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Old 4th July 2007, 07:30 PM
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After winning at MG - Get the hell out!

As I always accumulate stats after a playing session, I just wanted to spread the "news" a little bit since I posted some nice winning shots last night. Infact I was very lucky last night and had some great wins, however
the luch turned very fast. I thought I was upto almost €9000, however looking more into the stats I see it was €8000 - seems I missed a thousand there... However, the moral of this post is for you people next time you win
big on a MG casino - please I tell you - get the hell out! The software will penalize you bigtime, I was just not aware on how cold the software can turn on you! The scoreboard for €7880, thats my bank right after my last win
which was the Inca Gold win - posted in winnin shots.

I also floor the cash result numbers, so 1.9 becomes 1. Also, the below results are 8 hours of play, and the play is mostly done on €5-€10 wagering.

Have fun - and be very glad the €7880 worth below wasnt yours, now they are back into Casino Classic pockets,

Bold on the few wins that matter, the other wins I dont really count as wins. (gaining €50 I dont count as a win)

GAME | PAYOUT % | CASH RESULT
- Avalon, 42%, -€1
- Bar bar blacksheep, 59%, -€271
- Bush Telegraph, 84%, -€184
+ Cabin fever, 100%, €0
- Cash Splash 5 Reel, 10%, -€13
- Cashanova, 55%, -€71
- Cashville, 26%, -€214
+ Chocolate Factory, 130%, €25
- Crazy 80s, 50%, -€13
- Dino Might, 42%, -€348
+ Dog Father, 147%, €95
- Dolphin Tale, 59%, -€76
- Elementals, 39%, -€54
- Flying Circus, 66%, -€18
+ GG Totem Treasure, 170%, €49
- GG Winning Wizards, 61%, -€15
+ Glory of Rome, 154%, €621
- Good to Go, 18%, -€487
- Harveys, 80%, -€562
- Hot Shot, 18%, -€342
- Jellyfish Jaunt, 39%, -€435
- Jungle Jim, 50%, -€170
- Kathmandu, 25%, -€245
- Keno V3:Start Anim, 77%, -€12
- King Cashalot, 14%, -€13
- Ladies Nite, 51%, -€1252
- Lady of the Orient, 57%, -€57
- Life's a Beach, 47%, -€1075
- Loaded, 51%, -€349
- Lucky Charmer, 50%, -€1
- Mad Hatters, 54%, -€183
- Major Millions 5 Reel, 4%, -€57
+ Mega Moolah, 116%, €53
- Mermaids Millions, 46%, -€180
- Moonshine, 58%, -€57
- Muchos Grande, 53%, -€169
- Nutty Squirrel, 85%, -€52
+ Prime Property, 118%, €61
+ Reel Thunder, 500%, €10 (1 spin)
- Santa Paws, 40%, -€50
- Secret Admirer, 12%, -€622
- Skull Duggery, 70%, -€12
- Spring Break, 61%, -€500
- StarScape, 18%, -€66
- Summertime, 86%, -€3
- Supe It Up, 18%, -€178
- Table - Atlantic City Blackjack, 62%, -€45
- Table - Atlantic City Blackjack GOLD, 78%, -€395
+ Tally Ho, 310%, €775
- The High Life, 68%, -€325
- Thunderstruck, 67%, -€327
- Tomb Raider, 77%, -€167
+ Totem Treasure, 1000%, €90 (1 spin)
- Treasure Nile, 96%, -€18
+ Twin Samurai, 116%, €285
- Twister, 42%, -€160
+ Wasabi-San, 153%, €17
+ What a Hoot, 124%, €43
+ Wheel Of Wealth, 106%, €5
- Witch Dr, 70%, -€86

As mentioned in winning thread, I hope theese results may waken some up to the horrors of not quitting the casino
if you should have some luck.

Take care people!

