Cipher- The Wizard of BJ

**tencardcharlie** · 28th January 2007, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by cipher

Right now it's Does (1-100) but that can always be increased.

What on earth does this mean? Can anyone de-cipher

**Pinababy69** · 28th January 2007, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by cipher

QUOTE: "I'd want to see the original documents from WB prior to that." That might be a bad idea.

Cipher

Why would it be a bad idea Cipher? While I believe that WB has told the truth, any person in their right mind would want to see original and undoctored documentation prior to sticking their own neck out.

What could there possibly be that would make me think that what you have done is okay? Or looking at it from another angle...that WB is not 100% totally within his rights to demand his money back. There is only one possibility that pops into my mind...and that would be if WB sent you money with full and complete knowledge that you were going to be using that money to defraud other people. Again, with his knowledge. In a case like that, then you would both be guilty as hell. And while it wouldn't change my view on what you've done, it would certainly make me look at WB in a new light, and not a favourable one.

Cipher, stop skirting the issue...if there is something that you think we should know (that we don't already), then spit it out.

The money itself isn't in dispute, nor the amount owing ($17,600). So the only issue left that is in any way debatable is the purpose of the original investment. Again, if you have something to add...we're waiting.

**tencardcharlie** · 28th January 2007, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by cipher

Big red letters

Legal BS doesn't get any better by adding size and colour to it. Besides, I will sue you if I damage my eyes by reading these posts.

**Simmo!** · 28th January 2007, 07:52 PM

General Note: Irrespective of your "side" on this issue, and I appreciate this is an emotional topic, please keep to adult debate. You can get your point over without the need to regress in doing so

Cheers

Simmo!

Footnote: Meister has been over here in london this past week.

**Pinababy69** · 28th January 2007, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by Simmo!

General Note: Irrespective of your "side" on this issue, and I appreciate this is an emotional topic, please keep to adult debate. You can get your point over without the need to regress in doing so

Cheers

Simmo!

Agreed Simmo. It's hard for me though, I think I'm still 16, lol.

**Stanford** · 28th January 2007, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by Simmo!

General Note: Irrespective of your "side" on this issue, and I appreciate this is an emotional topic, please keep to adult debate. You can get your point over without the need to regress in doing so

Cheers

Simmo!

Footnote: Meister has been over here in london this past week.

Hi Simmo,

Not taking offense, but how do you call a crook a crook in a civil manner? :-)

There is only one side - the guy got scammed. The other side is a guy scammed him. If Cipher was a casino he would be in the rogue hall of fame.

Stanford.

**Stanford** · 28th January 2007, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by lnspin

Cipher why dont you just save everyone a headache and jump off of your roof

I wouldn't suggest that. If this guy is a compulsive gambler and I suspect that is at the root of all this, then he might just do it. Remember that guy that shot himself at the blackjack table in Detroit. "Your just killing me" he said to the dealer and then blew himself away.

Cipher is a low life - but with help he may be worthwhile some day. I don't want him to kill himself. I just want him to make amends. That's the start to healing.

Stanford

**Simmo!** · 28th January 2007, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by Stanford

Hi Simmo,

Not taking offense, but how do you call a crook a crook in a civil manner? :-)

"you Frist" ?

Nah - I hear what you are saying but some of you guys are good at it, some less so

**jerrylee** · 28th January 2007, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by cipher

NOTICE: It has come to my attention that one DAMIAN DUNLAP has (on the behalf of one TIM BELL) chosen to post a video on his site (http://www.playerunion.com) with regards issues to a dispute between CIPHER and TIM BELL.

I actually signed up to PU to watch this video...here's the link for everyone's amusement
http://www.dailymotion.com/freakyway...yw5_crook20001

edit...especially in the end that's too much ha ha

**Slotster!** · 28th January 2007, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by jerrylee

I actually signed up to PU to watch this video...here's the link for everyone's amusement
http://www.dailymotion.com/freakyway...yw5_crook20001

I caught the Slotchik/Casinomeister one and nearly wet myself! The guy is hilarious... I love the gangsta-style words and language, interspersed with quite mundane points - in the nice neat office. It's like a cross between fiddy cent and David Brent (Michael Scott for American audiences).

I have no opinion on what these people are doing/trying to do or any of that nonsense and best of luck to them - but to the casual observer - it's hilarious!

As for Cipher... The usual smoke and mirrors, the usual BS - and the usual skirting round the issue... Well and truly outed - game over.