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    ROME Casino - Top Game Support disaster

    I've been ripped off by casinos only 4 times in my life - out of hundreds and hundreds of sessions at god knows how many casinos (hundreds of casinos and poker rooms with only 4 rip-offs is pretty impressive for the online gaming industry imo).

    Golden Palace came good and paid all winnings after a few months. Cirrus completely flat out stole my winnings, changing the T&C AFTER I'd requested withdrawal to exclude my first world (lol) country from being eligible to play. InterCasino (I'll get all your opinions on it later) really screwed up bad (I know this will surprise some of you as they have a really good rep).

    And ROME CASINO yesterday was the 4th. Holy crap - I haven't quite yet seen such obscure, unprofessional and illogical behaviour from a casino manager on chat. I have screenshots, emailed chat transcripts, the works.

    Will post the whole mess if anyone is interested, but the core story is:
    - after seeing them on (casino.xxxxx.com - a big review site, don't want to give impression of spamming as I have nothing to do with casino.xxxxx.com), I was looking to see if Rome had VIP Blackjack or Jacks or Better 50 Line. Whilst I'm playing around with Play Money version, a CS type offers me a large bonus. Tells me if I deposit 5k, they'll give me 10k to play with. I say I have no interest in playing Slots but thanks all the same. He comes back saying I can play Video Poker at 12x deposit / bonus wagering requirement. This *almost* makes the whole thing close to even, which for me is generally a good % better HA than I can manage - and, as you can tell by the InterCasino gambling I did below (1.5 weeks worth), I'm not exactly an "advantage player" lol.



    I agree on the deal and am promised as soon as I deposit 5k, they'll credit me with 10k (fully cashable) and I could start gambling straight away.

    I send though credit card payment of 3k before their system blocks me. Asking what's wrong, the manager told me I've deposited "too much" and "too quickly" and that it's suspicious. I laugh at the 3k being a flag-trigger and refer him to my wagering at InterCasino (in image above). Also, please note this is the manager who minutes before TOLD me to deposit 5k - now he's saying I've deposited 3k and it's just too suspicious. Hilarious.

    He apologises and asks for ID's, utility, scan of CC etc. I tell him we should worry about all that if I ever need to do a cashout. He insists I HAVE to send him the scans right then. I go through a world of pain to get these for him and they receive them. The manager has said (about 5 times by now) to start playing, start playing - I tell him I'll play when his behaviour stops being weird AND not before he credits the bonus as per our deal.

    They call me a few times and are VERY weird on the phone (almost abusive at one point telling me to "JUST PLAY ALREADY" or something like that) so I demand they talk in chat. In chat they say security department is unhappy with my "large deposit" and my security docs. And that I should just play whilst they sort it out. I've had enough at this stage and request a withdrawal (I haven't played a hand yet).

    I'm told I cannot withdraw. And that the Security department will need a day or two to 'analyse' my (very high resolution scans). I say "no problem, you wanna renege on a deal, just cash me out please". He tells me to go to the right Cashier area and then laughs in chat when I see "YOU CAN NOT WITHDRAW AT THIS TIME".

    I tell him I'm going to charge back the credit card if he doesn't let me withdraw, and that WILL annoy my bank, MAY annoy their CC processing company, and will certainly annoy him when their CC processor raises costs.

    At this stage, the MANAGER (casino Manager) goes weird. Starts telling me how much he "loves me" in chat, calling me "dear" over and over, saying how much we would have fun together - stuff like that.

    I've called up my bank to charge back the cards (which will be easy considering I have 8 years of huge CC turnover but not one single charge back till now. I'm then sent a letter from Rome security saying my ID's are all in order.

    I try to login to my account. I'm locked out completely. $3000 is not exactly "lose sleep at night" situation for me, but the weirdness of their actions and the behaviour of their drunk manager saying $3000 was the largest deposit they've dealt with (seriously? omg), then abusing me in chat and then locking my account with no notice and refusal to answer all emails should send them directly to ROGUE I think.

    Anyone for some VERY large chat transcripts or screenshots? Some stuff in there from their management (almost certain he was drunk) which you will NOT have seen before in ANY chat, I'm sure of it - it's almost hilariously weird.

    I recommend instant Rogue for Rome Casino.

    (Edit: Oh, and now I see a bunch of other Rome is Rogue threads. Well, lol @ me then heheh...)
    Last edited by JHV; 11th June 2009 at 02:57 AM. Reason: Edit: More proof I am retarded. Rome is Rogue threads abound....

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    wow.....that's crazy...

    At this stage, the MANAGER (casino Manager) goes weird. Starts telling me how much he "loves me" in chat, calling me "dear" over and over, saying how much we would have fun together - stuff like that.
    Do you have the chat transcripts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by winbig View Post
    wow.....that's crazy...



    Do you have the chat transcripts?
    Yes. They are very long though. Should I post them here in entirety?

    I know it's crazy. Seriously, this guy was drunk or something. It was the most obscure CS conversation I've ever had - and he's the manager of Rome (or so he claimed).

    His name was OG - but then he referred to a Mark at one point (not sure if Mark was his OG's boss or if Mark was something to do with Security).

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    LOL, I think that's one of the best stories I've heard all year Scooter! Welcome to the forum. Post those chat transcripts if you can.

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    Welcome Scooter

    What a strange story, kinda goes along with with some other stories I have heard about Rome Casino.

    Please do post the chat transcripts.

    I believe "Mark" is the Manager...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobWin View Post
    LOL, I think that's one of the best stories I've heard all year Scooter! Welcome to the forum. Post those chat transcripts if you can.
    [When I tried to post: "You have included 69 images in your message. You are limited to using 10 images so please go back and correct the problem and then continue again. Images include use of smilies..." - these are the 60 similies that drunk moron OG below used in chat - I'll have to delete them all - will replace each with an x]

    Ok, it's a bit of a mess because, despite promising early that I could save chat transcripts, which turned out to be a boldfaced lie - they had to email me the transcript.

    They're really long so I'll BOLD what I think are the pertinent or amusing bits. I promise not to leave out a pertinent bit from the BOLDING Process intentionally.

    As luck would have it, the Rome Casino head manager just called me before to apologise and said he fired the manager called "OG" for his behaviour and also said a bunch of other stuff, so I'll add notes where he said I was lied to by his staff.

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    08/06/09 22:29:58 Michael Scooter69 Hello! I would like to offer you a really nice match up bonus on your first deposit! Extra bonus on top of the standard first deposit bonus! What do you say?

    08/06/09 22:30:08 Scooter69 Michael is this a real person?

    08/06/09 22:30:21 Michael Scooter69 eemmm yeah?

    08/06/09 22:30:32 Scooter69 Michael on 888 casino it wasn't lol

    08/06/09 22:30:36 Scooter69 Michael what's the bonus offer

    08/06/09 22:30:38 Scooter69 Michael i'm a high roller

    08/06/09 22:30:44 Michael Scooter69 lolz

    08/06/09 22:30:46 Michael Scooter69 How much would you be willing to deposit? let me see what is the BEST I can get you

    08/06/09 22:30:57 Scooter69 Michael never seen this software so was checking it out

    08/06/09 22:31:08 Scooter69 Michael death to intercasino - lost 100,000 there last week

    08/06/09 22:31:09 Michael Scooter69 glad to hear! I hope you like our casino (x)

    08/06/09 22:31:16 Michael Scooter69 wooooooooh

    08/06/09 22:31:18 Michael Scooter69 not glad to hear

    08/06/09 22:31:21 Michael Scooter69 (x)

    08/06/09 22:31:21 Scooter69 Michael what's the max bonus you can give?

    08/06/09 22:31:37 Scooter69 Michael well they had $1250 spin 50 Line video poker lol

    08/06/09 22:31:40 Michael Scooter69 it really depends on how much you wanna deposit... throw me a number

    08/06/09 22:31:44 Scooter69 Michael my 100,000 lasted oh about 8 hrs

    08/06/09 22:31:45 Michael Scooter69 wow

    08/06/09 22:31:52 Michael Scooter69 lolz shooosh

    08/06/09 22:31:56 Scooter69 Michael whatever i deposit you'll match 100%?

