Random Jackpot Question(s)

[ksech]

I asked this in the Slotocash thread, so just in case that thread gets closed...

I know each casino contributes a certain amount of 'seed' money to the Random Jackpot. How does the 'seed' money get put in there? Does the casino have access to put the money in there or must RTG do this? Now when a Random Jackpot is won (or in the case of star12war, where the RJ was won, but the players winnings were voided by overplaying the max bet rule and the RJ is/was to be returned to the pool), but the RJ money has to be returned BACK to the pool, who does this...the casino or RTG?

[Jasminebed]

I think there may be some confusion between the Random Jackpots, and the Progressive Jackpots, which are across the RTG Platforms.

The confusion is understandable, since both have Real Series Slots, and both are progressive jackpots.

Well heck, I was gonna try to explain, but I might be confused too, and it's too late for me to do the research.

Is there a Dogboy in the house?

[chuchu59]

Each rtg casino has its own random jackpots for each real series slot primarily to attract low to medium players to play at their slots which are of high variance. This has obviously worked well and so the traditional slots are left in the fridge so to speak. Iunderstand that the 'seed money' which is usually $1k comes from the casino itself and my guess is every time it is won the slot readjusts to this amount while the accounting stuff is handled by the casino and rtg themselves.

I tend to think ms sloto's explanation , where the casino has to put in a request to rtg to reinstate a jackpot that was won in dubious circumstances, is correct. I am not really sure thoughbut this makes sense imo.

[colly]

Let me add another part to Keschs question= WHat happens hen a RJ is won when playing a max bet chip= tecnically it is valid and paid BUt say your max cashout was 3000 and you had and end ballance of 6500 at the end of playthrough and the RJ was 3000. Under max bets the over rule wipes you balance back to 3000= but does or should the RJ reset??

[maphesto]

Let me add another part to Keschs question= WHat happens hen a RJ is won when playing a max bet chip= tecnically it is valid and paid BUt say your max cashout was 3000 and you had and end ballance of 6500 at the end of playthrough and the RJ was 3000. Under max bets the over rule wipes you balance back to 3000= but does or should the RJ reset??

According to some old threads here about "max cashout" ND bonuses the money won on RJ is put back when this happens at reputable RTG casinos. We have seen examples of it. I remember that one guy hit the RJ (13 000$ ?) and then played his money down to almost nothing and I think the money won from the jackpot was put back when the casino became aware of it. I will search for the thread later.

In your example (with a large max cashout sum) I think it depends on whether I had to use the RJ money to clear WR or not, and how much money I had when the RJ was hit.

If I had 1200 when I hit RJ and there was 8000 left to wager, they clearly don´t have to put RJ money back. If I had 5000 when I hit RJ and there was almost nothing left to wager, they should definately put the money back to the machine (or the machines if they have put them together). That´s what I think.

[chuchu59]

Let me add another part to Keschs question= WHat happens hen a RJ is won when playing a max bet chip= tecnically it is valid and paid BUt say your max cashout was 3000 and you had and end ballance of 6500 at the end of playthrough and the RJ was 3000. Under max bets the over rule wipes you balance back to 3000= but does or should the RJ reset??

Solely based on your question the casino should reinstate bthe RJ minus the amount of the max cashout where applicable. However, it could also be argued that the 'max cashout' winnings were not solely derived from the RJ in which case it would be impossible to calculate how much to reinstate.

There are also other scenarios eg if the RJ was won again before the reinstatement of the previous RJ where the player may feel hard done by because he felt he had contributed a lot to the RJ in the past. At the end of the day, its up to the casino to make the right decision though none of the present rtgs, I venture to say, have done the right thing out of their own accord without some sort of pressure.

[maphesto]

At the end of the day, its up to the casino to make the right decision though none of the present rtgs, I venture to say, have done the right thing out of their own accord without some sort of pressure.

You may be right here, but I think we have seen at least one example of a RJ which was put back before "some sort of pressure". I will search in old threads!

EDIT: Didn´t find exactly what I was looking for but here is one post about same thing:

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...tml#post264189

[Slotster!]

FWIW, I asked this question and was told "Minutes, alright - maybe an hour. Certainly not days or weeks" - I just posted it on that other thread. I'm not under any circumstances going to tell anyone who said that however, so clearly it's not the most reliable piece of information other than me saying that honestly they did (because I could be totally making it up) But I trust them, and they did say that. So there you go.

Maybe this would be a great question for you to post over on the Casinomeister thread for him to ask over the next few days in London? RTG Reps will be there...

[Sloto]

FYI RTG put the jackpot back on request from operator. Operator posts a request and this gets action by RTG. In the case of Sloto'Cash I can confirm the jackpot was put back as per our request.

[Slotster!]

FYI RTG put the jackpot back on request from operator. Operator posts a request and this gets action by RTG. In the case of Sloto'Cash I can confirm the jackpot was put back as per our request.

How long does this on average take in your experience Ms S? Is my guy right saying it's usually about an hour or so?