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    let's get serious about roulette systems

    Anyone who has played roulette has a system some will double there bet 4x others indefinitely, Some bet exclusive columns or dozens, some will only flatbet with no doubling, the list goes on and on, Every single one of these systems works..........for a little while, given the right circumstances. The systems are all viable what comes into play is human error.

    Take martingale for instance you double and double til you win, the bet becomes too much for your risk tolerance, or you exceed the table limit. What happens is you lose too much on a single bet and can't recover or a series of smaller wagers that exceed your level of risk beats you down. But what if you did your research? Generally you would find that the number series that you lost too is a rare occurrence and had it not been for that pattern you would be o.k. So should have not made that error.

    Let's put it into perspective it is common for 3 of the same color but not more than 6 so strategy say's you should do your progressive 4x and on the 5th you should switch method's let's say by going to the color that is appearing, but money management, martingale would dictate betting 16 chips but you are gambling so instead you should lower that bet let's say 4 chips bet on the color that is appearing if you win lower that bet again to 2 and say you lose, you have just witnessed a run of colors that you have noticed is a rare occurrence so because of probability you know chances are good the same scenario won't repeat itself for a while so.......now you should feel relatively safe betting 2 or 4 chips on your progressive knowing that more than likely for the next little while a run will not appear exceeding 3 0r 4 but it might..........so then what, same thing odds of probability if a run comes up higher that's 2 that have appeared and now it is very very unlikely to see a run again.

    I guess what I am trying to get at is the randomness of the game isn't alway's against you the use of proper money management during a losing streak is critical in order to make a recovery. I know all kinds of people will come on here blah blah blahing about no winning system to roulette and for the most part they are right but head on over to the wizard of odds sight and ask a few questions you'll see that the times where you have lost your stomach for a particular strategy are the best times to be enforcing it with a vengeance.

    By that I mean the sequence that hit you hard is not likely to repeat itself in the near future but you should be prepared if it does by proper money management and that rare occurrence where it does come again only increases the likelihood that it won't. Now feel free to debunk me I expect it but you can't tell me this isn't good strategy for a random game.

    Try it out I dare you when that big run of red wipes you out bet more than you normally do on the bet's after that run and because of probability (the same event won't repeat itself) you'll likely come out happier. Not every time but most times.
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    Your post is very hard to read.
    You might want to break it up, add some line breaks to make it easy to read.

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    I know I will get some flack for this post but I really think that there is some system out ther yet to be discovered which will give a consistant profit on
    most games of chance. Martingdale has been the downfall of many players
    esp on roullette but used at appropriate times does give the player a short term advantage.I think we all tend to use it in some form even just increasing stakes on fruits when hitting a losing run.
    a couple of things about the randonmess of red/black on roulette have always made me think.

    Firstly if you do a run of say 1000 and hit say 10 reds in a row,when the run is complete, you will rarely find that reflected in the final red/black ratio. ie there does seem to be some compensation which evens the red and black count out.

    if you dont bet until you see a run of 10 reds (a 1024 to 1 chance) - unlikely but it does happen then use martingale to bet on red,what is the chance of
    hitting another long run of reds - 10 more would give be an overall chance of over 1 miilion - very unlikey so is there any merit merit is doing that.
    I know there have roullette systems based on the latter and they have always been dismissed ( probably with good reason)

    The usual comment is that you cannot and will not beat the house edge in the long run and mathmaticians have tried to devise a system for a long time with out any real success. but it can be interesting think about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow123 View Post
    I know I will get some flack for this post but I really think that there is some system out there yet to be discovered which will give a consistant profit on most games of chance.
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    {edit} Why is this thread in Skill Games?
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    {edit} Why is this thread in Skill Games?
    Is roulette a game of skill now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow123 View Post

    if you dont bet until you see a run of 10 reds (a 1024 to 1 chance) - unlikely but it does happen then use martingale to bet on red,what is the chance of
    hitting another long run of reds - 10 more would give be an overall chance of over 1 miilion - very unlikey so is there any merit merit is doing that.
    I know there have roullette systems based on the latter and they have always been dismissed ( probably with good reason)
    The chance of getting another 10 reds is the same as the chance of the first 10 reds, 1 in 1024 (actually less than this due to the 0). The fact that you have already had 10 reds does not matter and does not change the probability of 10 more reds going forward.



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    The usual comment is that you cannot and will not beat the house edge in the long run and mathmaticians have tried to devise a system for a long time with out any real success. but it can be interesting think about it
    You can't gain a short term advantage either, or any kind of advantage. Winning does not = an advantage. Winning = luck.

    I doubt any mathematicians are wasting their time trying to devise a roulette system. It's very simply proved as impossible, not matter how you structure your bets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow123 View Post
    I know I will get some flack for this post but I really think that there is some system out ther yet to be discovered which will give a consistant profit on
    most games of chance. Martingdale has been the downfall of many players
    esp on roullette but used at appropriate times does give the player a short term advantage.I think we all tend to use it in some form even just increasing stakes on fruits when hitting a losing run.
    a couple of things about the randonmess of red/black on roulette have always made me think.

    Firstly if you do a run of say 1000 and hit say 10 reds in a row,when the run is complete, you will rarely find that reflected in the final red/black ratio. ie there does seem to be some compensation which evens the red and black count out.

    if you dont bet until you see a run of 10 reds (a 1024 to 1 chance) - unlikely but it does happen then use martingale to bet on red,what is the chance of
    hitting another long run of reds - 10 more would give be an overall chance of over 1 miilion - very unlikey so is there any merit merit is doing that.
    I know there have roullette systems based on the latter and they have always been dismissed ( probably with good reason)

    The usual comment is that you cannot and will not beat the house edge in the long run and mathmaticians have tried to devise a system for a long time with out any real success. but it can be interesting think about it

    Simple Roulette system.

    1) Use martingale, or whatever you fancy.
    2) When you get ahead, QUIT FOR EVER!!!

    You then have a Roulette system that has made you a LIFETIME PROFIT

    Step 2 is important, since it ensures the long term edge never gets the chance to do it's job, which is the undoing of every Roulette system that has ever existed before.

    Almost 50% of people who have tried this system rate it a success
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