    08/06/09 22:32:08 Michael Scooter69 correct.. BUT

    08/06/09 22:32:17 Michael Scooter69 it really depends.. maybe we can get you even more

    08/06/09 22:32:35 Scooter69 Michael i don't really know man - just whatever

    08/06/09 22:32:40 Scooter69 Michael let's say 5k deposit

    08/06/09 22:32:47 Scooter69 Michael ACTUALLY

    08/06/09 22:32:56 Scooter69 Michael do you have a way for me to bet more than $25 spin?


    08/06/09 22:32:56 Michael Scooter69 woooooow.. let me check with me manager eh?


    (Scooter Note: Mark said Michael never checked with him and that he didn't authorise the bonus offer I receive below, and that his staff weren't even allowed to offer bonuses this big. Whether I believe Mark or not about this is 50/50 - either way, if his staff are offering huge bonuses without his authorisation or knowledge, it reflects very poorly on Mark's competence as a manager, in my opinion.)



    08/06/09 22:33:07 Michael Scooter69 on what exactly?

    08/06/09 22:33:10 Scooter69 Michael on this practise game it seems $25 is max - obv that's no good

    08/06/09 22:33:12 Scooter69 Michael video poker


    08/06/09 22:34:12 Scooter69 Michael hmmm panama?

    08/06/09 22:34:13 Michael Scooter69 I believe we do have a way.. also have to check with my manager... do you have a phone we can call you? is it ok if we call you? im sure my promo manager would love to talk to ya.. what do you say?

    08/06/09 22:34:20 Michael Scooter69 panama? we are in Costa Rica (x)

    08/06/09 22:34:40 Scooter69 Michael panama makes me nervous - why aren't you guys licensed by like kahnawake? - the ones all the other guys are

    08/06/09 22:35:04 Scooter69 Michael sorry i've had winnings not paid before - i don't mean to be rude

    08/06/09 22:35:16 Scooter69 Michael and the casino was licensed in panama i think

    08/06/09 22:35:21 Michael Scooter69 no I totally understand man...

    08/06/09 22:35:41 Michael Scooter69 is it ok if we call you? (x)

    08/06/09 22:36:17 Scooter69 Michael yes - but i'd rather not - i have a headache and there's construction outside my window makes it hard to talk on phone

    08/06/09 22:36:55 Michael Scooter69 ok no problem.. ok, we will get you 10k bonus if you make your deposit, good? no good?

    08/06/09 22:37:32 Scooter69 Michael 5k deposit 10k bonus?

    08/06/09 22:37:40 Michael Scooter69 we are licenced in Panama by the way.. lolz

    08/06/09 22:37:51 Michael Scooter69 sorry im new here, was giving a quick check (x)

    08/06/09 22:38:01 Michael Scooter69 yup 5k....10k bonus.. is that good?

    08/06/09 22:38:05 Scooter69 Michael sounds good - yes that's my only concern - and only cause the casino that didn't pay me was licensed in panama once

    08/06/09 22:38:17 Scooter69 Michael i can play video poker with it?

    08/06/09 22:38:28 Michael Scooter69 ohhh .. yeah! you can play any game with the bonus money


    08/06/09 22:38:51 Scooter69 Michael so i play for 30 hours say

    08/06/09 22:38:57 Michael Scooter69 but you have to wager it, convert it only on slots...

    08/06/09 22:39:04 Michael Scooter69 all the bonuses are cashable


    08/06/09 22:39:11 Scooter69 Michael so it's a slots bonus

    08/06/09 22:39:17 Michael Scooter69 30 hours?? wow

    08/06/09 22:39:21 Scooter69 Michael i only play video poker

    08/06/09 22:39:23 Michael Scooter69 let me double check, hold pls

    08/06/09 22:39:28 Scooter69 Michael and some blackjack but i suck at blackjack


    08/06/09 22:39:48 Scooter69 Michael i did $8,000,000 in wagering at InterCasino - i looked at the logs - in one week lol

    08/06/09 22:39:58 Scooter69 Michael dirty bastards took me for a fortune

    08/06/09 22:40:42 Michael Scooter69 yes you can convert your bonus with video poker as well

    08/06/09 22:40:51 Michael Scooter69 woooow man

    08/06/09 22:41:47 Scooter69 Michael k can you email me all the stuff to my email so that there is no confusion down the track? or can i save this chat history?

    08/06/09 22:42:03 Michael Scooter69 you can save it (x) we save it as well


    08/06/09 22:42:23 Scooter69 Michael not like i can win to save my life anyway but knowing my luck i'll have one winning session and heaps of confusion will result lol

    08/06/09 22:42:26 Michael Scooter69 I will save it myself.. (x) you are the highest depositor I've ever had the pleasure to chat with.. lolz

    08/06/09 22:42:37 Michael Scooter69 lolz

    08/06/09 22:42:41 Scooter69 Michael ok just to confirm - i deposit 5k, get 10k cashable bonus

    08/06/09 22:42:46 Scooter69 Michael i can play video poker

    08/06/09 22:42:52 Michael Scooter69 yup done deal (x)

    08/06/09 22:43:09 Scooter69 Michael at what point could i cash out if i wished?


    08/06/09 22:43:17 Michael Scooter69 by the way, just so you know, you do not have a real money account yet.. you have to create one ok? (x)

    08/06/09 22:43:35 Michael Scooter69 you have to reach the wagering which is 12x(deposit+deposit bonus) very low no? (x)

    08/06/09 22:43:47 Scooter69 Michael yea i will go WAY above that


    08/06/09 22:43:58 Michael Scooter69 how would you be planing on depositing with us?

    08/06/09 22:43:59 Scooter69 Michael just so it's clear i'm gonna try and win like 50,000 or 100k or bust lol

    08/06/09 22:44:13 Michael Scooter69 lol niiice

    08/06/09 22:44:20 Scooter69 Michael i have busted like 20 times and cashed out 0 last 2 months heh

    08/06/09 22:44:30 Scooter69 Michael cashout of that size won't be problem?


    08/06/09 22:44:53 Scooter69 Michael no max cashout 1k a month etc - (this one casino tried to pull on me last year)

    08/06/09 22:44:59 Michael Scooter69 well, we have a standard rule that max cash out is $2500 per week but for high rollers we have ssssspecial dealzz (x)

    08/06/09 22:45:00 Scooter69 Michael cheeky trick worked i lost everything

    08/06/09 22:45:17 Michael Scooter69 oh i see what they do

    08/06/09 22:45:17 Scooter69 Michael ah see that 2500 week trick is cheeky - cause i lose it all lol

    08/06/09 22:45:21 Michael Scooter69 tricky in deed

    08/06/09 22:45:24 Scooter69 Michael whilst i'm waiting

    08/06/09 22:45:27 Michael Scooter69 nooo dont say that

    08/06/09 22:45:28 Michael Scooter69 lol

    08/06/09 22:45:33 Scooter69 Michael what's the high roller cashout limits?

    08/06/09 22:46:10 Michael Scooter69 my manager says that if you are a good high roller... no limits...



    (Scooter Note: "good high roller" lol - at the discretion of the manager - what a joke. As I was 100% serious for going for 100,000 or bust, I obviously had plans to be about as good a high roller as they'd seen for awhile.)


    08/06/09 22:46:12 Michael Scooter69 (x)

    08/06/09 22:46:14 Scooter69 Michael i don't mind something reasonable - but 2500 week or 1000 a month lol - that just makes me lose it all back

    08/06/09 22:46:28 Michael Scooter69 yeah man I see what you mean

    08/06/09 22:46:48 Scooter69 Michael ok not sure what he means by that but i'm pretty sure any casino in world would be happy with my stupidity

    08/06/09 22:46:55 Scooter69 Michael oh....the question

    08/06/09 22:46:56 Michael Scooter69 lolz

    08/06/09 22:46:59 Michael Scooter69 yes?

