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I guess yes, betsize increase with VIP levels. This setup was of course defined to prevent the all-In first bet of bonus lovers
Also minusule is a question of definition in our case almost no players play on the max limit per game i.e 250 per spin or 25 per
BJ hands, exept of course the bonus lovers.
You should be glad you are not near the top of the "best bonuses" list. The list is meant for bonuses that can be had by advantage players, and does not represent the true value for a "normal" player who would use lower bets and more hands or spins.
To value a bonus for "recreational" play, one should look at the WR, and see how much bankroll would be lost to the HE of applicable games. If this comes to less than the value of a cashable bonus, then such bonus is vulnerable to the "grinder". The best bonuses would be large enough to extend play, but with WR to ensure a broadly neutral outcome based on the "grinder". This would ensure that only a lucky streak would allow a player to withdraw a profit, and low bet sizes will ensure any advantage player would still need several wins at a game of Blackjack to get enough of a boost before making WR, rather than a huge boost from one 50/50 outcome.
AKA23 is only one site, shutting his links will achieve nothing, he can still discuss the bonus, how to play it, and players can link through from other sites, or even just Google for the site.
The wizard of odds website discusses the mathematics behind most casino games, and variations with different softwares. He only promotes BoDog, but has bonus beating strategies comlete with degree level algebra.
Paying affiliates for players based on CPA rather than revenue share gives a huge incentive to run an advantage play site. The site gets traffic because of the quality of information, and even though players win, the site still makes money.
Even if all casinos banned CPA, advantage sites could run on a subscription model, with players paying to get hold of information on advantage play. There are a small number of fruit machine sites here in the UK based on this model, and although some are just scams, others contain useful information about fruitie exploits that most people never hear about till it is too late.
The only real way out is for casinos to think up of a way to attract players without making their SUB a steal for the clever mathematicians among us.
While Josh is drawing criticism for starting this thread, he is the first casino operator to publically say what I bet they are all thinking behind the boadroom doors. He has confirmed what most players have suspected, that much of this talk of "groups of fraudsters" is nothing more than traffic generated from these kinds of affiliate or advantage play site, hence we have unbelievable tales of groups of conspiritors collaborating over whole continents presented as though they actually met up together and planned the whole operation, rather than just seeing it discussed on some website, and simply joining the party.
In the case of Prime, its the £100 SUB and then nothing, where is the player retention? It is no surprise that most traffic is from bonus seekers and advantage players, who take the SUB and never look in again. Most other casinos run various promotions to entice players to come back and play again, and the best ensure the promotions are varied, so no advantage player can work them by rote for too long without having to do the maths all over again.
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