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Old 6th April 2009, 12:04 AM
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Club Player? Why in the world are you playing at a Virtual casino? Good thing you didn't win anything substantial.
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I guess I can relate some to many asking about undesirable casinos because what is the difference from being screwed by a reputable one vs a rogue one? Really, when you continue to lose deposit after deposit ( I am up to 35+ losing deposits at just one casino without any kind of return for a withdrawal and it is on the accredited list, what good does that do?) it makes one want to leave these money suckers and try someting different.

It is becoming a no win situation for many of us anymore and many are looking for other places to try regardless becasue the accredited list is suckin big time whereas it seems even the rogue casinos are giving it up better (more play time) with their bonus offers.

At least many are getting some gas out of their money for extended amounts of play. Just my opinion...I haven't strayed yet but the feeling of being screwed by many GOOD casino is HUGE at this time. And I feel they know this cause they know they can especially since they are on the meisters list ( I feel) and many of us won't stray so they continue to pummel us until we feel there is no other way to win or stretch our playing dollar except to test out other non desirable casinos.

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Club Player? Why in the world are you playing at a Virtual casino? Good thing you didn't win anything substantial.
I went back and checked the rogued pit and read the member's problems..oh my I don't see how that casino escaped me...thanks for pointing it out. I might have gotten it mixed up with club world..

I don't understand why anyone would assume I intentionally played at a rogue casino without giving me a chance to respond to Pinababy...
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what is the difference from being screwed by a reputable one vs a rogue one?


silcnlayc, if you could move that post somewhere else, i'd nominate it.
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I guess I can relate some to many asking about undesirable casinos because what is the difference from being screwed by a reputable one vs a rogue one? Really, when you continue to lose deposit after deposit ( I am up to 35+ losing deposits at just one casino without any kind of return for a withdrawal and it is on the accredited list, what good does that do?) it makes one want to leave these money suckers and try someting different.

It is becoming a no win situation for many of us anymore and many are looking for other places to try regardless becasue the accredited list is suckin big time whereas it seems even the rogue casinos are giving it up better (more play time) with their bonus offers.

At least many are getting some gas out of their money for extended amounts of play. Just my opinion...I haven't strayed yet but the feeling of being screwed by many GOOD casino is HUGE at this time. And I feel they know this cause they know they can especially since they are on the meisters list ( I feel) and many of us won't stray so they continue to pummel us until we feel there is no other way to win or stretch our playing dollar except to test out other non desirable casinos.
Honestly Silc, if I felt that way....that I was being ripped off, and that I wasn't getting a fair game, I would just stop playing. Especially if the alternative was to give my business to Virtual, or one like it. That's not just directed at you, but to anyone who is convinced the software is rigged....why are you still playing? I don't feel my play has changed in years, at either RTG or MG. I do find RTG slots tighter overall, but I've always found that.

And aren't the tons of screenshots being posted here proof that people are winning? So do some think it's just rigged against them in particular? I just really don't get it.

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I went back and checked the rogued pit and read the member's problems..oh my I don't see how that casino escaped me...thanks for pointing it out. I might have gotten it mixed up with club world..
I don't think you're the only one who has made that mistake Gloria. Glad I pointed it out as well...if it stops you from playing there.
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So do some think it's just rigged against them in particular?
Why not?? Technically it can programmed in and everything is possible. I am not saying that's how it it done but it is doable if you ask me.

How many times we've seen a new player hits a jackpot just after playing for an hour or two?
My playtime is usually much more enjoyably on my first deposit especially with one particular software i don't want to name here. And later on deposit after deposit is gone without any payback.

Coincidence
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Nice cashout on a 20.00 comp at Club World

My last screen shot for awhile, @ Gloria460, pina gave good advice and im glad you found out in time, this money will be in my Q.T account in the morning, where as with the Virtual group, you may or may not get paid, its just better to play where they pay with no hassles and you know your dealing with honest folks imo......................laurie
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I'm done for the next two weeks..slots were very tight this weekend...I installed clubworld and 3dice so will give them a good look in a few weeks and thanks guys for the heads up!
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Why not?? Technically it can programmed in and everything is possible. I am not saying that's how it it done but it is doable if you ask me.

How many times we've seen a new player hits a jackpot just after playing for an hour or two?
My playtime is usually much more enjoyably on my first deposit especially with one particular software i don't want to name here. And later on deposit after deposit is gone without any payback.

Coincidence
I have been playing slots online over the past year more than at any other time during my life. Here are my comments if they amount to anything:

We are basically talking of 2 things, the fairness of the software and the accreditation here. On the latter, given that you win your money is normally safe and sound. As for the software (slots normally) while I am sometimes frustrated at the tightness of the games, I do find the wins/losses to be cyclical save for the extremely high variance slots (the Scary Rich games at Rival in particular though they are addictive). Most of the slots at MG, RTG or Rival tend to give you big wins that cover most of your previous losses at the same slot. However, I must say that even with the older slots I feel that they have been adjusted to higher variance than before. In the past, most games give you small wins within a cycle of 100-150 spins but it is normal for you not to get anything worthwhile and even a load of dead spins within a range of 300-500 spins. Just yesterday, playing Caesar's Empire at Rushmore, I encountered a streak of no features in nearly 1000 spins at $0.2 per spin and my balance dwindled from $120 to less than $50. That followed a puny feature after 300+ spins that landed me almost nothing from $150 down to $120. Now suddenly my balance jacked up with a string of features and I ended that slot session with $147, hardly a loss. The same thing happened at Opera where I got down from $130 to $40 and then everything went straight up and the session ended with $145.

There are numerous occasions that I see this happen. If you are on the same slot, eventually the variance kicks in and your losses, if any, are limited. What I dont like is that very rarely does the good part of the variance occur in the first 100 spins making it necessary that you need to chase after losses though not with a fresh bankroll. Probably the trick is for players not to switch slots after a barren run so quickly and allow for the variance to kick in. I dont know but in recent times, it could be necessary for you to do 2K to 3K for variance of any sort to kick in.
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