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How did you get the data? Got any more? I plotted out Tomb Raider myself - took bleedin hours & hours! ![]() Some other members have posted ThunderStruck/Ladies/Spring and Harveys in the past too.
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I posted in some other thread, also two years ago, how you do it. It's really simple. The flash casino infact feeds you the reel layout, together with symbol positions and symbol numbers for each spin - so by looking at the HTTP traffic to the browser you crack the reels in under 10 spins on all the videoslots with feature. The others don't feed the reel layout, so there you need say 20-30 minutes pr game to crack tops. Good thing is you get 100% accuracy this way. Cracking the other games is harder since you need to sniff TCP traffic (windump is your dos tool), however I have no experience in depacking TCP packets so it's only garble to me. Maby i'll take a wack at the rest of the slots tomorrow if not someone else does it by then. I recomend HTTPWatch for IE, nice tool to grab all the traffic between the browser and MG-server. I have alot of questions regarding the other information comming in the XML feed, but I will save this for an appropriate thread - trying to keep this thread strictly reel cracking, ![]() |
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I know there is a lot of work in this, and people are interested, but I have to ask what good does it do? How can this information help?
Sorry to be dense, but I don't understand how this translates into helping you beat slots.
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It won't help you beat slots - but it will help you estimate the theoretical return %, as opposed to relying on empirical monthly data that the casinos publish. |
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Yes, this is a major breakthrough! I will add the new slots to the slot simulator in 1-2 days. It will be interesting so see how much the payout differ between them.
I will need help from the veterans with Tomb Raider because of the picking bonus games. Since the symbols has to be lined up the usual left-to-right way, the analyzer can be used on it, we just need to know what the average win is in terms of bet-size for 3,4,5 scatters. Anyone? The other more special slots with weird features can not be analyzed at the time. But it can be implemented of course if I have time. I did a lot of work trying to get the reels a faster way, but it was stupid that I did not sniff the traffic during initialization of the slots. I even decompiled the flash code but could not find the reels. (which should have given me a clue at least) Also now when we have the reels available so easy, we can see very fast if any MG updates actually are slot updates changing the reels/payouts. Zooizie |
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The player picks 1 idol for each symbol that triggered the feature (3, 4 or 5). Each idol contains between 12x - 100x of the amount bet on the payline. So the average win per idol is ([100 - 12] / 2) + 12 = 56x payline bet, therefore the combined average wins are: 3 idols = 168x payline bet = 11.20x total bet if all 15 lines are played 4 idols = 224x payline bet = 14.93x total bet if all 15 lines are played 5 idols = 280x payline bet = 18.67x total bet if all 15 lines are played To make it easier, just treat 3 idols as a regular payline win of 168 coins, 4 idols as a regular payline win of 224 coins, and 5 idols as a regular payline win of 280 coins. And this applies to Bush Telegraph, Mermaids Millions, Wasabi-San and World Cup Mania since they're all clones of the same game. Last edited by SlotsWizard; 13th August 2007 at 10:57 AM. Reason: Son of a glitch |
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I screwed up a little. Fortunately I was able to edit the above post, which now contains the correct figures. I had forgotten to add the 12 back in to the per-idol payout.
