Deposit Options disabled at Big Casino

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Is there a problem with Big Casino? The deposit option in the Cashier has been disabled now for over 12 hours although the withdrawal option is working.

When I spoke to support last night, they said it was a technical issue they were trying to correct. However it is still disabled this morning.
 
You could always PM the Rep- I'm sure he'd be happy to help you out some! He's quite active in the forum:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/members/

Tech problems happen! Since its Saturday, it might take a little longer to fix than it would normally- just the nature of getting things done on the weekend. I'm sure, however, that they're working at it hard and as quick as they can!

Hopefully its fixed for you soon, so you can enjoy your weekend's play!
 
You could always PM the Rep- I'm sure he'd be happy to help you out some! He's quite active in the forum:


Tech problems happen! Since its Saturday, it might take a little longer to fix than it would normally- just the nature of getting things done on the weekend. I'm sure, however, that they're working at it hard and as quick as they can!

Hopefully its fixed for you soon, so you can enjoy your weekend's play!


Eighteen hours (at least) and counting....:eek2:

I did think about contacting the rep, but decided against it as I believe this issue should have a wider audience than just a PM between him and myself.

To be honest, I am a little uneasy here at the implications of ALL deposit options being 'temporary unavailable' (from the Website). For a casino to be in this situation would surely transcend the usual 'just the nature of getting things done on the weekend' as this is a major issue.
 
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Thank you for heads up. I'm currently in Moscow, Russia, for a short vacation (since last Thursday). I will let you know as soon as I have any news.
 
You could always PM the Rep- I'm sure he'd be happy to help you out some! He's quite active in the forum:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/members/

Tech problems happen! Since its Saturday, it might take a little longer to fix than it would normally- just the nature of getting things done on the weekend. I'm sure, however, that they're working at it hard and as quick as they can!

Hopefully its fixed for you soon, so you can enjoy your weekend's play!

Are weekends the busiest times for online casinos? They are for land casinos.
 
Are weekends the busiest times for online casinos? They are for land casinos.

I'm not sure!

I imagine they are, but that is just an educated guess. As is the rest of this post :p

If they can't take deposits though- it has to do with a processor, I'd imagine. If that's the case- its out of the casino's hands.

And those guys- the people who'd approve a new processor (I imagine its a bank/Credit Card thing.) might not work the weekends.
 
I would like to apologize for the delay in response.

I still have no news, but hope to get back to you tomorrow. All I can tell now is that there are going to be some major changes in the company: structure, ownership, etc. which caused BigCasino operation suspension.

I will keep you updated.

Thank you!
Viktar.
 
I would like to apologize for the delay in response.

I still have no news, but hope to get back to you tomorrow. All I can tell now is that there are going to be some major changes in the company: structure, ownership, etc. which caused BigCasino operation suspension.
I will keep you updated.

Thank you!
Viktar.


This is a TERRIBLE way to have handled this.

This kind of thing is what scares players the most, because it makes them worry about the safety of their money.

This kind of thing has to be handled VERY carefully right from the outset, and an announcement to players should have been made BEFORE this suspension of operations.

Enacting the suspension at the start of a weekend has only made things worse, because for 3 days there have been reassuring noises from CS that this is nothing more than a minor technical problem that will be sorted out quickly as a matter of priority.

Now, the owners have a damage limitation exercise on their hands, and their first duty will be to make absolutely sure that players who have made, but are yet to receive, their withdrawals are paid as per normal during the first part of this week, regardless of what is happening in the boardroom.

The truth was known at the end of last week, but was kept secret up until now from those with most to lose, the players with money in their accounts, or in transit.

Too many online casinos have suddenly lost deposit options, or had "technical issues" with withdrawals, and having played down the issue initially, have eventually been found to have gone bust, or had their license pulled by either the regulator or software vendor.

This could be a major setback for the restructured Big Casino when it comes back online, as the bond of trust has been broken because the casino was not honest with players about what was really going on.

This may also cause problems with the license should the UK Gambling Commission be unhappy about how this unfolded, or has to deal with complaints from players who believed that Big Casino, with it's focus solely on the UK market, was the safest place of all for UK online players.

More detail is needed sooner rather than later.
 
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I agree with what you are saying, WVM.

