Cipher- The Wizard of BJ

[cipher]

Originally Posted by Westland Bowl

Nobody had asked me about what I did for a living, Cipher. So there was no need to say that I am an auditor. So what? My job had no bearing on whether you owed me the money or not. It was a non-pertinent fact to the whole matter. I haven't seen anyone speculating about what I did for a living. There's plenty of talk about what YOU did

Well, yeah, I called it my mother's money but the funds were drawn from me and my mother's joint account. She considered whatever money in the account as "ours" (me and my mother's) but I considered it mom's "care" money. There is nothing to Probate because YOU got the money, Cipher! Nursing care costs dwindled her account. Now remember, my original post? I relate how I asked you to send September 2006 disbursement because cash was getting low. We eventually had to rely on her credit cards to stay afloat while waiting (and waiting) for you to come through. But nooooo.....then my mother had to go into the hospital. But Probate or not, what the hell is the problem with not paying the whole $17,600? huh?

Unfortunately there were an awful lot people that got involved in this case with very few, if any, facts. When I made the offer that I made incident to the payment plan, nearly everyone perceived that to be a weakness rather than as a genuine offer as it was intended to be. Moreover your allying yourself with such persons as Damian Dunlap and Marcus Dalton.

Now, there are numerous actions that will be taken so as to preclude those types of individuals from acting in such a manner again.

Have a good one.

[RobWin]

Originally Posted by cipher

Unfortunately there were an awful lot people that got involved in this case with very few, if any, facts. When I made the offer that I made incident to the payment plan, nearly everyone perceived that to be a weakness rather than as a genuine offer as it was intended to be. Moreover your allying yourself with such persons as Damian Dunlap and Marcus Dalton.

Now, there are numerous actions that will be taken so as to preclude those types of individuals from acting in such a manner again.
Have a good one.

Hear is a post that you can relate to Cipher with your intellect:

Dude, you are so fucking far gone in your mind right now, you really just need to shut the fuck up !

You know you are really starting to PISS me off....

Say Bye Now !

[inthedesert]

Unfortunately there were an awful lot people that got involved in this case with very few, if any, facts. When I made the offer that I made incident to the payment plan, nearly everyone perceived that to be a weakness rather than as a genuine offer as it was intended to be. Moreover your allying yourself with such persons as Damian Dunlap and Marcus Dalton.

Now, there are numerous actions that will be taken so as to preclude those types of individuals from acting in such a manner again.

Have a good one.

Are you high? The only offer you should be making is to pay back in full. The offers you make (at least in public) aren't what I would call fair. What was the last one? I will pay you $500 a month till the balance is paid but you got 60 minutes to respond.

The fact that you continue to post and make yourself look like a fool is beyond me. You didn't pay then and now you won't pay. What does Damian have to do with the fact you can't write a check. As I said before you continue to shift your actions onto others. It's everyone else's fault but your own. Give me a break.

[Jtmoney]

Originally Posted by cipher

Unfortunately there were an awful lot people that got involved in this case with very few, if any, facts. When I made the offer that I made incident to the payment plan, nearly everyone perceived that to be a weakness rather than as a genuine offer as it was intended to be. Moreover your allying yourself with such persons as Damian Dunlap and Marcus Dalton.

Now, there are numerous actions that will be taken so as to preclude those types of individuals from acting in such a manner again.

Have a good one.

That MF is really done gone crazy

[Pinababy69]

Originally Posted by cipher

When I made the offer that I made incident to the payment plan, nearly everyone perceived that to be a weakness rather than as a genuine offer as it was intended to be.

Genuine offer? $500 twice a month for the next year and a half? You call that genuine? Cipher, what do you see when you look in the mirror? When you look into your own eyes, what do you see? I'd bet you see emptiness, nothing, a bottomless pit. That is what's inside of you if you truly believe what you are posting. If you really think you've done nothing wrong, morally bankrupt isn't even a strong enough term. It's sad, I hate shit like this, really hate it.

[mitch]

Originally Posted by cipher

The money that was "invested" with me was Westland Bowl's Mother's money.
Just in case anyone was not aware, Westland Bowl's mother unfortunately passed away not too long ago.
Finally, all of you armchair attorneys can go back to watching re-runs of Perry Mason or at the very least get a life!!!