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************************************************** ***** Then we have some more reels to line up, in this lineup:
Cashville 0 - Wild with red ruby 1 - Bill Burton 2 - Dame Von Deeds 3 - Sir Sterling 4 - Betty Boodle 5 - sigar dollar 6 - Blue dollars, purple thing 7 - green dollars with coins 8 - Purple dollars 9 - Bonus 10 - Scatter Reel 1: 0,8,2,7,5,6,10,2,1,7,5,3,6,9,5,7,4,5,7,3,8,5,7 Reel 2: 0,4,6,1,8,6,3,5,8,6,3,7,9,8,1,5,6,10,8,2,6,4,8,7 Reel 3: 0,6,5,8,4,5,10,6,1,8,7,3,6,5,8,6,2,5,9,7,5,1,7,4,6 ,8,7,2,6,7,5 Reel 4: 0,8,5,6,3,5,8,2,6,5,4,6,8,1,5,7,4,6,3,5,9,6,1,5,7, 10,6,2,5,7,8,5,6,7 Reel 5: 0,7,8,2,5,6,9,8,1,5,6,4,5,6,2,8,6,5,7,4,5,6,1,7,8, 10,5,7,3,6,10,5 Tally Ho 0 - Wild (horse) 1 - Fox 2 - Foxy lady 3 - Capitol 4 - Yellow Car 5 - Horse emblem (two horses) 6 - Blue pottery 7 - Strawberries 8 - Sandwitches 9 - Cakes on plate, with knife 10 - Cheese on wooden piece 11 - Cheece pie pice with fork (white with purple spot) 12 - Scatter Reel 1: 0,2,11,5,1,2,7,10,9,5,4,6,12,9,8,3,2,1,3,9,10,5,6, 9,8,11,9,8,4,5 Reel 2: 0,11,12,4,2,1,11,9,5,6,7,9,11,4,5,3,9,10,3,9,2,4,3 ,6,9,4,11,7,8,9 Reel 3: 0,2,10,8,1,4,7,10,8,6,10,12,3,1,6,11,10,8,5,6,10,7 ,3,8,4,1,8,10,9,8 Reel 4: 0,4,9,7,11,6,5,1,2,7,8,11,7,10,9,3,7,4,5,11,7,3,12 ,6,2,1,5,6,10,11 Reel 5: 0,3,2,9,8,4,1,2,5,10,6,4,9,1,10,6,8,7,5,3,8,9,3,1, 2,5,7,11,6,10,8,7,2,4,10,3,6,11,9,1,5,12,2,4 What on Earth 0 - What on Earth 1 - Alien inside red ring 2 - Control Panel 3 - Kryptonite (Green asteroide) 4 - Watermelon 5 - Plum 6 - Orange 7 - Cherry 8 - Blue ship 9 - Green UFO 10 - Red Rocket Reel 1: 0,7,6,3,4,5,7,6,3,4,5,7,3,4,5,7,6,10,3,7,5,6,3,4,5 ,6,2,4,5,7,6,3,4,5,6,3,4,5,7,6,1,4,5,3,4,7,6,3,4,5 ,6,3,4,5,7,6,3,4,5,7,6,5 Reel 2: 0,6,7,5,4,7,6,5,7,6,1,7,4,6,5,3,7,4,6,7,5,10,7,6,5 ,7,2,4,7 Reel 3: 0,4,6,9,4,5,7,2,6,4,10,5,7,3,1,7,6,3,7,5,8,7 Reel 4: 0,5,3,10,6,2,7,8,6,5,1,4,9,1,7,3,2,7,6,3 Reel 5: 0,7,3,8,6,1,7,5,10,4,1,6,9,2,6,3,10,5,2,3,10,4,1,7 ,3,1,6 Reel Strike 0 - Wild 1 - Reel Strike symbol 2 - Yatch in window 3 - Speed throttle 4 - Big fish, head right with big yellow "hair" 5 - Blue/metalish fish flapping 6 - Blue long fish, head to right 7 - Red fish flapping 8 - Flying fish 9 - Bonus 10 - Bonus (Only in bonus game) 11 - Scatter Reel 1: 0,8,5,9,7,5,1,6,7,9,8,5,6,9,7,2,5,9,4,11,3,6,9,8,4 ,9,8,6,2,7 Reel 2: 0,7,4,6,9,7,8,9,1,11,9,7,8,4,9,8,5,9,6,4,2,8,9,3,4 ,6,9,7,3 