Unfortunately, I'm not in the list of senior managers or company owners, so I have to deal with the consequences of decisions were made.

I'd like to assure all players, that their money are in safe. As you can see, "Withdrawal" option is still available, and they can withdraw their money at any time.

Maybe I used incorrect term "suspension", because existing players are STILL able to play (and win) if they have money on their accounts and then withdraw their winnings. The only limitation was made - deposits options were switched off.

Just to clarify:

1) The most important decisions HAVEN'T BEEN MADE yet.
2) BigCasino won't be restructured. All changes will affect only Viaden.
3) We process payouts in normal mode.
4) Players money are in safe.
 
I agree with what you are saying, WVM.

Unfortunately, I'm not in the list of senior managers or company owners, so I have to deal with the consequences of decisions were made.

I'd like to assure all players, that their money are in safe. As you can see, "Withdrawal" option is still available, and they can withdraw their money at any time.

Maybe I used incorrect term "suspension", because existing players are STILL able to play (and win) if they have money on their accounts and then withdraw their winnings. The only limitation was made - deposits options were switched off.

Just to clarify:

1) The most important decisions HAVEN'T BEEN MADE yet.
2) BigCasino won't be restructured. All changes will affect only Viaden.
3) We process payouts in normal mode.
4) Players money are in safe.

This only raises further questions. Why disrupt Big Casino at all if it is only the software company undergoing the changes.


When players first contacted CS, they were being told:-

When I spoke to support last night, they said it was a technical issue they were trying to correct. However it is still disabled this morning.

This is a clear case of misleading players. There were NO efforts being made to correct this, as it was not a technical issue at all, but a management decision. Unless the owners and managers were incredibly stupid, they would have known that players would notice this straight away, and would be contacting CS. They failed in the simplest task of all, ensuring that CS were properly equipped to deal with an issue that was about to occur by design.

Either CS didn't know a thing, or they had been ordered to tell this lie about "technical issues" to players.

Apart from this thread, have players yet been informed of the true reason for the loss of deposit options.

If this goes on too long, there will be no business left to restructure. Players will play out their balances, or withdraw. NO fresh money is coming in to the casino, but they have employees to pay, premises to pay rent on, and servers to pay running costs and licensing fees on.

They may find that players take exception to the fact that they were allowed to play off their balances, which they may well have withdrawn instead had they known that there had been a suspension, however temporary, of operations.

Until all outstanding withdrawals have been received by players, there is still scope for worries to emerge, and even the slightest delay is going to look like the money is never going to arrive.

When all is over, and things are back to normal, they STILL have players left with a negative impression of how this was handled, and this will be used in forming a judgement on the competence of the management team and company behind the casino.

Bryan was also left in the dark, and he had Big Casino listed as accredited, which is a reflection of his own judgement in granting such a status.

If the changes were sufficiently disruptive so as to cause the casino to cease operations for a time, then surely they will need to be re-evaluated for accreditation once the new structures are in place, as the status was granted after evaluating the old structures of ownership, and the people involved.

We are still waiting for something official from the company, and I don't know whether Bryan has heard back from the CEO.
 
It seems to me that either the right hand does not know what the left hand is doing at Viaden, or there is a deliberate attempt at deception going on here. I really hope it is not the latter.

Clearly the initial excuse of a technical glitch was - as is all too often the case in online gambling - economical with the truth or at best inaccurate. This leaves the most important element in all of this - the player - in the dark and unsettled whilst the company management appear to continue dithering over what to do next.

It's a helluva way to run a company imo, and the longer management takes in sorting itself out, the less confidence there will be in the casino.

After three days or more there should by now be a sense of urgency in getting an official and truthful statement out to the players.

This outfit is regulated by both the Isle of Man and the UK Gambling Commission...you have to wonder what they make of this sort of management behaviour.
 
I believe it's a situation of the right hand not speaking to the left hand combined with business decisions that have not been publicly announced. I've been in touch with both hands and have decided to remove the casino from the Accredited list until they are fully operational again.

Players are still free to withdraw their funds, or play them out. It's up to them.
 
I agree with what you are saying, WVM.

Unfortunately, I'm not in the list of senior managers or company owners, so I have to deal with the consequences of decisions were made.

