RTG return to player percentages

[4 of a kind]

I hope I’m wrong here, but I just can’t help but to wonder why a more serious response wasn’t taken after Casino-Jack a well known casino rep on this site bluntly told us that RTG is rigged in the thread titled “Playfair Casino”

1) First he tells a poster in this thread that was complaining about how tight the site was, to p.m. him his favorite 3 games, and he will make sure they are on the max RTP setting the next time he plays giving him a better chance for a good session. Basically what this means is that if you’re connected with a rep. you obviously can get a better game then anyone else simply by complaining. I wonder what Casino-Jack could do for me if I was his personal friend, or family member? His lame explanation for this (at will) manipulation of the RTP, was that everyone that played these same games while the RTP was tweaked up, would also benefit the same. The problem with this is that no one would know except the player that p.m.’d him. So if I’m on the site the same time the privileged informed player is, while I’m getting my butt kicked playing Green Light set at 90%, he’s playing Texas Tycoon at 97.5%. Not that I wouldn’t get my butt kicked playing Texas Tycoon, but I certainly would have a better chance. So, it’s obvious that lame explanation that we all have the same RTP was just a line of bullshit trying to cover his tracks.

2) Since he made it clear as an operator that he has the power at will to tweak the machines up or down any time he wants, I then asked him another question. I asked “if I spiked a hit for 10k, and felt it was my lucky day and instead of cashing out started to surf the site and play assorted machines of course raising my bets, could he follow me around and lower the machines I decided to play in an attempt to help the casino get its money back”? His response was yes that could be done. But he didn’t know any operators that did that. ARE YOU FN KIDDING ME???!!! Try telling that to the million posters here that have been complaining about RTG especially after a decent hit and going completely blank afterwards for the last two years.

3) I asked him if he could lower the RTP to 60% if he wanted. He said he’s pretty sure he could only lower it to 90%, but it would depend on the game, and that he would have to look into it.

This conversation was completed some where around 7pm last night. Since that time this thread is fading into the night without any serious responses. Not one of the many affiliate’s on this site that promote RTG weighted in on this topic with any input what so ever.

The important information in this thread is not being recognized along with several real important ones in the past that got forgotten and eventually drift far away. Pinababy69 was a warrior for this site and always stood up for what was right and demanded answers. As you could see she is one of a few good posters that no longer post here. Her last argument was the reels missing symbols, and the progressive jackpot that went bye-bye along with the game both at RTG casinos. Where were the symbols and where did the jackpot go? She had them backed into a corner. First they admitted there was a problem with the game, and that the jackpot would be returned. Then as time went by, everything was being denied, and to this day there are still no answers. As you could see she faded away just like that thread.

Yet all the casino reps here are still getting there daily spam cleverly in. Look at casino-jack, after he dropped the bomb last night he suddenly is laying low. I saw him online several times but he never made another post, probably checking on the thread hoping it went away just like it did. But he still couldn’t resist the opportunity to spam. A player bragged about how quick he got paid at one of his sites. His only post since last night was “Congrats! We are pretty fast; I didn’t even have a chance to look into it” SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM.

When the shit hits the fan here all the reps. and the affiliates are no where to be found till the smoke clears.

This is all the proof you need to confirm RTG is rigged. Better yet just let it fade away so we could go on debating the next thousand or so posts’ complaining about why they think RTG is rigged, and getting the ole responses from affiliates and reps. on how it was just bad luck, and prove it with a million hands or some stupid crap like that.

I certainly could go on here, but really don’t want to write a book. God knows what they could really do, obviously this slipped out by mistake.

You want proof, well here it is. I would assume this thread also will vanish...

[rockycatt]

this aint rtg but it shows as we all probobly seen this on games we bought .

but is it this simple to do world wide please tell me it's not this easy ------------->

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[casinojack]

I hope I’m wrong here, but I just can’t help but to wonder why a more serious response wasn’t taken after Casino-Jack a well known casino rep on this site bluntly told us that RTG is rigged in the thread titled “Playfair Casino”

1) First he tells a poster in this thread that was complaining about how tight the site was, to p.m. him his favorite 3 games, and he will make sure they are on the max RTP setting the next time he plays giving him a better chance for a good session. Basically what this means is that if you’re connected with a rep. you obviously can get a better game then anyone else simply by complaining. I wonder what Casino-Jack could do for me if I was his personal friend, or family member? His lame explanation for this (at will) manipulation of the RTP, was that everyone that played these same games while the RTP was tweaked up, would also benefit the same. The problem with this is that no one would know except the player that p.m.’d him. So if I’m on the site the same time the privileged informed player is, while I’m getting my butt kicked playing Green Light set at 90%, he’s playing Texas Tycoon at 97.5%. Not that I wouldn’t get my butt kicked playing Texas Tycoon, but I certainly would have a better chance. So, it’s obvious that lame explanation that we all have the same RTP was just a line of bullshit trying to cover his tracks.

2) Since he made it clear as an operator that he has the power at will to tweak the machines up or down any time he wants, I then asked him another question. I asked “if I spiked a hit for 10k, and felt it was my lucky day and instead of cashing out started to surf the site and play assorted machines of course raising my bets, could he follow me around and lower the machines I decided to play in an attempt to help the casino get its money back”? His response was yes that could be done. But he didn’t know any operators that did that. ARE YOU FN KIDDING ME???!!! Try telling that to the million posters here that have been complaining about RTG especially after a decent hit and going completely blank afterwards for the last two years.

3) I asked him if he could lower the RTP to 60% if he wanted. He said he’s pretty sure he could only lower it to 90%, but it would depend on the game, and that he would have to look into it.