    08/06/09 22:47:02 Scooter69 Michael about the max bets

    08/06/09 22:47:14 Scooter69 Michael in this play money game max bet is $25 lol

    08/06/09 22:47:17 Scooter69 Michael no good

    08/06/09 22:47:22 Scooter69 Michael i wanna bet like 200 a spin

    08/06/09 22:47:27 Scooter69 Michael or more even


    08/06/09 22:47:33 Scooter69 Michael if i feeling lucky

    08/06/09 22:47:35 Michael Scooter69 yup you can

    08/06/09 22:47:41 Michael Scooter69 $200 a spin

    08/06/09 22:47:47 Scooter69 Michael ok cool


    08/06/09 22:47:51 Michael Scooter69 just got an answer from upstairs.. lolz

    08/06/09 22:47:52 Scooter69 Michael and is it just single line?

    08/06/09 22:48:02 Michael Scooter69 video poker?

    08/06/09 22:48:03 Scooter69 Michael i like 5 line if you have it?

    08/06/09 22:48:07 Scooter69 Michael yep video poker

    08/06/09 22:48:11 Michael Scooter69 I think is only one

    08/06/09 22:48:16 Scooter69 Michael NO 50 line lol

    08/06/09 22:48:18 Michael Scooter69 (x) sorry man

    08/06/09 22:48:21 Scooter69 Michael not after intercasino bastards

    08/06/09 22:48:27 Scooter69 Michael one line huh....

    08/06/09 22:48:28 Michael Scooter69 we have many lines on slots.. lolz

    08/06/09 22:48:31 Scooter69 Michael give me sec

    08/06/09 22:48:34 Michael Scooter69 sure (x)

    08/06/09 22:48:35 Scooter69 Michael slots bore me

    08/06/09 22:48:42 Michael Scooter69 to be honest me too (x)

    08/06/09 22:48:43 Scooter69 Michael i'm a winning poker player - who got rich

    08/06/09 22:48:45 Scooter69 Michael but now sucks

    08/06/09 22:48:50 Scooter69 Michael and can't win at poker

    08/06/09 22:48:51 Michael Scooter69 ohh

    08/06/09 22:48:56 Scooter69 Michael so i play video poker lol

    08/06/09 22:48:58 Michael Scooter69 thats why you play video poker?

    08/06/09 22:49:00 Michael Scooter69 lolzz

    08/06/09 22:49:30 Scooter69 Michael ok i'll set up real money account now - gonna grab beer etc - will do in next 5 min

    08/06/09 22:49:47 Michael Scooter69 awesome, ask for me when you in the other siiide (x)

    08/06/09 22:50:31 Scooter69 Michael ahhh sorry mike?

    08/06/09 22:50:38 Michael Scooter69 yes?

    08/06/09 22:50:45 Scooter69 Michael any link between Rome and Winward?

    08/06/09 22:51:07 Michael Scooter69 I only work for Rome man.. not that I know of..

    08/06/09 22:51:37 Scooter69 Michael winward are big - i would feel safer then

    08/06/09 22:51:46 Scooter69 Michael saw on google someone said you were owned by winward

    08/06/09 22:52:15 Scooter69 Michael as i'm going to either go bust or go for 50100,000 - i want to make sure you guys are rich enough to pay if i win - and i'm feeling lucky this time

    08/06/09 22:52:25 Michael Scooter69 we are a property of Dice partnersss

    08/06/09 22:52:47 Scooter69 Michael they own any big casinos?

    08/06/09 22:52:56 Michael Scooter69 thats the spirit!

    08/06/09 22:53:33 Scooter69 Michael ah just Rome owned by Dice

    08/06/09 22:54:37 Michael Scooter69 ok, so log in real mode first ok?

    08/06/09 22:54:47 Scooter69 Michael yep give me sec please

    08/06/09 22:55:02 Michael Scooter69 sure

    08/06/09 22:56:36 Scooter69 Michael kk just one final thing

    08/06/09 22:56:54 Scooter69 Michael i traveling and currently in bangkok - which sucks by the way don't ever bother lol



    (Scooter Note: Mark the manager on the phone just before claimed the reason they had to lock my account and freeze my funds was because my IP was from Thailand. I told him I made a special effort to ANNOUNCE to his staff I was logging in from Thailand. Further down, we discuss the Thailand issue again in depth before I deposit. Morons.)


    08/06/09 22:57:03 Scooter69 Michael but i'll be depositing by moneybookers

    08/06/09 22:57:44 Michael Scooter69 we do not accept money bookers at the moment



    (Scooter Note: Mark the manager on the phone, basically begging me not to charge back the stolen money - offered to send me money wherever I wanted it. I said "ship it to Moneybookers" - and he couldn't as apparently Moneybookers doesn't want to work with them. They continue to list Moneybookers as a deposit option on their site though. I think something pretty bad has to happen for Moneybookers to refuse to work with you - there would HAVE to be a real story behind this.)


    08/06/09 22:57:49 Scooter69 Michael ohhh

    08/06/09 22:57:54 Michael Scooter69 do you have another method to deposit maybe?

    08/06/09 22:57:55 Scooter69 Michael my money is all on moneybookers

    08/06/09 22:58:03 Scooter69 Michael nah

    08/06/09 22:58:04 Scooter69 Michael hmmm

    08/06/09 22:58:17 Scooter69 Michael it's on your site - moneybookers

    08/06/09 22:58:25 Scooter69 Michael problem their end or yours?

    08/06/09 22:58:37 Michael Scooter69 yes, it's tomporarly down...

    08/06/09 22:59:40 Scooter69 Michael lol i'm drunk so it's all good

    08/06/09 22:59:45 Scooter69 Michael when will you have moneybookers again?

    08/06/09 23:00:05 Michael Scooter69 don't really know

    08/06/09 23:00:14 Scooter69 Michael neteller i'm locked until i leave asia

    08/06/09 23:00:20 Scooter69 Michael no way to get around their nazis


    (Scooter Note: At this point, I set up a Real Money account and the manager OG takes over fairly quickly - who has *supposedly* been fired for his following behaviour by Mark, or so Mark claimed to me an hour ago on the phone.)

    Scooter69 23:09:27
    yo mike

    Support 23:09:27
    Thank you for contacting online support. One of our support operators will contact you as soon as possible.

    Michael 23:09:41
    hi

    Scooter69 23:10:11
    can you just email that chat to me - xxxx.xxxgmail..com

    Michael 23:10:25
    yes



    (Scooter Note: Had to ask him to email it for the first of MANY times as his claim that I could save chat transcript was a bold-faced lie.)


    Scooter69 23:10:44
    and you should DEFINTELY get the tech team to put in 5 line video poker - in my opinion

    Michael 23:10:58
    ok, just go to profile first and complete your details ok so i could send it

    Scooter69 23:11:15
    yep i'm in thailand on holiday

    Scooter69 23:11:24
    but i'm australian - should i put

    Scooter69 23:11:28
    my australia home address?

    Scooter69 23:11:31
    or my thai hotel


    Michael 23:11:57
    where is the card from


    Michael 23:11:59
    ?

    Scooter69 23:12:14
    australian card


    Scooter69 23:12:25
    i think everything australian best

    Michael 23:12:31
    so write your austrelia address


    Scooter69 23:13:18
    i'll have to check out this eco

    Scooter69 23:13:23
    3rd time i seen it

    Michael 23:13:37
    yes, it's good. i need you to show me that you are serious man, try to put 25 for a sec ok?



    (Scooter Note: I found the above comment really creepy. Like literally seconds after opening a Real Money account, and about to deposit 5000 - he's pressuring me to deposit $25 to "show (him) that (I) are serious man". WTF. Creepy imo.)


    Scooter69 23:13:53
    try to put 25?

    Michael 23:13:59
    ya

    Scooter69 23:14:02
    25,000?

    Scooter69 23:14:04
    huh?

    Michael 23:14:10
    25$

    Scooter69 23:14:20
    i'm about to put 5k in dude - chill

    Scooter69 23:14:30
    umm

    Michael 23:14:31
    (x)

    Scooter69 23:14:32
    it won't let me

    Scooter69 23:14:37
    has 1000 max


    Michael 23:14:38
    what?

    Scooter69 23:14:52
    lol what is this dropdown menu for amount

    Scooter69 23:15:03
    has Max 1000.23

    Michael 23:15:16
    it's a fixed amount, yes, you can do it 5 times

    Scooter69 23:15:31
    oh god


    Scooter69 23:15:39
    if i do it once - can you do it the rest?