Cipher

Cipher you are a very small man. Hardly a man at all in fact.

You are so transparent.

From the moment I first joined this Forum I had you twigged. It was obvious that not only were you a total BSer and a snakeoil salesman but that you were a very sad individual. You obviously had very big issues with self respect. It was clear to me that you had probably never achieved anything of worth in real life and in consequence needed people to recognise you as a genius in relation to gambling.

You revelled in the image of a Superman whom no casino could conquer and that is why you always reacted so aggressively when challenged. It's a pity we cannot see those times when you have lost huge amounts of money and you are curled up in your bed inwardly or outwardly weeping.

You recognise this don't you Cipher?

Why don't you post a video on your site?

You continue to try to reinforce your pathetic image with your pseudo legal language as if anyone with half a brain cannot see through it.

Well my friend, whilst you obviously know next to nothing about the law, I do and you are talking absolute bollocks in relation to WBs mother and any contract you may imagine you had with her.

I have dealt with many criminal fraudsters in my life and believe me Cipher you are very small fry, no genius at all, even at fraud.

Of course you are relying on the difficulty in proving this was a financial arrangement rather than a gambling syndicate.

Well I hope there are enough injured parties out there to give the lie to this. We will see.

Notwithstanding the outcome, you will be forever seen by the people whose approval and admiration you have sought as the sad little individual you are.

Let that fact eat away at what little self respect you ever had.

I, and no doubt the majority of posters on this Forum, will take great satisfaction at that fact.

Mitch

[winbig]

I'm just waiting for the day he pisses off the wrong person and ends up dead in some alley.

[Pinababy69]

Originally Posted by mitch

Cipher you are a very small man. Hardly a man at all in fact.

You are so transparent.

From the moment I first joined this Forum I had you twigged. It was obvious that not only were you a total BSer and a snakeoil salesman but that you were a very sad individual. You obviously had very big issues with self respect. It was clear to me that you had probably never achieved anything of worth in real life and in consequence needed people to recognise you as a genius in relation to gambling.

You revelled in the image of a Superman whom no casino could conquer and that is why you always reacted so aggressively when challenged. It's a pity we cannot see those times when you have lost huge amounts of money and you are curled up in your bed inwardly or outwardly weeping.

You recognise this don't you Cipher?

Why don't you post a video on your site?

You continue to try to reinforce your pathetic image with your pseudo legal language as if anyone with half a brain cannot see through it.

Well my friend, whilst you obviously know next to nothing about the law, I do and you are talking absolute bollocks in relation to WBs mother and any contract you may imagine you had with her.

I have dealt with many criminal fraudsters in my life and believe me Cipher you are very small fry, no genius at all, even at fraud.

Of course you are relying on the difficulty in proving this was a financial arrangement rather than a gambling syndicate.

Well I hope there are enough injured parties out there to give the lie to this. We will see.

Notwithstanding the outcome, you will be forever seen by the people whose approval and admiration you have sought as the sad little individual you are.

Let that fact eat away at what little self respect you ever had.

I, and no doubt the majority of posters on this Forum, will take great satisfaction at that fact.

Mitch

Wow Mitch, do you have him pegged. That is a great post and very insightful. Did I mention I've missed you around here?

[Westland Bowl]

Cipher, let's not being posting anymore....fighting through the forums. I said what I wanted to say, you said what you wanted to say. You obviously are not going to pay me so obviously the next step is through the courts. Let us abide what the judge(s) rule. There's no point in always ranking near the top of everyone's "New Posts" clicks. Let the online gambling world move on while we settle our dispute. Can we do that?

[onemoorebaby]

My stomach is turning reading the shit this scumbag is posting.

What a heartless cretin. It is also painfully obvious he has no spine so he is pulling out everything he can think of to turn it around.

whether you owe the money to wb or his mother it is still owed to her estate.

Its bad enough wb is grieving such a loss but to have such horrendous issues to deal with also is just NOT ON.

I have reread ciphers posts over and over and am yet to see him actually answer anyones questions.