Jeeze..More Spam

[lojo]

Originally Posted by lauriejim

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From: Lisa Kimberland (news@slots-roulette.com)
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Sent: Mon 1/07/08 3:46 PM
Reply-to: reply@slots-roulette.com
To: @hotmail.com[/email] ................this is the 16th ive gotten from her today ill have that many again tomorrow........laurie

Not the only spam coming from them, I've been landing on this spammer for a while now:

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15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: SLOTS-ROULETTE.COM
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DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
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Domains by Proxy, Inc.
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15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2599

[inthedesert]

Originally Posted by vinylweatherman

Now this is most interesting. This is what got Fortune Lounge rogued in the past. This looks like they have passed on your CONFIDENTIAL contact details to an affiliate, who is now trying to get you to play at the other casinos in the group. Since the disks go to your POSTAL address, it is Fortune Lounge themselves that are responsible for leaking your details, it is impossible for spammers to somehow guess your postal address as well as generating random Email addresses, which is the "official explanation" you will probably get if you complain.

My father has one account he used only with FL and he is also getting spam from various (no name) casinos now. This isn't something random because he only used that email address for FL, and he noted it on paper.

Even if FL removed you from the list they have the damage has been done. Now, his email address has been passed on to various spammers and there is nothing to be done about that.

This is a serious issue (again) that needs to be dealt with. What information is being passed on to third parties, and to what extent.

[vinylweatherman]

Originally Posted by inthedesert

My father has one account he used only with FL and he is also getting spam from various (no name) casinos now. This isn't something random because he only used that email address for FL, and he noted it on paper.

Even if FL removed you from the list they have the damage has been done. Now, his email address has been passed on to various spammers and there is nothing to be done about that.

This is a serious issue (again) that needs to be dealt with. What information is being passed on to third parties, and to what extent.

Casinos always state they never do this, however they cannot be believed, as the patterns of spamming are suggesting that it is mostly Email addresses that have previously been registered at an online casino are being targeted.
If this was unrelated to leaked personal details, casino related spam would behave in the same manner as other spam, such as falling in equal proportion into all mature Email addresses.

Other than to hit back hard at the companies paying the spammers, there is little else players can do. In the case of casinos, the spammers are DIRECTLY rewarded by their affiliate payments. It is the reluctance of some casinos to deny these payments that fuels the ever increasing tide of spam. There also seems nothing to stop spamming affiliates simply from opening another affiliate account when they get shut down. This is in stark contrast to the multilayered security measures seemingly in place to prevent PLAYERS from opening multiple accounts if they get a name for themselves as an "advantage player".
Players have to send in ID details and jump through hoops to get paid, the details supplied by affiliates are accepted at face value, and no active monitoring of their activity takes place. Only when there are a large number of very public complaints exposing the lack of action do casinos seem to take half hearted measures to shut down the spammers, such as "talking to them".

[RobWin]

Anyone ever seen this one. I know I don't have no account there, but according to their email they think I do. Looks like just more spam to me.....

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[vinylweatherman]

SPAM

A genuine mailer to encourage a player to reopen a dormant account will address them by name, and give them a reminder of their account login number (not password, but this could be reset on request).

Spammers try to trick the receiver into thinking this is a genuine account they once had, but had completely forgotten about. Invariably, the "come back offer" will be exactly the same as the new player offer.

If this is a rogue casino (is it RTG?), they are likely to be sending out their own spam, hoping to fool people. When these people contact support to get a reminder of their long lost details, they will be told to just open a new account, because the old one has been wiped from the system. Thus they have tricked another unsuspecting punter into opening a new account.