    Michael 23:15:41
    thats what all of our players do, otherwise the bank raise an eye


    Scooter69 23:15:42
    i'm drunk

    Scooter69 23:15:51
    my CC wouldn't lol

    Michael 23:15:58
    (x)

    Scooter69 23:16:07
    sigh hang on

    Scooter69 23:16:12
    you sent that email?


    Michael 23:16:36
    not yet



    (Scooter Note: The SECOND time I've had to ask him for the chat transcript after his lie about my ability to save the transcript myself.)

    Scooter69 23:16:42
    i'll wait.

    Michael 23:17:56
    whats the email again?

    Scooter69 23:18:12
    xxx.xxx@gmail.com (Scooter Note: Email removed)

    Michael 23:19:56
    i am sending it

    Scooter69 23:20:03
    first 1k went through

    Scooter69 23:20:13
    oh sweet card is saved

    Michael 23:20:19
    yes (x)

    Scooter69 23:20:20
    i thought i would have to put all details in every time

    Michael 23:20:47
    no

    Michael 23:20:58
    can my manager call you?

    Scooter69 23:21:06
    yes

    Scooter69 23:21:12
    but i have a headache so just quick pls

    Michael 23:21:14
    ok great

    Scooter69 23:21:19
    until the vicodin work

    Scooter69 23:21:48
    i think your manager is on phone

    Scooter69 23:21:53
    but he doesn't realise i'm listening

    Scooter69 23:22:09
    that was a weird phone call



    (Scooter Note: At this point, the OG manager called me but I'm certain he was drunk. He wasn't speaking to me, but I could hear him laughing and jabbering away to someone else. Then he hung up without ever speaking to me.)


    Michael 23:22:11
    ok

    Scooter69 23:22:16
    does he have italian accent?

    Michael 23:22:57
    maybe

    Michael 23:25:21
    My dear

    Michael 23:25:23
    Its OG



    (Scooter Note: He starts calling me his "dear" and stuff. After awhile, I politely request he stops doing it but if you read further, it just goes on and on until he tells me he loves me. W.T.F.? lol.)


    Scooter69 23:25:27
    OG?

    Michael 23:25:30
    The shift manager here

    Michael 23:25:34
    how r u

    Scooter69 23:25:39
    oh hi sorry

    Michael 23:25:43
    so happy that u r with us (x)

    Scooter69 23:25:45
    stupid headache and vicodin not working

    Scooter69 23:25:56
    you won't be happy when i win 50,000!!!

    Scooter69 23:25:58
    hah

    Michael 23:26:05
    wish u the best

    Scooter69 23:26:17
    yes i'm sure (x)

    Michael 23:26:22
    yes yes

    Michael 23:26:28
    I want u to win my dear

    Michael 23:26:37
    but I need you send us some docs.


    Scooter69 23:26:39
    i wouldn't if i were you lol

    Michael 23:26:43
    when you'll win the 50k

    Scooter69 23:26:50
    i'd be like gimmma momma the money

    Michael 23:26:54
    to allow u to cash it out


    Michael 23:26:55
    (x)

    Scooter69 23:26:56
    yea no problem

    Scooter69 23:26:58
    what docs

    Michael 23:27:13
    pics of CC

    Scooter69 23:27:20
    no problem

    Michael 23:27:23
    picture of ID

    Michael 23:27:32
    And Utilitybill

    Scooter69 23:27:32
    cool

    Michael 23:27:34
    ok ?

    Michael 23:27:37
    thats all

    Scooter69 23:27:37
    yep no problem


    Scooter69 23:27:42
    hey it says:

    Scooter69 23:27:54
    you can't deposit at this time - when i was sending the 4th batch of $1000

    Scooter69 23:27:59
    problem at your end?

    Michael 23:28:02
    wait my deatr

    Michael 23:28:22
    wait a sec my dear

    Scooter69 23:28:30
    i'm very effiminate and often mistaken for gay, but calling me 'dear' freaks me a little lol

    Scooter69 23:28:41
    buddy would work

    Michael 23:28:41
    lol

    Michael 23:28:42
    ok

    Michael 23:28:46
    budd.

    Michael 23:28:47
    (x)

    Scooter69 23:28:50
    cool lol. sorry

    Scooter69 23:29:09
    i'm honestly not homophobic lol - just never called dear except by my mum


    Michael 23:29:19
    lol

    Michael 23:29:32
    why is the fastest that u can send me the docs?


    Scooter69 23:29:55
    i could scan them and email - i probably have one or two scanned already from intercasino

    Scooter69 23:30:08
    but why don't i just wait to see if i win?


    Michael 23:30:08
    can you do it now?

    Scooter69 23:30:17
    redundant when i lose won't it?

    Michael 23:30:31
    if you want to keep dep. I must it ... (x)

    Scooter69 23:30:47
    kk i'll see what i got and scan the rest


    Scooter69 23:31:03
    mike was supposed to send me an email also which i haven't received - can you tell him to do that



    (Scooter Note: THIRD time I've had to ask for the emailed transcript after Mike lied about saving chat functionality.)


    Michael 23:31:20
    support@romecasino.com

    Michael 23:31:24
    ok budd. ?

    Scooter69 23:31:43
    fuken. sigh. this hotel blows. oh it's all good - reception picked up - they'll run down to scan this shit for me once i find it

    Scooter69 23:31:51
    yep

    Scooter69 23:31:57
    do i have to send before i start playing?

    Michael 23:31:58
    ok my friend

    Michael 23:32:16
    if you can thats will be great, if not start playing (x)

    Scooter69 23:32:17
    did you fix the cashier?

    Michael 23:32:47
    will be fixed when you'll send, till then start playing


    Scooter69 23:32:57
    ah ok gotcha

    Scooter69 23:33:09
    well i got utiltiy and passport scanned already - you want those now?

    Scooter69 23:33:25
    and credit card in 5 min when idiot boy moves his ass up here

    Scooter69 23:33:29
    ohhh you need the CC

    Michael 23:33:35
    yes

    Scooter69 23:33:36
    it's all good i'll have a beer and wait

    Michael 23:33:36
    (x)

    Scooter69 23:33:39
    i understand

    Scooter69 23:33:44
    this hotel blows

    Michael 23:34:15
    lol

    Scooter69 23:40:59
    this is bs- i have to go down there - manager says no one is in the business centre and this little monkey has run off with my card

    Scooter69 23:41:05
    back in 5 min

    Michael 23:42:41
    lol

    Michael 23:42:42
    ok

    Scooter69 23:45:30
    ok for once the bellboy is not being a moron

    Michael 23:45:47
    (x)

    Scooter69 23:46:01
    i don't know how to work this weird business centre Brother scan either - i'm going to send you my passport and utility bill

    Michael 23:46:14
    great

    Scooter69 23:46:14
    and if i win i'll go get my CC scanned somewhere else down the road

    Michael 23:46:21
    ok

    Scooter69 23:46:22
    i wanna play though

    Michael 23:46:28
    ok budd.

    Michael 23:46:33
    no problemo

    Scooter69 23:46:39
    let's make it 3000 with 6000 bonus then? same thing

    Scooter69 23:46:58
    ill wager 50 times or more - i'm going for BUST or 50,000 - one time!!


    Michael 23:47:10
    Our security must check the docs my friend. play with the 3k


    Michael 23:47:18
    (x)

    Scooter69 23:47:30
    yea i'm sending the docs


    ----------------------------


    Scooter69 23:47:38
    you need the docs to credit the bonus?

    Michael 23:47:44
    yes



    ----------------------------

    Scooter69 23:48:00
    oh hey i might be genius

    Michael 23:48:06
    ?

    Scooter69 23:48:16
    how about a screenshot of my internet banking with this credit card? showing the CC number and everything

    Michael 23:48:28
    great

    Scooter69 23:48:34
    sweet - sec

    Scooter69 23:51:27
    all sending now -

    Michael 23:51:35
    great

    Scooter69 23:51:38
    thank buddah, allah and jehovah for vicodin

    Scooter69 23:51:45
    headache pwned

    Scooter69 23:51:52
    kk should be in your inbox now

    Michael 23:51:59
    lol ok

    Scooter69 23:52:15
    this is the MOST work i've ever done setting up a casino account lol

    Michael 23:52:32
    but it will be great... u will see


    Michael 23:52:33
    (x)

    Scooter69 23:52:38
    but if it means they don't try cheeky tricks which ALWAYS get me good when withdrawing i'll be happy

    Scooter69 23:52:44
    i get done every time by those tricks

    Michael 23:52:57
    noooooooooooooooooo

    Michael 23:53:00
    no tricks

    Michael 23:53:02
    nothing

    Michael 23:53:07
    you are in OG hands

    Michael 23:53:08
    (x)


    Scooter69 23:53:21
    you get the email?

