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Old 23rd October 2007, 02:14 AM
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Thanks for posting that, bb28, although there are some errors. The buy-in was $1000, I think? And that KK v AA thing is wrong, as far as I know. In places it reads a bit like somebody more from the sportsbook side trying to cover poker as well. But the more exposure the story is getting the better, as far as I can see.
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Think about this, whoever did this, had to have access to the gaming
servers
, in order to read the hole cards of the other players.

Who in a company would have such access?
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http://www.point-spreads.com/poker/1...7-million.html

This article claims AP has used this account for years and stole $7,000,000. Several high limit players have disputed the report.
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Scott Tom may also go by the name of Scott Beckley as he was primarily raised by his mother from ages 2-15 in Montana while his father lived in Washington. He lived breifly with his father for one year where his father allegedly failed to pay for a medical expense, at which point he returned to live with his mother in Montana.

Cause No. 79964, Fourth Judicial District Court of Montana, Missoula County 1996.

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As I said, they are 'stepbrothers' (rumored......of course)
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HOW LONG HAS THE ABSOLUTE POKER SCAM BEEN OPERATING?

Sources claim cheating has been happening for 3 years, earning the culprits millions

The gambling information portal Point-Spread.com made further serious revelations in the Absolute Poker scandal Monday, claiming that unidentified sources have revealed a greater web of deceit than just one tournament.

Webmaster Tommy Jensen quotes sources in Costa Rica who say that the cheating scam has been ongoing for the past three years and the actual amount that was skimmed from online poker players could be as much as $7 million. The actual amount is still unknown as an internal audit is underway, and high-limit players on other portals have contested this claim.

Jensen says a former employee of Absolute Poker confirmed to Point-Spreads.com that the security department at AP suspected something years ago but were told it was just the owners testing out the system and to forget about it. AJ Green (see previous InfoPowa reports) is alleged to have been involved in the scam and employees of Absolute Poker are prepared to implicate him.

Meanwhile, the 911 portal continued to publish what appear to be damage control reports from its sources, who claim that Absolute Poker takes in between $1.5 million and $2 million a day in gross revenues. "Absolute Poker will survive this (scandal)," the unnamed source predicted. "There are about a hundred investors in the company to ensure this happens."

911 reports that, contrary to reports that a band of college fraternity brothers started Absolute Poker in 2003, it was in fact founded by a Las Vegas-resident college grad named Scott Tom with financing from his father. Tom subsequently brought other college friends into the business. Tom, who has since dropped out of sight, is believed to have resided in Panama City and Costa Rica.

"They (AJ Green and Scott Tom) are not talking to investors," the source told 911. "But Absolute Poker does not need Scott Tom. There is a strong management team in place with hundreds of employees." Other investors in the poker site include former employees of the Nine.com operation which now belongs to VIP.com.
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HOW LONG HAS THE ABSOLUTE POKER SCAM BEEN OPERATING?
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That was exactly my question after looking over the evidence and reading the Wizard's report. How long has this been going on?

Yeah sure it was a blatant in-your-face cheat as if the guy wanted to get caught. But adding fuel to the fire, this could have been going on for years by the same person(s) making more subtle plays.

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Still curious what Kahnawake has to say. Their license needs to be yanked and they should be allowed to slink back to Costa Rica where they can go back to "business as usual"
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Maybe Khanawake won't do anything? Not unless backed into a corner like AP
was, then they'll announce something in hopes it'll satify people.


The AP top guys put huge bridges between themselves and the
ownership/operation of AP, going so far as to use Khanawake to hide things
(Tokwiro enterprises) <---> Joe Tokwiro Norton

Of course, the above are just my thoughts.
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What about Ultimate?

Don't Absolute own Ultimate Bet, or have I got that wrong? What implications would this have for Ultimate? I think I read that the software is different : big deal. They've been in charge there for long enough for Ultimate to need a full audit too, surely?
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Questioning the future

Surely no matter what anyone says that this is going not only to bring down AP but the whole online poker industry or at the very least take it back a few years.I do not doubt for one second this is the tip of the iceberg and all you have to think is that smaller sites with fewer players could easily be up to this if it is so simple.This of course may not be the case but try selling that to the theorists.It has actually even today made the news in the UK which os not good news as far as i can see.Every time you go sit at a table and suffer a shocking beat by a guy who had no right playing crazy cards then you will auto think ahh this aint right.Sadly as i said online poker may never full yrecover form this which is a shame.
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UK television news, or radio, or newspaper, please? And which channel or paper? I'd be interested to see what they are saying.
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