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These figures would be far more meaningful if the number of spins taken was included. You should also calculate the overall payout over all the slots, based on amount wagered, not won/lost - this should come close to 95% with a large enough number of spins.
I have noticed cetain slots appear to exhibit certain behaviours when cold. Munchkins, one of my favourites, often gives plenty of bonus rounds, but sometimes goes stone cold, during which the scatters all but disappear, and when they do appear, it is only one at a time, whereas if it has warmed up they appear in pairs quite frequently.
I have also noticed that when appearing singly, and then a bonus round comes in, it is crap, as the scatters rarely come in pairs, and reel wins are sparse, often only 3 in a row, which pays poorly.
The "run like hell" signal for Munchkins seems to be the bonus round that comes with retriggers, followed by the sudden fall in the frequency of scatters. This often starts a sequence of 300 to 600 bonus round free spins, during which the reel wins determine how severe the bankroll gets hit.
The "up yer bet" signal on Munchkins is plenty of paired scatters, and decent reel wins, or after a first poor bonus round after 400+ spins without one, and with the frequency of scatters sharply increased.
Similar patterns seem to emerge at the other slots. Occasionally the signals turn out wrong, but they are right more often than they should be, given that the games are "random".
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Old 4th July 2007, 08:23 PM
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Seems I posted the wrong session here, I'll post new post with correct stats. Im not thinking clear here,

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I could go on forever with examples like those given by VWM
Unfortunately in my experience changing slot, logging out etc makes no difference.
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Unfortunately in my experience changing slot, logging out etc makes no difference.
I have raised the wuestion earlier regarding MG - Do you play on 180+ games or do you play on 1 game with 180+ skins? Changing sessions does not work either, the last €4500 above was played todag - the day after i won. So apparently 1 day later doesn't get you out of the "penalize" mode after a win.

Doh! If I use my brain a little, since the casino has 48hours pening on withdrawals - I would guess that the "penalize" period atleast lasts for 48 hours. That makes perfectly sence! 3 Days I would think and you are back on track.
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I have raised the wuestion earlier regarding MG - Do you play on 180+ games or do you play on 1 game with 180+ skins?

Personally I think that is a very pertinent question and we all have our own theories.
Of course we do not have to play but wouldn't it be nice to really know with absolute certainty?
I would love to have a nice long browse through the code, so RTG/MG just pop me a copy on disk
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Did you still cashout anything Kimss? Are you the same guy/gal who started that thread a year or so ago "How to blow 5K in one evening?" That was a good thread. If that was you, I thought you quit gambling?

In any event, I sure hope that you didn't give everything back to the casino and that you still have some money coming to you via cashout?

I hate stories like this, if you did lose it all. I'd be so sick if I ever blew back that kind of money....I think it would finish me gambling for good.
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Are you the same guy/gal who started that thread a year or so ago "How to blow 5K in one evening?"
Yepp, thats me, And I'm sorry to say there is 0 in the balance, nothing to show for. Nothing left, I blew it all back! Could be a new thread, how to blow almost €8000 in an evening, Seems I beat my own record there... huh...

I did stop gambling, meaning I banned myself with Ecogra for a year - then I came back and have wagered away around €15,000 euroes since february. Looking at this post it's no wonder... My problem is obviously not living through the pending withdrawal method. I must admit landbased casinoes are much better, and probably what I should get back to. Cash is king - somthing that doesn't work online it seems... (I did withdraw €7000! So I should have had that, but reverse withdrawal blows!) As Slotster said in another thread, "Go mental the next day"... Weeee....
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Man, that sucks Kimss. Sorry to hear it. If you don't want to quit altogether, maybe you should at least play at a casino that will flush, and pays the next day. You may have been able to save something out of it. Try and stay away from the ones that leave your withdrawal sitting in the cashier for 48 hours.
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Seems I posted wrong session earlier, here is the correct session which I started the thread with. Attached is also a HTML file, with TXT extension for those who would want that version.

And for the total correct payout % that would be:

22305.14 / 30186.35 = 73.89% - Even Worse!
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