    Scooter69 23:53:25
    i'm still waiting on mine

    Scooter69 23:53:29
    that Mike promised to send



    (Scooter Note: I think the FOURTH time I've had to ask for email transcript of chat after Mike lied.)



    Scooter69 23:53:34
    is he new that Mike?

    Michael 23:53:36
    yes

    Michael 23:53:37
    (x)

    Scooter69 23:53:48
    seems cool, but needs to get cracking

    Michael 23:54:25
    too young (x)

    Scooter69 23:55:17
    i'm cool cause i'm in the hands of Mr. Vicodin - but as a tip, take it or leave it, i reckon players will get annoyed at this normally

    Scooter69 23:55:30
    if i was sober i woudl be gone by now i think - just my 2 cents

    Michael 23:55:36
    start playing my dear


    Michael 23:55:46
    budd.

    Michael 23:55:49
    sorry (x)

    Scooter69 23:55:51
    i've asked for my email 5 times now

    Michael 23:55:57
    start playing

    Scooter69 23:55:58
    i'll play when it arrives

    Scooter69 23:56:11
    and i'll play when i'm good and ready



    (Scooter Note: I'm really starting to get annoyed at this point, but remain polite. The idiot keeps ordering me to start playing, with none of the promised bonus and no email transcript in case there are "confusions" down the track. I'm pretty over this entire process now and sick of him calling me "dear" and wasting my time.)



    Michael 23:56:13
    what do u want to be in ur email ?

    Scooter69 23:56:16
    seriously?

    Scooter69 23:56:21
    ask mike

    Michael 23:56:39
    bonus?

    Michael 23:56:41
    tell me

    Michael 23:56:45
    really

    Scooter69 23:56:49
    he lied to me first off, little white lie, then promised me he'd send me the chat via email

    Michael 23:57:10
    sure

    Scooter69 23:57:14
    i just want our entire chat transcrips sent to my email

    Michael 23:57:14
    no prob.

    Scooter69 23:57:21
    chop chop

    Michael 23:57:22
    really?

    Michael 23:57:25
    no prob.

    Scooter69 23:58:27
    umm what lol

    Scooter69 23:58:35
    Mike said i could bet $200 a spin



    (Scooter Note: This is on the Video Poker table which had MAX $25 spin instead of the $200 spins promised before I deposited. I've pretty much had enough of these jokers and the amount of wasted time and wishing I never deposited at this joke casino.)



    Michael 23:58:35
    copy all

    Scooter69 23:58:52
    it's got max $25 here

    Michael 23:58:59
    wait

    Scooter69 00:00:45
    this software isn't that bad

    Scooter69 00:00:59
    better than whatever those evil hoes at intercasino use

    Michael 00:01:55
    thx budd.

    Scooter69 00:04:13
    what's the problem now?

    Michael 00:04:25
    why prob. ?

    Michael 00:04:29
    you'll get all

    Michael 00:04:39
    per ur request

    Scooter69 00:04:50
    am i talking to Mike or OG?

    Michael 00:04:58
    OG




    --------------------------------------------




    Michael 00:05:07
    AND im giving you bonus now





    -------------------------------------------





    Scooter69 00:05:12
    OG, why am I waiting? You have pending tasks - ok

    Michael 00:06:00
    can I call u for a sec

    Scooter69 00:06:06
    did you hear what i wrote about the table max? i bet $25 once - i think it was 2004


    Scooter69 00:06:09
    yes

    Michael 00:07:28
    wait

    Michael 00:07:31
    Im calling u

    Michael 00:07:37
    to explain all

    Michael 00:07:43
    jUst answer


    (Scooter Note: At this point, the manager calls me to tell me to hurry up and play, and that they'll credit the bonus tomorrow. I tell him I'm not playing until they credit the promised bonus, and he says really forcefully something like "JUST START PLAYING OK!!! ARE YOU HERE TO PLAY OR NOT?"

    I hung up on him instantly and returned to Live Chat at this point.)



    Scooter69 00:08:50
    talk to me through here

    Michael 00:08:56
    ok

    Scooter69 00:08:57
    say what you're saying here

    Michael 00:08:59
    Listen

    Michael 00:09:04
    its OG here

    Michael 00:09:07
    not mark

    Michael 00:09:10
    listen

    Scooter69 00:09:41
    i'm listening

    Michael 00:10:57
    I can't give you bonuses now ot allow u to deposit more , the security must review the docs, to check if everything ok and then you'll be good to go .. till then , you can play , to win , and to cash out , when everything ok - with the docs, you'll be good to go , its 24 hours, thats all

    Michael 00:11:07
    you deposited a lot in very short time



    (Scooter Note: The manager who told me to deposit 5k is now telling me 3k is "a lot" and has to be checked by security department, but he's ordering me to play yet AGAIN! I've had enough of this moron by now and frankly, proud of my apparent zen attitude during this chat.)



    Michael 00:11:11
    thats all

    Scooter69 00:11:11
    nah that's retarded

    Scooter69 00:11:15
    5000 lol

    Michael 00:11:17
    so they have to check that

    Scooter69 00:11:18
    that's nothing

    Scooter69 00:11:22
    hahah i even did 3000

    Michael 00:11:24
    (x)

    Scooter69 00:11:34
    want me to show you screenshot of 6,000,000 i wagered at Intercasino in a few days?

    Michael 00:11:37
    don't worry about the bonus

    Scooter69 00:11:42
    nah screw that

    Scooter69 00:11:46
    i'm cashing out


    Scooter69 00:12:02
    i don't put up with silly stuff like this - and this is me ON Vicodin lol

    Michael 00:12:18
    lol

    Scooter69 00:12:21
    your chat box would be filled with a lot more colourful language otherwise

    Scooter69 00:13:09
    i just got Mike's email

    Scooter69 00:13:11
    of the chat

    Scooter69 00:13:24
    you wanna read it before i cash out - why waste people's time?

    Michael 00:14:10
    if I want to read it ?

    Michael 00:14:12
    why ?

    Michael 00:14:15
    I have it my dear

    Scooter69 00:14:21
    stop with the DEAR

    Scooter69 00:14:23
    seriously


    Michael 00:14:27
    sorry

    Scooter69 00:14:28
    it's freaky

    Michael 00:14:33
    budd.

    Michael 00:14:36
    budd.

    Michael 00:14:37
    (x)

    Scooter69 00:14:38
    and i deposited and wasted all this time

    Scooter69 00:14:45
    and you are just messing me around



    (Scooter Note: We're going on almost 2 hours of this nonsense. Just ridiculous. If they credited my account with the bonus at this point, I don't even think I'd trust them enough to play.)


    Michael 00:14:49
    why wasted ?

    Michael 00:14:53
    noooo

    Scooter69 00:14:56
    because i could be gambling!!!

    Michael 00:14:56
    my friend

    Michael 00:15:01
    its a security issue

    Scooter69 00:15:12
    stop with the friend buddy dear and everything

    Michael 00:15:18
    ok

    Scooter69 00:15:22
    put the bonuses in my account or i'm cashing out now

    Michael 00:15:25
    no problemo


    Michael 00:15:43
    I cant, just wait 24 hours thats all

    Scooter69 00:15:57
    i'm cashing out - where is the cash out button?


    Michael 00:16:16
    look,

    Michael 00:16:21
    I'll give u a lot

    Michael 00:16:26
    I dont have a limits

    Scooter69 00:16:28
    i don't want a lot

    Scooter69 00:16:33
    i want to gamble

    Scooter69 00:16:40
    and not have my time wasted by jokers


    Michael 00:16:44
    but you have 4k

    Michael 00:16:56
    its a lot

    Scooter69 00:16:57
    yes that was not what we agreed upon was it?