I'd like to assure all players, that their money are in safe. As you can see, "Withdrawal" option is still available, and they can withdraw their money at any time.

Maybe I used incorrect term "suspension", because existing players are STILL able to play (and win) if they have money on their accounts and then withdraw their winnings. The only limitation was made - deposits options were switched off.

Just to clarify:

1) The most important decisions HAVEN'T BEEN MADE yet.
2) BigCasino won't be restructured. All changes will affect only Viaden.
3) We process payouts in normal mode.
4) Players money are in safe.

If you mean you dont have enough clout, get promoted.:D
 
I believe it's a situation of the right hand not speaking to the left hand combined with business decisions that have not been publicly announced. I've been in touch with both hands and have decided to remove the casino from the Accredited list until they are fully operational again.

Players are still free to withdraw their funds, or play them out. It's up to them.

I think that's a wise move, considering the uncertainty that management is generating by the manner in which they are handling this, and the lack of responsiveness on their part to genuine player concerns.

If they were not yet ready to speak on this rather nebulous 'restructuring' they should not have started implementing the strategy by disabling the deposits option without bothering to communicate with anyone...that's just simple advanced planning imv.
 
It seems to me that either the right hand does not know what the left hand is doing at Viaden, or there is a deliberate attempt at deception going on here. I really hope it is not the latter.

Clearly the initial excuse of a technical glitch was - as is all too often the case in online gambling - economical with the truth or at best inaccurate. This leaves the most important element in all of this - the player - in the dark and unsettled whilst the company management appear to continue dithering over what to do next.

It's a helluva way to run a company imo, and the longer management takes in sorting itself out, the less confidence there will be in the casino.

After three days or more there should by now be a sense of urgency in getting an official and truthful statement out to the players.

This outfit is regulated by both the Isle of Man and the UK Gambling Commission...you have to wonder what they make of this sort of management behaviour.

Because of how players were handled, I don't think the UK Gambling Commission will be impressed by this. UK players in particular look to a UK license as being the "gold standard" of all possible options for an online gambling business, and to have this happen right under their noses is going to be an embarrassment to the UK government, who have argued that the current system of whitelisted jurisdictions does not effectively protect players, but that secondary licensing by the UK Gambling Commission would.

We only have their word that players who choose to play on and/or withdraw will see their money in the normal timeframe, and given that CS lied on Friday, their word has been devalued.

Although this crossed my mind when seeing this thread, I thought that this was an unlikely cause of the problem because this was one of the few casinos operating with a UK license, and serving only UK customers. I took them at their word that it was a technical glitch that they would solve quickly, if necessary calling in staff to work at the weekend.

Finding the reason to be one normally associated with a casino just about to go bust was quite a shock.

My own personal experience of this was at Casino Action, when one Wednesday afternoon I found all deposit options disabled, but that morning I had been able to submit an "instant" withdrawal to Neteller, and presumably play. This followed the rep saying that everything was "business as usual", and that the recent removal of their eCogra seal was merely "an administrative misunderstanding" which would quickly be put right.

I came within a gnat's whisker of losing over 2K, and it was only the fact that I used the "instant Neteller" function that allowed players to process their own withdrawals through the lobby interface that saved me from the fate that befell other players, particularly those who used the poker products.

THIS is why this kind of thing is SO scary to players, and something operators should avoid at all costs.

One possible interpretation is that the UK Gambling Commission yanked their license, causing a similar thing to happen as happened at Casino Action casinos when Microgaming pulled the license at lunchtime that Wednesday, and disabled the deposit options.

I expect that eventually the UK Gambling Commission will release a statement giving their take on this, and they may decide to suspend the license for review, which will mean it will not be a simple matter of Big Casino just switching on the deposit options when they are done with the changes.

I expect the full story will emerge over the coming week or two.
 
I must say I am a bit frustrated. As I sent emails both from my affiliate email and also have PM Slotmonster way back on 12/3. But had no answers from emails/PM. But I guess there is a reason as I understand. :confused:
 
Hello everyone,

I'm sorry for the delay. I will post an update today.

Thank you!

P.S. @ PaaskeDKnowUK - I replied you via email, but it seems you didn't received it (I've got your though).
 

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