tongue in cheek! Gotta love being dealt any winning hand in multiplay, but 4ok is way up amongst my favorites.
 
Casinomeister-
No, sorry. It was a couple of months ago & I didn't know how to do that. I also just checked my email and I no longer have a copy of the email on that- had to clean out becuase the list was getting too long. I will tell you that the casino promoter- Natalie Stone- personally replied to me & was very nice (& convincing). I think she would remember the correspondence, as she sent a quite lengthy reply saying that she was personally responding because she took my concerns very seriously. Wish I could help you more.
 
Well, I hope this all isn't going to prove them a fraud, I am an affiliate for Slots Alley and my brother-in-law has an account with them, he has won enough to cash out before but played it out instead. Maybe I am being blind but until they start really ripping people off, I will continue to back them and yes Natalie is a very nice person and always responds to all issues. Please let me know if anyone doesn't get paid etc., I personally have seen better hits at Slots Alley than at the microgaming casinos I have played at for over a year now, I will drop them like a hot potato if these issues continue or become worse.
Thanks!
Melinna
 
Melinna77:
- Their games are rigged and they're so amateurish they can't even see how obvious it is
- They created their own "independant third party" to verify software fairness and payouts
- They created their own portal for praising their casino.
- They have jackpots that in size match the Cryptologic, Playtech and Microgaming progressives? Progressives for millions built in one casino - a casino unknown to mankind until a few months ago?

How come the "independent third party" doesn't notice there's something fishy with the Aces and Faces progressives? Currently the A&F progressive is on $57000 - this means more than a million hands played since the last Royal (the Royal Flush cycle on this game with (random game, perfect play) is around 25000 hands).

Playtech has a progressive VP game called Megajacks. When the Jackpot is above $1200 or so the game has a positive return. It rarely goes above $2000 before it's hit. But at Slotsalley it's just climbing and climbing.....

(Message edited by jyde on October 30, 2003)
 
And don't forget the guy who got 5 of a kind on Aces & Faces. If that doesn't show you there's something VERY wrong with the software then you must be blind.
 
Heh - I did forget :yes:

I'd say the software belongs in Casinomeisters rogue software department and Fairgaminglabs among the fake watchdogs.

Btw. lookout for Casinoonliner.com - same software soon to be launched.

Registrant:
FBA Partners
Main Street
Gibraltar
GIBRALTAR

Domain Name: casinoonliner.com

Record last updated on 21-Aug-2003.
Record expires on 26-May-2006.
Record created on 26-May-2003.

Domain servers in listed order:


NS1.SLOTSALLEY.COM

NS2.SLOTSALLEY.COM
 
When checking the News I noticed this one:
https://www.casinomeister.com/static/news/oct2003.html
About the record Keno win at Intercasino: "...[color=0000ff]Our researchers tell us that nomokes' jackpot is an online Keno record. Personally, I don't know of any online casino that has paid out anything close to $206,548.61 in a single keno jackpot..."[/color]
I guess the researchers should keep an eye on Slotsalley.com then - since their Keno progressive is currently on $315,557!!!! Amazing jackpot - especially since they've only been online a few months :lolup: They must have thousands and thousands of player to build these large progressives currently worth a total of $1,200,000 - Microgaming and Playtech progressives are both totalling less than $800,000 today.
 
They are spammers and the software must be
rigged. Otherwise they could not offer an *unlimited* 300% bonus. Even with 20(d+b) WR they would lose massively if I could deposit $1 million and play a fair game of JOB VP.
 
Just a heads up: I've been trying over the past several days to get a response out of Fair Gaming Labs. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that they "may" be okay.

But I don't think so...

Nathalie may be a sweetheart, but if she knows that FGL is merely a bogus front/stamp of approval, then how sweet is she?
 
Well, I am 6 months new into affiliate work and it is hard to deal with the fact that my most successful program so far may be a cheat. Thank you for trying Bryan and please let us know if you find out anything.
Melinna
 
"May be a cheat"????
- Do you believe in their progressives?
- Do you believe ANYONE would offer a game with a 130% AS A MINIMUM payout?
- Do you believe a real testing lab would let this pass?
- How come they haven't posted any reports from Fakegaminglabs since July 1
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Ever wondered why they do so well? Perhaps because they offer HUGE bonuses AND rig the games....

(Message edited by jyde on November 03, 2003)
 
I've been in contact with Natalie, and most of the questions that have been posed here will be answered shortly. I should have something by Monday. So far what I've seen most everything is explained.
 
Haha - can't wait either. Let me see....

- Microgaming rip-off
- Huge bonuses on all deposits
- Progressives (1,4 mill.) from one newbie casino worth the sum of progressives from , Playtech (852K) and Microgaming (527K) build by hundreds of thousands of players
- Progressive ticking as a bunch of watches with same speed/increments 24/7
- Progressive Aces and Faces with a 130% minimum payout. Currently it's 182%
- If one hand of Aces and Faces adds 3 cents to the progressive jackpot - it's been almost 1,2 million hands since the last Royal. Statistically (assuming perfect play) we should have have seen 46 Royals.
- They (most likely) have their own portal gamblersonnet.com praising Slots Alley and listing it along with "other" Microgaming casinos
- The software is buggy (5 OAKS etc.)
- FGL (most likely) their own independent third party) tested and approved the buggy and rigged software.
- Domain registrations point to Gibraltar which is good - but everything is in Israel (is that legal??). Support, gameservers, website of Slots Alley, FGL and Gamblersonnet are all in Israel.