    Scooter69 00:17:03
    you have lost my trust

    Scooter69 00:17:07
    tell me where to withdraw


    Michael 00:17:09
    But you must understand

    Scooter69 00:17:25
    NO YOU MUST UNDERSTAND - my trust has been lost now -

    Michael 00:17:28
    its a issue that all of our players deal with


    (Scooter Note: The idiot is saying it's an "issue that all players deal with". Only minutes after saying he was crediting the bonus now. I now really want to just kill-file this casino and uninstall it and never have to talk to morons like this again - at this point.)


    Scooter69 00:17:30
    i don't want to gamble here


    Michael 00:17:40
    why???

    Scooter69 00:17:46
    answer my question so i don't have to ask it for the 4th time

    Scooter69 00:17:47
    WHERE

    Scooter69 00:17:49
    IS

    Scooter69 00:17:49
    THE

    Scooter69 00:17:55
    WITHDRAW

    Michael 00:17:56
    menu

    Scooter69 00:17:56
    BUTTOn

    Michael 00:17:59
    menu

    Scooter69 00:18:03
    thank you

    Michael 00:18:04
    withdrawal

    Scooter69 00:18:12
    lol

    Scooter69 00:18:16
    lolol


    (Scooter Note: I'm laughing because he's twice directed me to the following screen, just being a complete prick at this point:



    "NO WITHDRAWALS ALLOWED")



    Michael 00:18:22
    I really want u to think about it

    Scooter69 00:18:27
    i really hate having to do chargebacks


    Michael 00:18:29
    there is nothing that I can do

    Scooter69 00:18:53
    but hey the joy i get knowing mastercard will screw your processor who will screw you - that will carry me through

    Michael 00:18:54
    I really dont understand why 24 hours = chargeback

    Scooter69 00:19:01
    i'm saving all these screenshots

    Scooter69 00:19:03
    for my bank

    Scooter69 00:19:07
    you're gonna get owned so bad

    Scooter69 00:19:15
    your processor might even drop you

    Scooter69 00:19:22
    or raise your % for CC's

    Scooter69 00:19:41
    do you wanna play this game? i'm having fun now (x)

    Scooter69 00:19:45
    i was annoyed before

    Michael 00:19:53
    wanna play what?

    Michael 00:20:05
    Im really wanna give u the best

    Scooter69 00:20:05
    first i really wanna show you my 6 million wagered at intercasino - can i do that?

    Scooter69 00:20:12
    so you see what kind of player you screwing around

    Michael 00:20:14
    all we have to do is to wait 24 hours

    Scooter69 00:20:28
    DO YOU THINK I LOOK LIKE THE TYPE OF GAMBLER WHO LIKES TO WAIT?

    Michael 00:20:34
    no

    Michael 00:20:37
    but,

    Scooter69 00:20:42
    intercasino are crooks but i was gambling in 5 min from downloading them

    Michael 00:20:42
    there is no choice

    Michael 00:20:44
    24 hours

    Michael 00:20:46
    thats all

    Scooter69 00:20:54
    stop saying that or i will get annoyed

    Michael 00:21:01
    I like u

    Michael 00:21:04
    really


    Scooter69 00:21:04
    you have the following choices


    Michael 00:21:05
    (x)

    Michael 00:21:12
    listen

    Scooter69 00:21:17
    1. Fulfill the promise you made
    .

    Michael 00:21:19
    If you dont want to wait

    Michael 00:21:28
    2. ?

    Michael 00:21:29
    (x)

    Scooter69 00:21:43
    2. Process my cashout in FULL for entire deposits.

    Scooter69 00:21:51
    3. and i hope you choose this one

    Scooter69 00:21:56
    3. We get to play. (x)


    Scooter69 00:22:14
    i don't wait. and i don't put up with bs

    Michael 00:22:21
    ok

    Michael 00:22:33
    I want u to play

    Michael 00:22:36
    I want you to win

    Michael 00:22:50
    I won't , didn't and Im not lie to you

    Scooter69 00:22:56
    sigh. i'm not going to play at Rome - i'm going to play WITH Rome

    Michael 00:23:02
    but you are a player in a casino that has rules

    Scooter69 00:23:21
    i will call my bank now - friend of family manager there - she will have claims in to Mastercard in about oh 30 min i would think

    Michael 00:23:33
    (x)

    Scooter69 00:23:37
    she will pass on all this chat and screenshots along

    Scooter69 00:23:46
    mastercard will be pissed at your processors

    Scooter69 00:24:02
    your processor (depending on how much vig they charge you) will or won't be pissed at you

    Scooter69 00:24:15
    either way my money will be credited to my account before the end of the day by my bank

    Scooter69 00:24:34
    and trust me, THEY GET THE MONEY from mastercard - and mastercard WILL GET THE MONEY from whoever

    Scooter69 00:24:49
    you're going to go with 3? (x) yay?

    Michael 00:25:03
    wait a sec please

    Michael 00:25:09
    like players like u

    Michael 00:25:10
    (x)

    Scooter69 00:25:19
    sigh i have to show you this screenshot of intercasino crooks - just so make the game more fun

    Michael 00:25:30
    trust u

    Michael 00:25:32
    really

    Michael 00:25:38
    u know the game

    Michael 00:25:39
    its ok

    Michael 00:25:41
    (x)

    Scooter69 00:25:43
    the game?

    Scooter69 00:25:49
    i don't trust you guys anymore

    Michael 00:25:49
    yea

    Scooter69 00:25:53
    that's not a game

    Michael 00:25:58
    why ??

    Scooter69 00:26:01
    that's me being a gambler for a long time


    Michael 00:26:11
    where did we lie?

    Scooter69 00:26:13
    and being screwed many times

    Michael 00:26:20
    where did we say something wrong?

    Scooter69 00:26:28
    i'm not your mother

    Scooter69 00:26:35
    and i don't patronise

    Scooter69 00:26:38
    read the chat

    Scooter69 00:26:46
    and don't waste my time dot-pointing it out for you

    Michael 00:27:07
    everything in the chats you'll get

    Michael 00:27:14
    but just wait

    Michael 00:27:17
    thats all

    Scooter69 00:27:18
    i don't wait

    Scooter69 00:27:25
    tell your guys to get cracking

    Scooter69 00:27:29
    or i get to call Hazel

    Scooter69 00:27:56
    i'm gonna give you....12 minutes before i call - once i call it's done

    Scooter69 00:28:08
    i can't renege it - it's chargeback and hazel will own

    Michael 00:28:10
    told u you know the game (x)

    Scooter69 00:28:33
    you have 12 minutes - this isn't a game for me

    Scooter69 00:28:35
    this is boring

    Michael 00:28:50
    Thats all ?

    Michael 00:28:59
    you logged in to give me 12 mins?

    Scooter69 00:29:19
    but knowing you get burned if you screw me will make it fun for the 5 min it takes to call Hazel and her vicious animal bark will go to work

    Scooter69 00:29:28
    you have 11 min

    Michael 00:29:35
    no

    Scooter69 00:29:37
    to do the right thing

    Michael 00:29:39
    I have 10

    Scooter69 00:29:43
    very good

    Michael 00:29:44
    in my clock

    Michael 00:29:48
    (x)

    Scooter69 00:29:49
    i'm starting to like you...

    Scooter69 00:29:57
    but like 2% - lets get it up higher

    Michael 00:30:06
    you cant even imagine how mucj u can like me


    Michael 00:30:20
    told ya,

    Scooter69 00:30:23
    omg you cannot imagine how much Vicodin is YOUR friend right now

    Michael 00:30:26
    I know the game

    Scooter69 00:30:36
    i would be all finished with hazel and finding another casino

    Scooter69 00:30:42
    about 15 min ago

    Michael 00:30:45
    and I like to see people that know that too

    Scooter69 00:37:48
    2 min by my count

    Michael 00:38:17
    no problemo, refund for all thx and goodbye (x)

    Michael 00:38:25
    lots of luck (x)

    Scooter69 00:38:37
    it's showing me i cannot withdraw still

    Scooter69 00:38:50
    you're choosing option 3?

    Michael 00:39:03
    (x) (x) (x)

    Michael 00:39:07
    lmao

    Scooter69 00:39:09
    ?

