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Old 30th January 2004, 07:36 PM
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RTG's Caribbean 21 lie

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Editor's Note: This one is a classic and is fodder for a cliff-hanging indie-film. Here we have the "Pirate" who won over a million dollars playing RTG's Caribbean 21. The casino operator tricked the player into admitting that he used software to beat the game, but under scruinty, the operator was lying. After the operator posted on how the software detects mouse movements on players' computers, RTG stepped in and called his bluff.

The operator was removed and his properties sold to another casino group.

MSNBC covered this one, and the player was paid an undisclosed amount by RTG which settled the case.

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It is with great regret that I write today. I am the player who won over a million playing RTG's Caribbean 21. I have now been told I used a robot player or non approved software. So every body be fore warned that RTG will accuse you of cheating, lock you out of your accounts, and ultimately void your winnings if you win big. I have remained quiet while all of this has been going on and I have gotten screwed for it. DO NOT GO TO THE HAMPTON OR ANY ORHER RTG CASINO AS THEY WILL NOT PAY IF YOU WIN BIG AND THEY WILL SIMPLY SAY YOU USED A ROBOT PLAYER TO GET OUT OF IT.

I DID NOT USE ANY NON APPROVED SOFTWARE. I played only thru their user interface.

SO AGAIN I TELL ALL THAT I WON OVER 1.3 MILLION FAIR AND SQUARE AND THEY HAVE CHEATED ME OUT OF IT. sO PLAY AT AN RTG CASINO AND YOU WILL BE RIPPED OFF IF YOU WIN BIG. YOU WILL ALSO HAVE ANY OTHER RTG ACCOUNTS LOCKED UP.

RTG is currently blocking accounts of mine that have balances in them so THEY WILL ALSO STEAL FROM YOU IN KEEPING OTHER MONIES YOU MAY HAVE AT OTHER RTG CASINOS AS THEY HAVE DONE WITH ME.

sO NOT ONLY DID THEY STEAL MY WINNINGS THEY ALSO TOOK MONEY FROM OTHER ACCOUNTS.

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Old 30th January 2004, 07:45 PM
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I also forgot to mention that I have a large amount of winnings at another RTG casino. I am expecting that they will void that to.

SO ONCE AGAIN RTG AND IT'S CASINOS WILL NOT PAY YOU IF YOU WIN BIG. THEY WILL LOCK YOU OUT OF YOU ACCOUNTS AND WHATEVER BALANCES YOU MIGHT HAVE IN THEM.

SO IF YOU WANT TO BE CHEATED PLAY AT AN RTG CASINO LIKE HAMPTON. THEY WILL PAY THE NICKEL AND THEN STEAL THE DOLLAR.
Old 30th January 2004, 11:25 PM
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Pirate, my darling:

You do know that Realtime Gaming is located in Atlanta, Georgia, USA. Second, you do know that they supply the same software to the publically traded AngelCiti Entertainment Inc., which reports to the US SEC?

Could be a really interesting court case, oh, yes. PM me.

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I also forgot to mention that I have a large amount of winnings at another RTG casino. I am expecting that they will void that to.

SO ONCE AGAIN RTG AND IT'S CASINOS WILL NOT PAY YOU IF YOU WIN BIG. THEY WILL LOCK YOU OUT OF YOU ACCOUNTS AND WHATEVER BALANCES YOU MIGHT HAVE IN THEM.

SO IF YOU WANT TO BE CHEATED PLAY AT AN RTG CASINO LIKE HAMPTON. THEY WILL PAY THE NICKEL AND THEN STEAL THE DOLLAR.
Old 31st January 2004, 01:41 AM
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A robot player is something that clicks away while you do something else, like the Microgaming "autoplay" function. It can't tamper with any aspect of the actual card-dealing. So what does this have to do with anything?

Given that Pirate was apparently betting $10,000 a hand, 1.3 mill represents a grand total of 130 winning bets. LOL, I've had a lot better results than that on occasions with RTG. This is no big deal whatsoever in terms of units won. There is no case here. The casino approved a betting level that they could not POSSIBLY sustain, hoping he'd lose. He didn't. Tough titty.
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Pirateofc21, have you pitched a bitch with casino meister?
As for the odds of winning so much, I find it very difficult to believe. From the other thread you mentioned that you only deposited 1k and turned it to 1.3 million. Even if they don't have any table limit at all and their game has no house edge, the odds of winning so much is less than 1 in 1300. Their table limit started with only a few hundreds, you were able to turn your bank roll into 10k+ then keep winning until you have 1.3 million. The odds would be slim to none.
I think you should ask them for playlog and use it as an evidence. Without it, it might be very difficult to convice portal owners that you won it fair and square.
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[QUOTE=Pirateofc21I have now been told I used a robot player or non approved software. [/QUOTE]


Why am I not surprised?

I'm so sorry this happened to you, Pirate. I hope you get your money.

But if they can't pay people like me who only won around $5000, how in the world are they going to pay you?

Old 31st January 2004, 02:51 PM
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No one is safe playing this software IMO.

Sorry for your troubles pirateofc21 but 1.2 million dollars is enough to take this all the way to the gambling press and then on to the broadsheets. That said if you are pulling a 1.2 million dollar gambling scam thats gonna get just as much coverage, probaly more.

Over at Gambling911 Sting reckons the 138k win at Intertops that the firm called thier 100k max payout on was apparently the talk of the floors at Ice among the executives.
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Old 31st January 2004, 03:23 PM
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rtg thieves

Yes I have pitched a bitch. Bryan hasn't answered me. He isn't interested in the truth. He met with them and he is taking their side. I don't klnow what to say I thought Bryan would be helpful but he doesn't even return my e-mails. Also RTG has locked several of my accounts that have balances. To me this is outright stealing. I will send another bitch but it looks like Bryan is in it with them as he won't even answer me now.
He has it listed that he is a player advocate but he won't help. Like I said he just believes them. I am shocked that he would simply accept this but it looks like they are all the same.

Bryan why won't you answer me now? Did they pay you? They are getting away with outright stealing. How can you stand by and let this happen.
What about my balance at Delano's . Do they get to steal that to!!

Talk to me Bryan.
Old 31st January 2004, 03:40 PM
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not likely

hhcfreebie, as unlikely as it seems ask youself why would they pull the game out of service? Also I started with table limits of 10 and 1000, not a few hundred. They pulled the game because I won. Why haven't the locks on my other RTG accounts been released.

Bryan, how can you be so easily swayed?
I DIDN'T USE ANY SOFTWARE OR DEVICE OR SYSTEM. i SIMPLY PLAYED AND WON.

AS I SAID EARLIER THEY HAVE LOCKS ON MY ACOUNTS WITH BALANCES IN THEM. I CANNOT WITHDRAW MY MONEY. THESE ACCOUNTS HAVE NOTHING TO DO ANYTHING. wHY ARE THEY ENTITLED TO THAT MONEY TO. C'mon Bryan they can't get away with this. You've got to help.
If RTG is not held accountable for this and allowed to keep my money this opens the door for any one to cheat players. All you have to do is say OH a robot player was used so we don't have to pay.
Old 31st January 2004, 03:49 PM
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Finally I have asked several times for my game logs but they won't release them. The manager at Hampton offered to sell them to me if I was willing to pay.

This is crazy. I did not use a robot player. C'mon Bryan help me fight this. This is only going hurt the industry as other vendors and such will see that if they simply come up with an excuse they won't have to pay.
Where is the accountability! Bryan help me fight for the truth.
 

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