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    Rival Security Documents request-does anyone know why..

    Why do we have to provide a new set of security documents with each Rival casino? Isn't the back end security operations that determines fraud and player ratings, the same back end that reviews the security documents for each of the Rival casinos? I was asked a couple of weeks ago to provide this data for Fortune Reel, when i had provided a couple weeks prior to another Rival. I am tired of sending my data multiple times, and I am sure for those who don't have access to a scanner--or saved documents, it can be costly.

    I have asked this question of customer service, without a response. Perhaps a rival rep can answer my aforementioned question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcpam39 View Post
    Why do we have to provide a new set of security documents with each Rival casino? Isn't the back end security operations that determines fraud and player ratings, the same back end that reviews the security documents for each of the Rival casinos? I was asked a couple of weeks ago to provide this data for Fortune Reel, when i had provided a couple weeks prior to another Rival. I am tired of sending my data multiple times, and I am sure for those who don't have access to a scanner--or saved documents, it can be costly.

    I have asked this question of customer service, without a response. Perhaps a rival rep can answer my aforementioned question.

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    Perhaps it is to perpetuate the "myth" that there really is no "big brother" central database, and that each Rival casino is a separate entity

    Come on Rival, give it up

    We players on here all know this "big brother" database is FACT, so you can give up the pretence that there is any need to supply separate sets of documents for each *ahem* "independent" Rival casino.

    Apart from the inconvenience, it is an UNNECESSARY additional risk, why send sensitive data MULTIPLE times, when it only needs to be sent ONCE. 50x a small risk (data going astray) becomes a MUCH BIGGER risk. Given the extraodinary incompetence demonstrated time and time again by the centralised support operation they should be looking to MINIMISE risk, not MAXIMISING it!
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    They ask for these things time and time again because, as they always seem to quote
    It is for the players protection
    not quite sure what protection they are on about as VWM says the risk factor surely goes up when sending them multiple times.
    just sounds like stalling to me
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    Wonder why no one from Rival has responded. They should have no problem explaining their security philosophy and practices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zebedy View Post
    They ask for these things time and time again because, as they always seem to quote


    not quite sure what protection they are on about as VWM says the risk factor surely goes up when sending them multiple times.
    just sounds like stalling to me
    Spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinylweatherman View Post
    Perhaps it is to perpetuate the "myth" that there really is no "big brother" central database, and that each Rival casino is a separate entity

    Come on Rival, give it up

    We players on here all know this "big brother" database is FACT, so you can give up the pretence that there is any need to supply separate sets of documents for each *ahem* "independent" Rival casino.

    Apart from the inconvenience, it is an UNNECESSARY additional risk, why send sensitive data MULTIPLE times, when it only needs to be sent ONCE. 50x a small risk (data going astray) becomes a MUCH BIGGER risk. Given the extraodinary incompetence demonstrated time and time again by the centralised support operation they should be looking to MINIMISE risk, not MAXIMISING it!
    Not to detour the thread, but a similar situation is happening at all Club World Casinos, too. Every time I sign up at one, they want the same docs I just sent to them for another of their casinos. I sign up with the same user name, same address, same email, but they still want docs. This is bordering on ridiculous.

    Rival casinos are the worst as they wait until you cash out... and if you don't hassle them about what's holding up the WD, they will wait days and days before sending the 'oh, didn't you know? we need ID docs'. Then a few more days for 'processing and approval', then the obligatory 5 business days before they press the button and send your money to your ewallet.

    So there's my financial and personal information flowing to and fro on the internet (unencrypted) for any Tom, Dick or Harry to sniff. Not counting the number of casino employees who have access to said info.....
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    Might be a good business for someone to get into. A central database, where once your verified your given a code number and it can be used at any online casino so documents will not have to be sent every single time.

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