I imagine Natalie will be working late ;)
 
Jeeze Jyde! Where's the blonde???

Anyway, here is Natalie's answer:

1. How are the progressives tallied via your casino? How do players know these are
real?

The software owner is dead against making public the way the progressive network is
constructed. As I have explained they have some legal problems operating the clubs
and fear complications. We don't want to lie or put a spin on the answer. Will it be
enough to explain that the casino was launched with the intention of adding more
casinos later to participate in the network. (others will be launched very soon).

2. How are you able to offer a 300% bonus without jeopardizing your casino or player
funds?

We are WELL aware of the risk in running the 300% bonus. We came with a specific
marketing approach of providing relatively large bonuses, but significantly restrict
cash-out terms the minimum wager requierment is very high and every bonus carries
such restrictions as stated on our site. We do not admit "evil players" using
various blacklists.

Players may rest assured that the casino can afford and will always honor any and
all cash-out requests. We do not go over board.
Our casino shares the profits with players - we are willing to make less profit per
player then other casinos. But today we are far from unique, there are pleanty of
other casinos, that offer even higher bonuses from various vendors.

3. What is your position on FLG?

FGL is a group of professional mathmaticians and programers, they don't compromise
and they really made an impression on us. It's a part of a software company that
decided to start this business but we were not aware that we would be their only
client. We actually predicted that they will become significant players in the field
of payout auditing and random checks (they are much more accomplished than any
accountant). They led us to believe that they have new customers signing up within a
very short period of time. But they failed and we are now in a very delicate
position of being the only client. We have informed FGL that if they won't expand
their business we are not going to extend our cooperation with them.


4. What have you done about reported glitches in the software?

Yes there were several glitches in our software and some players were affected.
Everyone of them was compensated to his satisfaction. Yes we had 3 players that
showed a balance much higher than what was recorded on our servers it was corrected
and they were compensated and all issues were resolved immediately! There were other
incidents where the software made a mistake in calculating the payout. We immediatly
corrected the mistake and as to the players affect, two of which didn't even notice.
We made them aware, apologized and compensated them.

I am happy to say that today I cannot recall the last time something like this
happened.

We treat our players with great respect and care, our cash-out's are prompt and we
pay a lot of attention to customer service, I answer and interact with players
myself pulling problems from support people much more than the average manager. We
don't use templates, form letters or auto replies every claim and complaint is
seriously handled.
 
Jeeze Jyde! Where's the blonde???

That's her. After her boyfriend found out she'd been chasing the Slots Alley the progressives with his creditcard.

As for Natalies answers - I must laugh!

What is this with clubs? She claim progressives are build from "secret gambling clubs"??

Even if it was true it doesn't explain the A&F progressive with the 180% payout.

As for FGL :lolup: If they're such wizards - how come they didn't notice the unreal A&F progressive and the millions of hands played without Royals.

(Message edited by jyde on November 12, 2003)
 
Based on all the information I've read, they DO NOT offer a fair game. That's why they can offer 350% bonus. You won't win anything at all with such a slow pay out.
Even if you do win, they DO NOT pay. Enough said.
 
They wanted us to do a post-pay CPA deal for them, and we said no because they had no references. It's my perspective that a company willing to scam their players isn't that far behind scamming their marketers - and their affiliates. I'm glad, in retrospect, that we didn't.

Jillian Tate
Online Media Manager
Spotted Dog Media
 
Interestingly enough, they supposedly had someone win their giant ACES & FACES progressive jackpot
(It was in an email that I didn't keep) I believe it was up to $40,000+ . It is now back down to a mere $9,000+. It would be great to have them publish the full name of this lucky winner and find out how quickly he was paid. But, alas, they only publish the players first names. It must be difficult to come up with all those first names.
 
:lolup: Told you this was a scam.

Last time I checked the Jackpot on Aces & Faces was around $60,000 - a payback of 182%. It would reset to $25,000 which would pay a 130%.

After getting some publicity they "let the jackpot go" and reset to less than $10,000. Just as crazy - but what would you expect from a scam operation like this? Stupid AND crooks.

I haven't had a chance to listen to the radioshow - and I just can't wait.
 
LOOK!!! The idiots created a website for the softwareprovider.
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Casinova Software has been widely praised in the marketplace for the kind of innovative design that commands attention.
Click to expand...
Haha - they've been laughed at and ridiculed.

Our stunning graphics and user friendly virtual casino package, translate into big earnings for operators
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Well - the design was copied from Microgaming. Big earnings? Doubt it :lolup:

So - now this guy Nati (or Natalie. Probably a cross-dresser) has:

- 3 rigged casinos
- 1 fake watchdog site certifying payouts
- at least 2 fake spamming portals with fake reviews promoting the casinos (gamblersonnet.com and goodgamblers.com)
- 1 software company

Meister - looks like you have a new member for the rogue-software section :cool:
 
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