    Michael 00:39:17
    You lettin' me choose an option ?

    Michael 00:39:19
    (x)

    Scooter69 00:39:20
    come on dude i gotta go

    Michael 00:39:30
    Im so likkkkkkkkkkkkkeeeeeeeee u !!

    Scooter69 00:39:32
    you're choosing 3?

    Michael 00:39:32
    (x)

    Scooter69 00:39:47
    ok you're choosing 3 - i'm moving on - good game.

    Michael 00:39:49
    Im not in a mood to choose options

    Scooter69 00:39:59
    3 is default

    Michael 00:40:01
    Are you sure

    Scooter69 00:40:12
    you're rejecting 1 and 2 - only leaves 3

    Michael 00:40:20
    you want to play the game and not the slots?

    Michael 00:40:30
    (x)


    Scooter69 00:40:54
    can you humour me - just before i go - and explain what the reason was exactly for the 24 hours?

    Scooter69 00:41:06
    just out of curiousity

    Michael 00:41:57
    u know,

    Michael 00:42:03
    we can be a good friend

    Scooter69 00:42:05
    you're not very quick on your feet

    Michael 00:42:15
    I like your way of thinking

    Scooter69 00:42:17
    i have to take points off for that

    Michael 00:42:19
    really

    Michael 00:42:22
    (x)

    Michael 00:42:35
    do u really want me to explain to you?

    Scooter69 00:42:53
    i'm just not retarded. well i am, i know i should stop gambling but frankly i'm bored out of my mind and rich

    Scooter69 00:43:12
    but i'm not retarded when i'm being screwed - i had to learn that the hard way -

    Michael 00:43:28
    no....

    Scooter69 00:43:33
    i would like to see how well you think on your feet yes

    Michael 00:43:36
    you just have to wait 24 hours

    Michael 00:43:37
    thats all

    Michael 00:43:42
    everything will be ok

    Scooter69 00:43:44
    that's an explanation?

    Scooter69 00:43:56
    0 out of 10

    Scooter69 00:44:02
    i can't even give it a sympathy point

    Scooter69 00:44:10
    and i'm all about the sympathy consolation point

    Michael 00:44:22
    told ya I like you

    Michael 00:44:23
    (x)


    Scooter69 00:44:29
    most people do lol

    Michael 00:44:34
    yea

    Scooter69 00:44:37
    i can't say you're impressing me much so far

    Scooter69 00:44:47
    and i want to have fun also

    Michael 00:44:50
    mmm...... (x)

    Scooter69 00:44:53
    but i need to have worthy opposition

    Michael 00:45:07
    you know, I didnt start to impress you


    Michael 00:45:19
    should I ? (x)

    Michael 00:45:23
    ITS FUN

    Scooter69 00:45:24
    you haven't done it accidentally that's for sure


    Michael 00:45:25
    (x)

    Michael 00:45:30
    lol

    Michael 00:45:34
    ok ,

    Michael 00:45:42
    so ...

    Michael 00:45:44
    tell me

    Scooter69 00:46:02
    tell you what?

    Michael 00:46:51
    what do u wanna do

    Michael 00:46:59
    u know its already 23 hours (x)

    Michael 00:47:05
    in my clock

    Michael 00:47:09
    (x)

    Scooter69 00:47:11
    lol

    Michael 00:47:18
    u see ?

    Michael 00:47:18
    (x)

    Scooter69 00:47:21
    oh you thought we were still pending?

    Michael 00:47:26
    lol

    Michael 00:47:32
    so likkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkeeeeeeeeee u


    Scooter69 00:47:45
    no hazel has been called and blah blah blah she never shuts up gotten out of the way

    Scooter69 00:47:56
    i imagine she's doing chargeback crap with mastercard now

    Michael 00:48:02
    give here an hey from me

    Michael 00:48:02
    (x)

    Scooter69 00:48:08
    why would i?

    Scooter69 00:48:13
    i don't have to call her back

    Michael 00:48:18
    ohhh

    Michael 00:48:22
    so its ok

    Scooter69 00:48:24
    we've done this before - last year when someone annoyed me

    Michael 00:48:44
    (x)

    Scooter69 00:49:10
    trust me - when you do 300,000 on a CC expense in a year on gambling - and then you make ONE or TWO charge backs a year with all chats and screenshots - mastercard will burn

    Scooter69 00:49:14
    your processor

    Scooter69 00:49:16
    to the ground.

    Scooter69 00:49:27
    and i'm a *little* vindictive like that - so i'm smiling

    Michael 00:49:32
    really ?

    Scooter69 00:49:41
    now i'm just waiting for lunch delivery so still talking

    Michael 00:49:43
    (x) (x)

    Michael 00:49:54
    HAVE A GOOD ONE BUDD.

    Michael 00:49:58
    OHHH....

    Michael 00:50:06
    send me the 6,00,00

    Scooter69 00:50:06
    you don't want to chat with me while i wait?

    Michael 00:50:10
    and etc...

    Michael 00:50:17
    must leave

    Michael 00:50:18
    (x)

    Scooter69 00:50:25
    nothing has impressed me enough to bother

    Scooter69 00:50:34
    you wanna give my question another shot?


    -------------------------


    Michael 00:51:38
    Lets finish with optimistic way

    Michael 00:51:44
    I love u



    ---------------------------

    Michael 00:51:50
    u impressed me a lot

    Michael 00:51:51
    (x)

    Michael 00:51:56
    10 from 10

    Michael 00:51:57
    (x)

    Scooter69 00:52:07
    the 'love' stuff and the 'dear' is kinda creepy but ok


    Scooter69 00:52:15
    by way is this OG, Mike or Mark?

    Michael 00:52:16
    naaa......

    Scooter69 00:52:19
    OG right?

    Michael 00:52:19
    its my style

    Michael 00:52:23
    OG

    Michael 00:52:25
    yes

    Michael 00:52:30
    original ................

    Michael 00:52:31
    (x) (x) (x) (x)

    Michael 00:52:33
    lol

    Scooter69 00:52:34
    kk - just saying some guys would find it confronting

    Scooter69 00:52:45
    you the top dog at Rome?

    Michael 00:52:57
    sshhhhh.......

    Michael 00:53:00
    its a secret

    Michael 00:53:05
    lolololololol

    Michael 00:53:12
    no im not ..

    Michael 00:53:15
    its ok

    Scooter69 00:53:20
    you're Mark's assistant?

    Michael 00:53:24
    maybe 1 day

    Michael 00:53:30
    lololololololol

    Michael 00:53:36
    you're funny my friend

    Michael 00:53:41
    but i really like u

    Scooter69 00:54:05
    everyone likes me

    Scooter69 00:54:16
    i'm like big on every poker forum

    Scooter69 00:54:20
    but people are boring

    Michael 00:54:37
    its ok (x)

    Scooter69 00:54:51
    please wait till my lunch comes

    Scooter69 00:54:58
    and give my questions some shots

    Michael 00:55:00
    bon a petite

    Michael 00:55:01
    (x)

    Scooter69 00:55:05
    ok

    Michael 00:55:08
    i answered all

    Scooter69 00:55:11
    no you didn't

    Michael 00:55:16
    have fun budd.

    Michael 00:55:21
    p.s.

    Scooter69 00:55:24
    i asked why you changed from promising a bonus to telling me to play without a bonus?

    Michael 00:55:27
    what will u eat?

    Scooter69 00:55:43
    they have this awesome FOODBYPHONE.com thing here

    Michael 00:55:56
    the bonus will be in your account in 23 hours

    Scooter69 00:55:59
    like 20 restaurants - they get it out so fast - but not now cause stupid rush hour

    Scooter69 00:56:06
    um lol

    Scooter69 00:56:12
    i won't be able to play with it dude

    Michael 00:56:16
    i didnt know that security will block u for review your docs

    Michael 00:56:18
    thats all



    -------------

    (Scooter Note: He didn't know security would block my docs, but yet before he said anyone who deposits a thousand or so or more faces this same issue. I've had enough of the unbelievable waste of time and the incompetence and the lies at this point - am just waiting on food delivery.)

    ---------------

    Scooter69 00:56:22
    if i won you wouldn't let me keep it

    Michael 00:56:23
    you can trust me

    Michael 00:56:26
    you cant..