Reel 3: 0,8,7,9,2,6,3,8,9,4,5,11,4,9,5,4,3,9,5,7,8,9,4,5,6 ,9,1,7,9,5,6 Reel 4: 0,8,7,9,8,3,9,1,6,9,2,3,9,11,5,9,4,7,9,6,3,5,9,8,2 ,6,5,2,9,7,1 Reel 5: 0,7,8,2,3,9,1,3,6,9,5,4,2,6,8,1,9,7,3,6,9,4,2,8,9, 5,1,4,5,6,9,1,8,11,3,9,4,5,9,7,2 Bonus reelsets: Reel 1: 0,8,5,10,7,5,1,6,7,10,8,5,6,10,7,2,5,10,4,11,3,6,1 0,8,4,10,8,6,2,7 Reel 2: 0,7,4,6,10,7,8,10,1,11,10,7,8,4,10,8,5,10,6,4,2,8, 10,3,4,6,10,7,3 Reel 3: 0,8,7,10,2,6,3,8,10,4,5,11,4,10,5,4,3,10,5,7,8,10, 4,5,6,10,1,7,10,5,6 Reel 4: 0,8,7,10,8,3,10,1,6,10,2,3,10,11,5,10,4,7,10,6,3,5 ,10,8,2,6,5,2,10,7,1 Reel 5: 0,7,8,2,3,10,1,3,6,10,5,4,2,6,8,1,10,7,3,6,10,4,2, 8,10,5,1,4,5,6,10,1,8,11,3,10,4,5,10,7,2 HOHOHO 0 - Santa 1 - Reindeer 2 - Santas sley 3 - Christmas tree 4 - Turkey 5 - Chocolate "ball" with topping 6 - Punch, coockies and glas of milk 7 - Pepper man 8 - Sugarcane 9 - Gift (feature) Reel 1: 0,7,5,4,6,8,3,2,7,6,4,9,8,5,1,7,3,6,8,7,2,8,6,7,8, 6 Reel 2: 0,7,6,2,5,6,8,4,1,7,0,4,7,8,6,1,8,9,5,6,3,8,7,2,8, 6,7,3 Reel 3: 0,8,2,1,7,6,8,4,3,5,4,7,9,8,5,3,7,4,6,8,2,6,5,3,7, 1,6,4,3,5,6,8,2,7 Reel 4: 0,2,7,3,6,1,5,3,8,7,6,5,4,1,3,2,6,1,8,9,7,6,2,4,6, 1,4,3,5,4,8,6,4,1,7,2,5,8 Reel 5: 0,8,7,6,2,1,7,5,9,8,3,4,2,6,5,1,3,4,7,3,5,1,4,9,6, 2,8,1,6,5,3,7,2,4,8,3,1,6 Mermaids Millions 0 - Wild, Neptun 1 - Treasure chest 2 - diamond chest 3 - Clam with Perl 4 - Seahorse / Hippocampus 5 - A 6 - K 7 - Q 8 - J 9 - 10 10 - Scatter Reel 1: 0,10,6,5,1,4,3,8,0,7,5,1,6,2,4,1,7,8,3,9,8,1,9,7 Reel 2: 0,1,7,3,6,7,9,5,2,8,1,3,5,9,7,2,9,10,6,5,4,9,1,6,3 ,7,8,4 Reel 3: 0,9,3,2,8,7,1,9,5,4,6,5,8,10,9,6,4,8,5,7,1,9,3,6,4 ,8,2,7,5,4,6,7,3,8 Reel 4: 0,3,8,4,7,2,6,4,9,8,1,7,6,5,2,4,3,7,2,9,10,8,7,3,5 ,7,2,5,4,6,5,1,9,5,7,2,8,3,6,9 Reel 5: 0,9,1,8,7,3,2,8,6,10,9,4,5,3,7,6,2,4,5,8,4,6,2,1,5 ,7,3,9,2,7,6,4,8,1,3,5,9,4,2,7 Big Kahuna 0 - Big Kahuna 1 - Ogha Bugha man 2 - Lizard 3 - Orange 4 - ..Green fruit 5 - ..Red fruit 6 - Water melon 7 - Ananas 8 - Red berries 9 - Vulcano 10 - Ugha Bugha mask 11 - Monkey / Scatter Reel 1: 0,8,2,9,7,1,9,3,6,2,10,5,1,9,7,2,10,5,4,11,10,3,5, 9,2,8,4,9,1,6,10 Reel 2: 0,7,10,3,6,2,8,10,1,11,9,7,2,10,3,4,5,9,6,4,2,8,10 ,3,4,1,10,3,7,9 Reel 3: 0,1,10,7,2,6,3,8,1,4,11,2,9,5,4,3,6,1,7,8,2,10,5,6 ,9,1,7,8 Reel 4: 0,2,7,9,8,3,1,10,2,6,3,11,5,9,4,7,9,6,3,5,8,2,10,6 ,2,5,9,7,1,10 Reel 5: 0,7,8,2,3,10,1,3,6,9,5,4,2,10,6,8,1,9,7,3,6,9,4,2, 8,10,5,1,4,5,6,9,1,8,10,11,3,4,2,5,7,1 |
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