This conversation was completed some where around 7pm last night. Since that time this thread is fading into the night without any serious responses. Not one of the many affiliate’s on this site that promote RTG weighted in on this topic with any input what so ever.

The important information in this thread is not being recognized along with several real important ones in the past that got forgotten and eventually drift far away. Pinababy69 was a warrior for this site and always stood up for what was right and demanded answers. As you could see she is one of a few good posters that no longer post here. Her last argument was the reels missing symbols, and the progressive jackpot that went bye-bye along with the game both at RTG casinos. Where were the symbols and where did the jackpot go? She had them backed into a corner. First they admitted there was a problem with the game, and that the jackpot would be returned. Then as time went by, everything was being denied, and to this day there are still no answers. As you could see she faded away just like that thread.

Yet all the casino reps here are still getting there daily spam cleverly in. Look at casino-jack, after he dropped the bomb last night he suddenly is laying low. I saw him online several times but he never made another post, probably checking on the thread hoping it went away just like it did. But he still couldn’t resist the opportunity to spam. A player bragged about how quick he got paid at one of his sites. His only post since last night was “Congrats! We are pretty fast; I didn’t even have a chance to look into it” SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM.

When the shit hits the fan here all the reps. and the affiliates are no where to be found till the smoke clears.

This is all the proof you need to confirm RTG is rigged. Better yet just let it fade away so we could go on debating the next thousand or so posts’ complaining about why they think RTG is rigged, and getting the ole responses from affiliates and reps. on how it was just bad luck, and prove it with a million hands or some stupid crap like that.

I certainly could go on here, but really don’t want to write a book.

I was on often look at new posts. When one asks questions and draws their own conclusions there is nothing left to say.

Being my explanations were "lame" as you put it, there is nothing more for me to add. I was trying to help in sharing knowledge, and instead you had your own agenda.

The games are WELL above what is legal in any casino in the USA.
I was hoping with the threads I had participated in for something unique for players, to offer unprecedented information.

Seems your mindset is all games are "rigged", no matter what I say.

I wish you well in your endeavors,I will not reply anymore.

[4 of a kind]

this aint rtg

Thanks I corrected.

[vegetagirl2008]

Now the cats out of the bag, where do we go from here? When he made those statements in the other thread not only he threw his own casino under the bus but a whole lot of other RTG casinos as well.


As far as Pinababy69 is concerned sometimes real life take precedence over the virtual world and we have to respect them for it. Its alright to be Joan of Ark but even she needs a break.

[BMWSTACK]

Wow are you serious...they control the payout??? ok sorry for the sarcasm... of course they can change the payout ...so can every other casino including B&M casinos...now of course they dont follow you around in B&M and switch it, but i do sometimes wonder when they open my machine for a tilt...or better yet all the slots are on a main computer in the casino...i wonder if they can change it from the control room at the B&M casinos...i do appreciate jack giving out that info even though its not a surprise...and at the same time changing percentages in the minimal sense such as 91-97% wouldnt even probably make a difference to me ,,now down to 60% that would make me mad, but i swear ive played on 30% payout both online and in B&M...

[same_old]

I was on often look at new posts. When one asks questions and draws their own conclusions there is nothing left to say.

Being my explanations were "lame" as you put it, there is nothing more for me to add. I was trying to help in sharing knowledge, and instead you had your own agenda.

The games are WELL above what is legal in any casino in the USA.
I was hoping with the threads I had participated in for something unique for players, to offer unprecedented information.

Seems your mindset is all games are "rigged", no matter what I say.

I wish you well in your endeavors,I will not reply anymore.

IM not going to get into this one to much but have a couple of things to add.

If I'am at a B&M casino and play a slot machine and win and then I decide to move to another machine then it is like iam sitting at a brand new slot with no memory of my previous play at the other slot so it should not have any bearing of the previous play..

Playing online I really dont think that is the case- IT really seems if you have luck on a machine and then move on those stats will move over to the next machine your on, this shouldnt be the case.

Mind you this isnt only RTG either I have noticed this with Microgaming etc.

[Nifty29]

Some very interesting information here....and apparently 'straight from the horses mouth' as it were. Im not going to post anything much until I read all those posts for myself, but I cant see this thread going away anytime soon.

Her last argument was the reels missing symbols, and the progressive jackpot that went bye-bye along with the game both at RTG casinos. Where were the symbols and where did the jackpot go? She had them backed into a corner. First they admitted there was a problem with the game, and that the jackpot would be returned. Then as time went by, everything was being denied, and to this day there are still no answers. As you could see she faded away just like that thread.

Didnt this happen at a Top Game Casino, not RTG?? Im pretty sure Im right here, but Im happy to stand corrected.

[winbig]

then it is like iam sitting at a brand new slot with no memory of my previous play at the other slot so it should not have any bearing of the previous play..

Just to throw a wrench in the works - if you're playing B&M slots and have your players card inserted, anything is possible...But with all the audits that are done on those machines, they'd pick up on it if the software was doing stuff like that.

[nisosbar]

Actually, as most gamblers know, the casinos are ALL rigged - they are rigged so that the casino wins over the long-term, with extremely few exceptions (I don't mean they are giving individual players exceptions, but rather that there are a very few games which are positive expected value for the player, and I think blackjack single deck is one, right?). I know you knew that, but I just thought I would remind people that what casinos provide is entertainment, not a way to make a living.

I did pretty well this weekend on Bodog's casino. Does that mean that the odds on their slots are now in my favor? Of course not. They never will be. What it does mean is that variance is paying me back now some.