    Michael 00:56:30
    your choice

    Scooter69 00:56:36
    why would security block me?


    Michael 00:56:36
    ??????????????????????????????
    ????????????????????????????????????????

    Michael 00:56:38
    try me

    Michael 00:56:50
    because you deposited a lot in short time

    Scooter69 00:56:55
    a LOT?

    Michael 00:56:55
    its suspicious



    (Scooter Note: Yes, its really suspicious that I would ACTUALLY deposit HALF of what he had just agreed with me that I would deposit. Yes, that must ring alarm bells. Put the entire department on those high resolution scans over this $3000 deposit - 2.5 hours lying about it and refusal to award the bonus but MULTIPLE demands that I play without it.)



    Michael 00:56:59
    lol

    Michael 00:57:00
    (x)

    Michael 00:57:05
    in 5 mins.

    Michael 00:57:09
    for a new player

    Scooter69 00:57:14
    yes because YOU and I had a deal

    Michael 00:57:16
    came from fun

    Scooter69 00:57:17
    a TINY deal lol

    Michael 00:57:25
    its a lot

    Michael 00:57:35
    if you want to wait - great

    Michael 00:57:41
    will take care of you

    Scooter69 00:57:42
    i can't wait

    Michael 00:57:44
    if not

    Michael 00:57:55
    ciao amigo and bon a petite

    Michael 00:57:56
    (x)

    Michael 00:58:01
    ur choice

    Scooter69 00:58:11
    why would security block my docs?

    Scooter69 00:58:18
    they're high res scans

    Michael 00:58:22
    the didnt block ur docs

    Michael 00:58:30
    the have to review ie

    Michael 00:58:32
    *it

    Scooter69 00:58:35
    is this like you saying that really security has a headache today lol

    Michael 00:58:43
    lololololol

    Michael 00:58:55
    so, done ? the chargback ?

    Michael 00:59:01
    finito ?

    Michael 00:59:08
    Hazel is ok ?

    Michael 00:59:10
    (x) (x) (x) (x) (x)

    Michael 01:00:23
    ok mon amico .

    Michael 01:00:28
    Hope u are ok there

    Michael 01:00:34
    i can smell the food

    Michael 01:00:38
    have a good one,

    Michael 01:00:44
    and, do me a favor,

    Michael 01:00:54
    I really dont wanna miss, you,

    Michael 01:01:03
    I like people like you around me

    Michael 01:01:06
    really

    Michael 01:01:08
    (x)

    Michael 01:01:17
    it makes me feel better

    Michael 01:01:20
    sharp ....

    Michael 01:01:25
    you know what I mean

    Michael 01:01:28
    have to go!

    Michael 01:01:37
    ciao , been ,y pleasure!

    Michael 01:01:38
    (x) (x) (x)

    Michael 01:03:30
    no good bye ?

    Michael 01:03:35
    (x) (x) (x) (x)

    Michael 01:04:23
    will miss u , 4 sure

    Michael 01:04:35
    good night budd.

    Michael 01:04:36
    (x)



    (Scooter Note: This closing tirade was some of the creepiest shit I'd ever seen from a CS type, let alone a manager.)

    -----------------

    I was actually too lazy and tired after lunch to actually phone my bank and fell asleep. I woke up much later that day and had an email from Rome Casino security saying all my docs were authorised. I replied asking if the bonus had been credited - or preferably, if I just could withdraw my deposit.

    I received no response overnight. When I tried to login again this morning, I was locked out of my account - having never played a single hand.



    I'm pretty lazy - maybe the laziest person in the world - and Hazel DOES love to chat and chat and gossip sigh. But this made me angry enough that I called her, emailed her the transcripts and screenshots - and she started the charge back process in fury.

    -------------

    A couple hours ago I guess, the casino manager calling himself "the top dog" (Mark) rang me and started well with apologising for everything - the abuse, the time wasting, etc. I thanked him for his apology. He said he fired OG. I said that's a bit of a no-brainer but that he should probably fire himself also for running an operation like that.

    He blamed everyone BUT himself for it all. Said his staff broke strict rules to offer bonuses they weren't even authorised to offer. Said his security department does things he can't control. I asked him if they worked for him. He said "yes". I told him the people that work for me, do what I fucking tell them to do.

    He begged me not to process the charge backs. I told him it was out of my hands, and that due to my laziness and lack of caring too much about 3k, I actually hadn't started the charge back process until I'd been locked out of my account with no notice and no response to emails. So he got over 24 hrs more time than he should have gotten to fix the joke that is his entire operation there.

    He pleaded with me to reverse the charge backs. I said I couldn't even if I wanted to, which I didn't - and reminded him of the ridiculous number of warnings I'd given.

    He then, moronically, tried to threaten me - saying: "No casino will EVER let you gamble again if you go through with these charge backs. YOU HEAR ME! NO CASINO WILL EVER TAKE YOUR ACTION."

    I calmly told him to stop being a moron and that idiocy was insulting for both of us - degrading for him and (albeit slightly amusing), degrading for me to listen to. I told him his casino was a joke, he should fire himself, and that I wished him "good day". As I was hanging up, he was mumbling something about speaking to the other owners of the casino and emailing me back.

    For what purpose, I cannot imagine.

    I suppose, if they shipped me like $100,000 - *maybe* I could call in a favour from Hazel to lose the charge back paperwork or something....*maybe*. But I kinda hope not....his desperation against this charge back was just as I suspected - they are likely already on SUPER THIN ice with whatever CC processor they use.

    I just hope my tiny 3k charge back will be the little push over the cliff. That's a nice thought, I think....for the 3+ hours they've wasted of my life.

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    LMAO.....what a treat...

    OG = "original gangsta'" I do believe...lmao...

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    In most cases a charge back is a very serious matter and usually a black mark against the player.

    But after not keeping the 5k deal, the CS laughing at you for wanting to cash out (after never having played) and then finding your account locked... Can't say I blame you.

    I Hope Mark will post a response from Rome Casino.

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    I have a tiny bit of experience with payment processors (owned 10% of a poker skin awhile back and although I was silent partner basically, I learned a lot about the complexities and high costs borne by gambling sites) - and whilst the vast majority of CC charge backs are simply nothing more than fraud - the overwhelming theft of my money here and the evidence and screenshots will likely SERIOUSLY hurt them with whatever company they are using to process CC's - who probably already charge them a ridiculously high % - but, whom upon receiving this package of info from MasterCard, could very well drop them as not worth the risk. Or raise their fees even higher to the point of pure pain.

    Our small skin was a very slick operation with very low (almost non-existent CC fraud) and, of course, we NEVER EVER behaved in a manner 1/100th this poorly with CC-using customers - and we were still paying through the nose on %.

    If we pulled something like this, our payment processor would have dropped us for sure - I'm certain of it. I can't begin to imagine how much this kind of attitude which results in JUSTIFIED charge backs will piss off whichever company Rome uses.

    Honestly, I just cannot see this casino lasting. It's run by incompetence, staffed by rude, unprofessional, lying staff - and just an overall mess from top to bottom. They'll fail - I can't see any future for them. I just can't.

    If I had money in there, I'd get it out now. Seriously. For what it's worth.

    It's kind of a pity, because seriously, that was some pretty slick software they were using. In all fairness, maybe elements of it were industry-beating.

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    Just to round out the package I guess, here is the email they sent me telling me my docs were all certified. I received no response to my reply for 12-16 hrs, at which point I tried to login and account was locked. For me, that's good game. Fail.

    --------------

    On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Juan Raabe Security <juan-security@crhost.net> wrote:

    Dear Jxxxxx



    This message is to confirm that we received the following documents:



    - Copy of your Pictured ID (passport)

    - Copy your Utility Bill

    - Copy of your MasterCard Statement



    Those documents are valid and already saved on your account file. Thanks for your concern.



    Best regards,



    Johnny

    Security Department Representative

    www.romecasino.com

    Toll free number: 1-888-258-0557

    Fax number: 1-703-991-8879

    e-mail: Security-RomeCasino@Power-Pay.eu


    Reply

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    Scooter: I guess this is their payment processor, although I haven't heard of them. Hope they double their % vig on these jokers. one time.

    http://www.powerpay.biz/

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