Cipher- The Wizard of BJ

[silkprint]

But WB was asking for her money back for MONTHS before she passed away . Why didn't you just pay them back then ?

[Westland Bowl]

1) The fact (not speculation) but fact. Westland Bowl is an Auditor for the City in which he resides. and 2) Given that fact, Westland Bowl knows full well that any money that I have or may have had care and control over is by law subject to collection and distribution through the Probate Courts of the county in which Westland Bowl's mother resided.

Nobody had asked me about what I did for a living, Cipher. So there was no need to say that I am an auditor. So what? My job had no bearing on whether you owed me the money or not. It was a non-pertinent fact to the whole matter. I haven't seen anyone speculating about what I did for a living. There's plenty of talk about what YOU did

Well, yeah, I called it my mother's money but the funds were drawn from me and my mother's joint account. She considered whatever money in the account as "ours" (me and my mother's) but I considered it mom's "care" money. There is nothing to Probate because YOU got the money, Cipher! Nursing care costs dwindled her account. Now remember, my original post? I relate how I asked you to send September 2006 disbursement because cash was getting low. We eventually had to rely on her credit cards to stay afloat while waiting (and waiting) for you to come through. But nooooo.....then my mother had to go into the hospital. But Probate or not, what the hell is the problem with not paying the whole $17,600? huh?

[Pinababy69]

But WB was asking for her money back for MONTHS before she passed away . Why didn't you just pay them back then ?

I really hate to say this, and Tim, I'm sorry. But it wouldn't surprise me if Cipher was hoping she would pass on. From his post, it sounds like he was counting on it.

I wasn't kidding, I feel sick. Sick, sick, sick. He is a horrible person, the lowest of the low. So many adjectives I could use, but I'd probably just end up getting suspended for getting too personal and emotional. And as Mrracetrack pointed out in an earlier post, it would be overkill anyway. With individuals like this running around, it's no fucking wonder that society as a whole is in such piss poor shape. Gawd, I'm beyond words.

[winbig]

I really hate to say this, and Tim, I'm sorry. But it wouldn't surprise me if Cipher was hoping she would pass on. From his post, it sounds like he was counting on it.

I wasn't kidding, I feel sick. Sick, sick, sick. He is a horrible person, the lowest of the low. So many adjectives I could use, but I'd probably just end up getting suspended for getting too personal and emotional. And as Mrracetrack pointed out in an earlier post, it would be overkill anyway. With individuals like this running around, it's no fucking wonder that society as a whole is in such piss poor shape. Gawd, I'm beyond words.

If WB can prove that Cipher checked into what would happen if their mother passed while he still owed the money, then he would definitely have a strong case of fraud against cipher.

[lnspin]

Cipher , this problem could have easily been solved by just paying the guy,

I mean if i was you i would be worried , you might get a nut that invested in you and who know what can happen,

We have all heard crazy stories on the news over $1 , i can imagine in the thousands.

You guys should call that guy on channel 7 or 11 . Help me Howard have his pic all overthenews

[lnspin]

And no matter what , he still owes the $$ to her estate .

[inthedesert]

It's just more and more excuses with you. Why don't you be honest? You don't have the money, and you lost it. I don't expect that from you because then it would prove what people already know, your bj system doesn't work. You would be out of business.

Your "probate" statement is a load of crap. Tim was asking for his money back in September, and you stalled for months before the death of his mother. Why didn't you pay him then? Your looking for any excuse you can to avoid being responsible for your actions. It's everyone else's fault but your own.

What respect I had for you in the online world Cipher has been lost. Your low. In time I am sure the law and media will catch up with this, and you.

(my heart goes out to you WB on your loss - this is some BS I know you don't need in your life with your mothers passing)

Finally, all of you armchair attorneys can go back to watching re-runs of Perry Mason or at the very least get a life!!!

The reality is we see through you and it pisses you off. I bet your very very busy hanging out on all these boards trying to keep up. I wouldn't worry you will probably have some great attorneys defending you, seeing your making soooo much on your system.

[winbig]

If anyone's interested, here's TV/Newspaper links for Visalia, CA

http://www.kmph.com/

http://www.visaliatimesdelta.com/app....dll/frontpage

http://www.topix.net/city/visalia-ca

[Stanford]

After you having said that, I sure hope you can watch your back. You just took it to a whole new personal level with WB by trying to make this new claim. You're the one that needs to get a life and actually take responsibility for what you have done.

All you're doing is grasping for straws here, looking for any excuse not to pay the man his money. Why don't you just crawl back under the rock you came from?

Actually, that is exactly right.

Bryan, Cipher is spreading a lot of personal information about Westland Bowl that might cause him additional harm. It really is insult to injury.

Is there a point when Cipher just doesn't post here? Is there a way that business about WB's job and so forth could be deleted?

I see no point to more pain.

imho,
Stanford.

[Pinababy69]

I'm so glad that I believe in karma, and that eventually everything in the universe balances itself out. If I didn't, I'd truly be pulling my hair out right now. The smugness that just oozes out of every one of his posts. All that's missing is a picture of him sticking out his tongue, saying "na na na na na na". Or maybe holding a sign saying "Fuck You, I got your money, whatcha gonna do about it"?

I strongly suggest you see a psychiatrist or mental health professional Cipher. If you have any hope of salvaging what's left of your soul....whatever part you haven't sold to the devil already. Did I mention I feel sick?